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No small shelf/ledge underneath, the floorboards were up when this photo was taken. It's the old airing cupboard for the hot water cylinder that was heated from their solid fuel back boiler.
The flue is clamped onto the top of the boiler with a special bracket that Ideal supply, it doesn't get screwed in other than at the clamp. Followed the instructions for the flue and gas installation to the letter.
There is a main lever valve built in underneath the boiler to turn on/off the incoming mains for servicing.
FCU for the boiler is on the right hand wall just out of sight. It was an old airing cupboard and I have reused the wiring for the immersion heater circuit.
PRV runs outside and is fitted with the manufacturers fitting on the end to direct any flow back onto the wall.
Condensate runs directly into the internal soil stack under the floorboards.
Vertical flue is properly clipped in the loft space, 2 clips for a 1.5m run.
Photo was taken prior to the job being completed, wiring has been tidied up and clipped with correct clips on the finished install, I forgot to take pictures of the boiler/flue at the end though. I wanted it out of the way whilst I was soldering the pipework under the floor of the airing cupboard and I only had T&E clips on me at the time. No biggy really though and doesn't affect the gas safety. The Gas Safe letter says they only get involved if there are gas safety issues and there aren't any, of that I am 100% certain.
The flue is clamped onto the top of the boiler with a special bracket that Ideal supply, it doesn't get screwed in other than at the clamp. Followed the instructions for the flue and gas installation to the letter.
There is a main lever valve built in underneath the boiler to turn on/off the incoming mains for servicing.
FCU for the boiler is on the right hand wall just out of sight. It was an old airing cupboard and I have reused the wiring for the immersion heater circuit.
PRV runs outside and is fitted with the manufacturers fitting on the end to direct any flow back onto the wall.
Condensate runs directly into the internal soil stack under the floorboards.
Vertical flue is properly clipped in the loft space, 2 clips for a 1.5m run.
Photo was taken prior to the job being completed, wiring has been tidied up and clipped with correct clips on the finished install, I forgot to take pictures of the boiler/flue at the end though. I wanted it out of the way whilst I was soldering the pipework under the floor of the airing cupboard and I only had T&E clips on me at the time. No biggy really though and doesn't affect the gas safety. The Gas Safe letter says they only get involved if there are gas safety issues and there aren't any, of that I am 100% certain.
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Honestly mate wouldn't worry about it .
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lame plumber
doesnt make any difference if you get the odd idiot slanging you off on checkatrade, you have the right to reply and make them look stupid, politely of course 🙂
i wouldnt worry at all about gas safe. but NEVER believe customers when they say "dont worry about the carpets", if you are in the habit of putting sheets down or roll&stroll then its only 5 minutes and shows the customer you care even if they asked you not to, and it stops any chew like this!!
Wonder he didn't want you to paint the walls where the old cylinder was, Did you insulate the pipe work when you had finished ?
But I would want the receipt for new carpets and a photo you can claim that against your tax if he doesn't get them fitted sue he in small claims court for your £1000, if he doesn't spend the full amount on carpets tell him you want the balance back !!
But I would want the receipt for new carpets and a photo you can claim that against your tax if he doesn't get them fitted sue he in small claims court for your £1000, if he doesn't spend the full amount on carpets tell him you want the balance back !!
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JCSPLUMBING
I've had to clean carpets before. Same issue as you had. Install looks good though mate
be very carefull about the amount of weight your placing on your reputationif you get a reputaion of being a soft touch for a grands worth of carpet on every job that will not help either
Gas safe deal with muppets like this all the time. They will spot that he is after money back etc so I wouldn't worry about it.
If you have loads of good feedback on Checkatrade then don't worry about that either as everybody knows you have 1 crackpot every now and then and will look over it if the rest are good.
And as missplumb said never ever believe a customer when they say don't worry about this or that as that usually means they want a new one and if they get chance you will be paying for it. It has happened to me before when I was an apprentice subbing to British Gas, they were not best pleased lol.
I wouldn't of gave them money to buy new though I would of paid a professional cleaner to go round and then taken photos after.
If you have loads of good feedback on Checkatrade then don't worry about that either as everybody knows you have 1 crackpot every now and then and will look over it if the rest are good.
And as missplumb said never ever believe a customer when they say don't worry about this or that as that usually means they want a new one and if they get chance you will be paying for it. It has happened to me before when I was an apprentice subbing to British Gas, they were not best pleased lol.
I wouldn't of gave them money to buy new though I would of paid a professional cleaner to go round and then taken photos after.
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lame plumber
I managed to spray water all over a kitchen today, dont ask............... customer turned up later on and commented how clean everything was, including the ceiling, had I made a mess drilling the flue and cleaned up ? 🙂🙂🙂 told her way before i left.
Forgot to close a service valve under a work top on a pipe i had just cut off, for some reason the old boiler had a separate cold feed for the system top up instead of taking it off the cold feed to the boiler. I had just wacked on a service valve to allow me to charge up the system as all my stop ends were in the van.
Forgot to close a service valve under a work top on a pipe i had just cut off, for some reason the old boiler had a separate cold feed for the system top up instead of taking it off the cold feed to the boiler. I had just wacked on a service valve to allow me to charge up the system as all my stop ends were in the van.
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newcastle phill
I cant see ceiling fire stopping there as per the building regs part B sec 7
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T
Toxic Ted
Learned that one a long time ago, i always have a 22 and 15 push fit cap in my pocket and feel naked without them!
Oh come on the gas gods that is BG don't bother with half of what they should and they charge 45k a boiler change.
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newcastle phill
Oh come on what - Regs are regs.
What you on about.
I dont make em, just abide by them.
You do what you do. I do what i do
What you on about.
I dont make em, just abide by them.
You do what you do. I do what i do
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You must AR or ID every boiler you come across then
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newcastle phill
Nope just pointing a potential issue out if he was to get inspected.
Last thing he needs is a defect on his 1st install while on probation.
Last thing he needs is a defect on his 1st install while on probation.
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whatever
To be honest with you I didn't put a fire stop in. I've never seen a single boiler fitted in all my time in Lincoln that has one or that is sealed. I guess it depends on the inspector. If he looks over the whole installation by the book he is going to find fault in my work. Is it safe though? I would certainly argue that it is. At the end of the day it's all very academic - if they find faults and he doesn't let me back in to fix them that's the end of it!
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newcastle phill
It doesnt make it right tho..
But I wouldnt presume all inspectors are gonna be so understanding on balance some will be fine and others could be a pain.
The best way is to install by the book from day 1.
I have lost count of how many i see without earthing near the meter outlet or incorrect condensate or leccy wires trailing gas pipes - but i don't think ill do the same and nor should others.
The regs clearly state should be firestopped but that doesnt look sealed anyway. but i dont want to upset anyone so ill shut up and keep my opinion to myself
But I wouldnt presume all inspectors are gonna be so understanding on balance some will be fine and others could be a pain.
The best way is to install by the book from day 1.
I have lost count of how many i see without earthing near the meter outlet or incorrect condensate or leccy wires trailing gas pipes - but i don't think ill do the same and nor should others.
The regs clearly state should be firestopped but that doesnt look sealed anyway. but i dont want to upset anyone so ill shut up and keep my opinion to myself
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