Plumber wanted

[KarlBrown]

Hi

I have two full heating systems and a solar thermal system to install in two weeks time. Will pay £160 a day but you will need your own transport, the job is in Lincoln. I'm looking for a plumber to help with the install. If interested contact me by pm.

Kind regards

Karl

 

[lame plumber]

way below my getting out of bed fee, took me a while and cost me a lot to learn my trade so you need to pay for my help and others who have the skills and ability. What youll get for that is a bloke with a spanner. Also need it bit more lead time Im afraid

 

[dancinplumba]

How many hours a day please 🙂

 

[lame plumber]

bout 3 for that money and he wants your van and tools

 

[Keefy]

Hi

I have two full heating systems and a solar thermal system to install in two weeks time. Will pay £160 a day but you will need your own transport, the job is in Lincoln. I'm looking for a plumber to help with the install. If interested contact me by pm.

Kind regards

Karl

What will your roll be in installing them? Will you also be getting £160?

 

[lame plumber]

oooooooooooooh he'll be paying the £10 -12 grand for the kit and get it all popped in for £1600 if he's lucky

 

[markfxy]

He's offering work which is way above what you'd get working for an agency it might come in handy for someone so give him a brake you ungrateful gits

 

[TBServices]

He's offering work which is way above what you'd get working for an agency it might come in handy for someone so give him a brake you ungrateful gits

Agreed. Try getting that money from anywhere else other than pricing up your own work.

 

[lame plumber]

Not ungrateful just annoyed that people dont value a plumbers skills anymore and are always trying to get someone to do it cheap. Can you survive on £160 a day I know my fixed costs and living expenses are higher than £160 a day, some people need a reality check!

If you are employed and this a nice little job on the side thats one thing, but if your like myself and 10000s of others it isnt realistic, labourers get £100 plus a day and havent any skills to speak of, its time some of you out there realised if you want to be working in 5 years time sensible charging is required of youll just be another shelf stacker in due course.

 

[TBServices]

Not ungrateful just annoyed that people dont value a plumbers skills anymore and are always trying to get someone to do it cheap. Can you survive on £160 a day I know my fixed costs and living expenses are higher than £160 a day, some people need a reality check!

Your living expenses are based on your earnings! A gas fitter who earns £80 a day slinging Worcester's on the wall for helplink or the council would think £160 was a good rate.

 

[lame plumber]

But a gas fitter working for a company doesnt have any fixed costs to cover, so working for £160 for a cheapskate means that all those self employed engineers are having to fight for a living and cant ever undercut someone who is doing it for pocket money, or do you not understand what being self employed means?

 

[Keefy]

He's offering work which is way above what you'd get working for an agency it might come in handy for someone so give him a brake you ungrateful gits

Although I like your comment I do think the replies are reasonable ones.

 

[markfxy]

I dont think the replies are reasonable if you do your own work then the rate is a bit low but for a subbie its the going rate the guy is offering work theres a lot on here that are struggling to find any work let alone at that rate. lameplumbers a fantasist who would like everyone to think he's earning top dollar but he seems to spend more time on here posting than working!

 

[TBServices]

But a gas fitter working for a company doesnt have any fixed costs to cover, so working for £160 for a cheapskate means that all those self employed engineers are having to fight for a living and cant ever undercut someone who is doing it for pocket money, or do you not understand what being self employed means?

He's asking for a HELPER on a couple of big installs. Not exactly stealing anyone's bread and butter.

If I was giving some down and outer a hand by offering some work alongside me, it certainly wouldn't be any more than £160 lol.

 

[REDSAW]

thats two outside tap installs down here!
there abouts any way

 

[Keefy]

thats two outside tap installs down here!

£15 a tap more than me.

 

[Dannypipe]

Just driven back from the father in laws who's in Lincoln.

Seems a fair day rate for a subby to me. Don't see why people are getting hot under the collar. Turn up, do the work, and hold your hand out at the end of the week to get paid. Sounds a lot easier than the crap I have to put up with to earn a living. (pricing, invoicing, and chasing payment to name just three of those chores).

 

[lame plumber]

I dont think the replies are reasonable if you do your own work then the rate is a bit low but for a subbie its the going rate the guy is offering work theres a lot on here that are struggling to find any work let alone at that rate. lameplumbers a fantasist who would like everyone to think he's earning top dollar but he seems to spend more time on here posting than working!

