Permanent Pilot Light - Safety Issue

[Blake]

Phew, thought I'd upset you without realising 🙂

 

[leelister6]

Phew, thought I'd upset you without realising 🙂

Nah mate, I don't mind admitting it if I make a mistake........Hope ar lass int reading this!!

 

[kirkgas]

So in essence you're saying you'd be quite happy to go leave your home with the pilot lit on your fire with no safety device? What if it blows out, the room fills with gas (The explosive limit of NG is 5-15%) and you return when it's dark, open the door and switch the light on and get a spark? If I was in the engineers situation, I would have requested your permission to cap off the fire and issue an 'At risk' notice. If permission was refused, it would be noted on the service record which you would be requested to read and sign.

there is a fine line between giving the customer good technical advice and advising the fire could/should be renewed,BUT it is not AR it is fit for purpose as per design and can be left running if the customer wants it left on,

 

[kirkgas]

replying with caps cos i didn't realise i put capped off when i should have put turned off. Not offended at all, thanks for pointing it out.

haha stop shoutin its rude

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

i have to agree,just because the technologlys old and has no fsd does not make it dangerous,its working as designed you can not id or ar a appliance just because you think the safety designs not as safe as it could be,it was considered ok when designed ,so you adhere to mi,s

 

[diamondgas]

Permanent pilots are inefficient and that is all they will ever be! You will never be able to blow up a house, flat or otherwise unless it was devout of ventilation!

Well maybe a Wendy house! ............ REALLY SMALL ONE!

 

[leelister6]

Can I say 'bolloks' on this forum without being excluded?

well done so!

Permanent pilots are inefficient and that is all they will ever be! You will never be able to blow up a house, flat or otherwise unless it was devout of ventilation!

Well maybe a Wendy house! ............ REALLY SMALL ONE!

This sounds like a job for mythbusters!!

 

[kirkgas]

Permanent pilots are inefficient and that is all they will ever be! You will never be able to blow up a house, flat or otherwise unless it was devout of ventilation!

Well maybe a Wendy house! ............ REALLY SMALL ONE!

OMG my pal is called wendy and she has a house, i'm going round tomorrow to see if she has a gas fire

 

[kirkgas]

seen the news earlier. in america they are raving about shale gas, the clip says it is getting into the water supply and it showed people lighting the water as it came out the tap, looked excellant

 

[Puddle]

seen the news earlier. in america they are raving about shale gas, the clip says it is getting into the water supply and it showed people lighting the water as it came out the tap, looked excellant

natural ,cheap hot and cold running water !

Do the taps come with room ventilation requirements

 

[Toddyplumb]

There are real concern over shale gas , and there are inquiries under way . It is obtained by hydraulically fracturing (at about 145000psi ) the rock . The problem is the fluid used to fracture the rock contains hydrochloric acid, biocide and polycrylamide which is then in the water supply
There are test holes for this in the UK , Bowland and Preston

 

[stevetheplumber]

most gas fitters under the age of forty havent seen many appliances with pilots so it an understandable mistake which they should put right as to pilots being dangerous we used to have several standing pilots in our old kitchen the one on the grill saved us having to put the light on at night
oh what fun we would have when the shilling run out especialy getting the fridge one to light had to put a plate with hole in over the flue and wait till gas filled the flue tube then put a match to it

 

[bobgarden]

most gas fitters under the age of forty havent seen many appliances with pilots so it an understandable mistake which they should put right as to pilots being dangerous we used to have several standing pilots in our old kitchen the one on the grill saved us having to put the light on at night
oh what fun we would have when the shilling run out especialy getting the fridge one to light had to put a plate with hole in over the flue and wait till gas filled the flue tube then put a match to it

LOL showing some age there mate. Never seen a gas fridge...

Would scrap the fire and buy a new one. Of if you cant afford it right now i would remove/cap off and wait. I know it was ok when installed but too easy for somthing to happen if ask me.

 

[stevetheplumber]

ive still got a standing pilot on my vailant boiler no problems except outage in the wind

 

[mickie]

pilots should not blow out in the wind, get your boiler looked at

 

[mickie]

LOL showing some age there mate. Never seen a gas fridge...

Would scrap the fire and buy a new one. Of if you cant afford it right now i would remove/cap off and wait. I know it was ok when installed but too easy for somthing to happen if ask me.

its only ncs, ar or id is a different matter

 

[Chris-Newcastle]

Thanks to everyone for the advice.
The firm is still flatly refusing to re-attend and reconnect the fire so I've had to register a complaint with Gas Safe.
Does anyone know what powers Gas Safe has or could I end up having to go to court ?

 

[leelister6]

ive still got a standing pilot on my vailant boiler no problems except outage in the wind

But does it have an F.S.D?

 

[AWheating]

Thanks to everyone for the advice.
The firm is still flatly refusing to re-attend and reconnect the fire so I've had to register a complaint with Gas Safe.
Does anyone know what powers Gas Safe has or could I end up having to go to court ?

Im not sure how Gas Safe will deal with your complaint, it sounds to me like the engineers that attended your property do not fully understand how to deal with the situation and hopefully all gas safe needs to do is explain there mistake and it will get sorted.

 

[Girly Gas]

I agree with both parties. If a customer mentions that they smell gas, then this is always cause for concern and investigation. If they have detected a major leak from the fire which has no thermocouple, then surely they would have isolated the fire at the pilot and checked again ( im sumizing they did this) , did they recheck for leaks after the fire was disconnected? especially that you could smell gas near the hob to begin with. I hate turning appliances off, I never go away and leave anyone with no contact or no solutions, and 9 times out of ten Id go back to make sure, specially when a customer is distraught. Darryl is right, NCS on fire, I think they should return to double check. Traci