Not fanatasist a realist, the problem with some folks is they dont research the going rate properly and work for a pitance and do themselves or others no favours at all. Please dont try and tell me or others what you think I earn, as youe no idea. All I am trying to do is get some people to realise they are worth so much more than they realise. One of the reasons I can spend a bit of time on here is that I dont need to work all the hours god gives you, think about it!

 

[kay-jay]

Not fanatasist a realist, the problem with some folks is they dont research the going rate properly and work for a pitance and do themselves or others no favours at all. Please dont try and tell me or others what you think I earn, as youe no idea. All I am trying to do is get some people to realise they are worth so much more than they realise. One of the reasons I can spend a bit of time on here is that I dont need to work all the hours god gives you, think about it!

Aah you overcharge then...😀

 

[lame plumber]

i certainly dont work for peanuts but i am not as dear as pimlico, but i do base my rates on their scale of charges and take some off as Im not London based, not sure if thats overcharging.

 

[Killy Bing]

Eee im starting out, thats a blinding rate for me as my overheads are minimal.

 

[dontknowitall]

I accepted a job for £150 a day a year or two back. 10 days later I was handed £1,500 and had used about £50 of materials and about £75 of fuel so was over £1.400 better off. And well chuffed. I had no worries about how the job was going, whether the customer would pay me, whether the job would be finished in time. I was asked to complete a few things by Wednesday afternoon, this by Thursday, etc.

£160 does not sound much but if someone's got the job for you, done all the marketing, taking the flak from the customer, sorting out supplies, liaising with other trades etc, £160 is a very fair wage.

 

[Dannypipe]

I agree.

 

[lame plumber]

i give up, i paid a brickie £150 a day 10 years ago to convert my flats with me, arent you better than brickies?

 

[Dannypipe]

We're in a reccession LP, rates are going down not up.

My rates haven't changed in 3 years, yet materials get more expensive, as does food, and bills.

The hay days are behind us in my opinion, though I charge more than £160 a day, I think £800 a week for a subbie is pretty good. It's not like he said £110, or something daft.

 

[lame plumber]

if your going to survive you have to keep charging not dropping your rates, youll lose some but youll keep enough, old enough to have seen this before.

 

[Howsie]

You and only you will know how good you (your firm) are. Chase it when you need to but don't drop to compete with idiots.

 

[lame plumber]

You and only you will know how good you (your firm) are. Chase it when you need to but don't drop to compete with idiots.

there is sense out there somewhere🙂

 

[Keefy]

If people are happy to pay you at the higher end of the scale then you must be earning it.

 

[lame plumber]

If people are happy to pay you at the higher end of the scale then you must be earning it.

and you owe me £10 for everytime you use my copyrighted quotes🙂

 

[deandive]

This seems to be a one off job, not the regular workload you would need to consider doing the job for that rate. reading between the lines it seems the op may not have the paperwork to complete the jobs themselves, and need someone with the appropriate tickets, and if this is the case they are taking the mick. I think lame might be onto something with his pricing structure, but I cant see it working for me, I havent the balls to give it a try

 

[jase158]

before people shoot others about the price they are offering they should be honest about the amount they charge per day, there is far too many people shooting others down for the prices they offer but nobody will post what there day rate is....

 

[erpkid]

It can be a race to the bottom, we do not have to take part. However some of us are often in situations where the need to keep up with our obligations meaning in the absence of other work then occasionally we accept work at a lower rate. The OP's offer for hassle free cash to me after a long time self employed does not seem too generous but at times I would have bitten his hand off. I don't think we can be too pious on rates IMHO...signing off

 

[Howsie]

before people shoot others about the price they are offering they should be honest about the amount they charge per day, there is far too many people shooting others down for the prices they offer but nobody will post what there day rate is....

£300..

 

[erpkid]

before people shoot others about the price they are offering they should be honest about the amount they charge per day, there is far too many people shooting others down for the prices they offer but nobody will post what there day rate is....

300 plus vat per day me and my apprentice

 

[kay-jay]

before people shoot others about the price they are offering they should be honest about the amount they charge per day, there is far too many people shooting others down for the prices they offer but nobody will post what there day rate is....

200-300 per day for private works or if less than a day 40-45 per hour

 

[jase158]

£300..

I only charge £150 for plumbing (not boilers) and would bite his hand off, have done several quotes at £200 a day and heard nothing back

 

[Howsie]

300 plus vat per day me and my apprentice

Based where?

 

[erpkid]

300 plus vat per day me and my apprentice

Sorry my apprentice and I......

 

[deandive]

£200 but im still pretty green

 

[erpkid]

Based where?

South East - Near Cambridge

 

[kay-jay]

That said i regularly do subby work for for 130 (non gas) as it is regular(as often as i want it) and fills any holes in my schedule

 

[jase158]

300 plus vat per day me and my apprentice

is that each or between the 2 of you

 

[erpkid]

is that each or between the 2 of you

Both of us, but occasionally on a big job occasionally I actually get it right and do a 12 day job in 10 or even 8 ( ! ). We always quote fixed days on bathrooms and kitchens. We work very close to home generally so don't have huge overheads.

 

[SimonG]

To be brutal, I'm doing sfa for 160 a day.

 

[Killy Bing]

Look at it this way, its 160 quid more than sat at home doing nowt....

 

[Howsie]

South East - Near Cambridge

Will you travel to Surrey?

 

[erpkid]

Will you travel to Surrey?

8^) I get a nose bleed travelling outside of the village !

 

[Dannypipe]

I charge £200 and I'm not green, and I'm in the South East. Or £50 per hour, after 4 hours it's a flat day rate.

I do charge first hour minimum, of £50.00 if I'm there ten minutes, that's a bonus for me.

Have considered putting the rates up, but people squirm at those rates.

 

[Howsie]

I charge £200 and I'm not green, and I'm in the South East. Or £50 per hour, after 4 hours it's a flat day rate.

I do charge first hour minimum, of £50.00 if I'm there ten minutes, that's a bonus for me.

Have considered putting the rates up, but people squirm at those rates.

Sold!

 

[REDSAW]

over £200 & i am near newark @~@

if it was 6 months worth it may be worth it but not for 4 days!! and your name on it thats not a business rate its just a wage imo

 

[helpsy]

£35 ph or £200-£225 per day

 

[Mrs Tara Plumbi]

We could not afford to send any skilled man out for £160 per day and I would be furious if Mr TP did work at that rate - we'd be subsidizing the OP.
Having said that £160 per day is roughly what we pay subcontractors, OK the qualified GSR heating engineers do get a bit more - but not much.

I also think if OP is a GSR engineer who has found and organised the job and will be taking responsibility for it, then some guys might be happy to just turn up and do it.
But if he is a builder and he wants a GSR engineer to sort out materials, work out how to do the job, register the boiler etc then obviously £160 is too low.

 

[Rickster123]

Could you all stop please. I'm getting tempted to go back contracting again!

 

[TBServices]

I charge at least £240 per day, so they way I look at it, if you remove all the work related stress from my life, how can my time as a subby be worth more than £160? That hardest part of the job, isn't the work.

£160 per day still equates to £3200 a month, or just over £2500 after tax. £38,000 a year based on 48 weeks.

 

[CXR100]

£160 a day seems a nice amount to me! i work doing maintanance plumbing! only on 22k a year + company van and phone , i think its a good wage for a 21 yr old around where we live ( 3 years a go i was only getting paid £50 a week as an apprenticce , onwards and upwards ..... hopefully!!)

 

[lame plumber]

I charge at least £240 per day, so they way I look at it, if you remove all the work related stress from my life, how can my time as a subby be worth more than £160? That hardest part of the job, isn't the work.

£160 per day still equates to £3200 a month, or just over £2500 after tax. £38,000 a year based on 48 weeks.

But it doesnt account for the fact you dont work every day, have to take holidays and time off sick, need to do quotes and planning etc, time off doing training and gas exams etc which ultimately severely affects your actual takehome in the bank.

My callouts are £75 for first hour then 35 per hour normal working hours (8-4) outside those times the skys the limit within reason and wends are more costly thereafter, quotes for heating systems inc 20% on parts supplied would mean I aim to get around £350 per day net.

just looked a pimlico rates again, ots time to review my rates as i last did them 18,months back, if they can charge £180 for service and LLC my rate needs to go up. http://www.pimlicoplumbers.com/company-charges

 

[hammers4spanner]

im in south hams and plumbs around here are working for £100 a day gas fitters £150 to £200 a day and you would still get undercut at that.
The OP is offering £160 and he would have them queing at the door around here

 

[Mrs Tara Plumbi]

just looked a pimlico rates again, ots time to review my rates as i last did them 18,months back, if they can charge £180 for service and LLC my rate needs to go up. Pimlico Plumbers | Company Charges | 'Transparent & Competitive Rates | Value for Money.'

Can you get London Rates in the Exmoor area?

 

[hammers4spanner]

To be fair reading this post and how the thread has gone i dont think anyone would advertise on here again quite embarrassing

 

[hammers4spanner]

Can you get London Rates in the Exmoor area?

i live in devon and cornwall/devon rates are relative

 

[Destroyer2813]

Can you get London Rates in the Exmoor area?

You can in la la Lame land

 

[hammers4spanner]

If your getting over £200 a day down southwest then you are lucky and have a good cust base however it never takes much to get undercut

 

[lame plumber]

You can in la la Lame land

if your good enough you can do anything, got to remember 1/2 of london moves to Woolacombe in the summer in their daft range rover evoques so thet bring their wallets with them, it wouldd be daft not to request the same rates as they pay in the smoke wouldnt it, the nothing lal la about lame, just good business accumen, pity some of you dont try it and learn

re being undercut, of course that happens but 70% of the time if you charge £110 for a range service no parts then youll get the job, the locals who know someone charging £30 will use that guy and quite often I'll be called back by them when he hasnt turned up, or its not working as he hasnt changed the oil filter such that I get the work 6 months later and go on to keep that customer. Just because the national average for wages in devon is low doesnt mean you have to be cheap.

 

[erpkid]

if your god enough you can do anything, got to remember 1/2 of london moves to Woolacombe in the summer in their daft range rover evoques so thet bring their wallets with them, it wouldd be daft not to request the same rates as they pay in the smoke wouldnt it, the nothing lal la about lame, just good business accumen, pity some of you dont try it and learn

I think it is your piety they appreciate :wings:

 

[hammers4spanner]

the problem with the part of devon where i live is the sheer amount of plumbs and gas fitters completely flooded where i am so you would struggle to get a higher rate .
I have said before on here that i know guys quite happy to do boiler swaps for about £120 ish and because of this custs feel ripped off at the £200 mark.
I canny be ursed with boiler changes unless its contract as private ones are just hassle gimme a decent commercial install please

 

[SimonG]

To be fair reading this post and how the thread has gone i dont think anyone would advertise on here again quite embarrassing

I don't see why not, my comment was honest. I ain't working for 160.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Just saying as the op's price has been slated they are probably thinking why bother lol

 

[Destroyer2813]

if your god enough you can do anything, got to remember 1/2 of london moves to Woolacombe in the summer in their daft range rover evoques so thet bring their wallets with them, it wouldd be daft not to request the same rates as they pay in the smoke wouldnt it, the nothing lal la about lame, just good business accumen, pity some of you dont try it and learn

re being undercut, of course that happens but 70% of the time if you charge £110 for a range service no parts then youll get the job, the locals who know someone charging £30 will use that guy and quite often I'll be called back by them when he hasnt turned up, or its not working as he hasnt changed the oil filter such that I get the work 6 months later and go on to keep that customer. Just because the national average for wages in devon is low doesnt mean you have to be cheap.

So you work 6 months a year then thats why u have so much time to be on here during the day :smartass2:

 

[lame plumber]

So you work 6 months a year then thats why u have so much time to be on here during the day :smartass2:

yep, doesnt everyone?

 

[Keefy]

I class coming on the forums as work.

 

[erpkid]

I class coming on the forums as work.

Same here...I have been on the forum whilst drinking beer and burning burgers...and the wife reckons I can't multi-task !

 

[Killy Bing]

Im going to put my neck on the block here

i would be happy to take this up if i was within a reasonable distance.

providing it was set working hours, their responsibility and they supplied all the materials.

 

[markfxy]

la la lame seems to think pricing yourself out of the market is good business acumen, He can't get a full years work and think's we should all do the same!! definitely la la

 

[Dannypipe]

I think it's been an interesting (if not diverted) thread. At least some people have been candid and shown their hand regarding what they charge/earn.

Looks like I need to put my rates up!!

 

[mfgs]

If you can get enough work at a high price then you wont have to work as many days, great if you can get the work and fair play to anyone who is doing that. That strategy wont work for everyone, I know a guy who does one or two boiler changes a week and earns a fortune doing so. He does a good job and gets recommendations even though he is very expensive, he only ever works 2-4 days a week.

£160 a day isn't great money, but if you are struggling for work then its guaranteed money in the bank for a couple of weeks which can be very handy especially in summer when the work is a bit slower.

 

[AWheating]

its more than i get subbying on a day rate for most local firms, but then theres a plumber in every street around my parts.

 

[hammers4spanner]

its more than i get subbying on a day rate for most local firms, but then theres a plumber in every street around my parts.

same around my way £160 a day is good wedge round my stomping ground

 

[lame plumber]

Just saying as the op's price has been slated they are probably thinking why bother lol

some goods come out of it then

 

[tomplumb83]

Whilst I agree with lame plumbers general idea I also think £160 a day in Lincoln for sub contracting is actually more than the average. The work advertised is sub contracting and is for somebody whos struggling for work.
I used to work for 120 a day but was without my gas. We'd all like to be earning 80k a year but then if it was that easy, literally everybody would be doing it as opposed to one plumber living on every street!

 

[lame plumber]

seem to have got a fewof u thinking and if you gain out of this so much the better, those that think Im la la will have to put up with shelf stacking when its all to late

 

[TerryWaite]

A few harsh comments here, I am on the side of not dropping your rates, and charging what you're worth, the rate quoted in the OP was fairly decent, it wasn't peanuts, and to re-iterate what has already been said to just turn up, graft, and go home, not too bad.

I work in North Wales and North West England, and I aim to earn £200 a day for gas work, £100-£150 for plumbing work.

I have worked for as much as £300 and as low as £50 a day. If I am busy I charge what I am worth, and don't worry about losing the job to somebody else.

If I have nothing on, I can either a) bite my tongue and do the job for slightly less or b) lose the job and get into financial trouble. In this case I choose a). Work for slightly less.

I cannot stand people who use the recession to abuse workers. What has happened to workers rights nowadays? They seem to have gone completely out of the window and nobody bats an eyelid. The country is run by reptilian lizards from the lower 4th dimension!

 

[pipefitter]

I think that everyone has different circumstances & what one person needs to earn is different from the next ...I personally agree with lame on this,as at the moment I have lots of work I'm earning well & don't need to chase .....however I know very well that next year could be another story & at the end of the day I need to put food on the table so then £160 might look attractive

 

[Plumb08]

The local council lads round here get £11.96 plus incentive. I know some of you can earn more but £160 a day to somebody will be a god send.

 

[Keefy]

What does the JIB say a plumber should be paid?

 

[Avatar]

Where is the OP?

They legged it 50 posts ago!!

Seriously these post should be locked as soon and no one allowed to reply if this is what they end up like . . .

 

[fogarty]

I think it's a very interesting thread. If you can charge top whack and stay busy then good luck to you as long as your not ripping people off and your charges are clear from the start. I take home less than £60 a day and I work hard for that. My boss is a multi millionaire and doing very nicely thank you.

 

[REDSAW]

thats taking the biscuit!!

 

[Rickster123]

I think it's a very interesting thread. If you can charge top whack and stay busy then good luck to you as long as your not ripping people off and your charges are clear from the start. I take home less than £60 a day and I work hard for that. My boss is a multi millionaire and doing very nicely thank you.

What work are you doing for that foggy if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Gray0689]

I think it's a very interesting thread. If you can charge top whack and stay busy then good luck to you as long as your not ripping people off and your charges are clear from the start. I take home less than £60 a day and I work hard for that. My boss is a multi millionaire and doing very nicely thank you.

Not many multi millionaire plumbers

 

[Dannypipe]

Not many single millionaire plumbers either!

 

[fogarty]

What work are you doing for that foggy if you don't mind me asking?

Don't mind at all. I'm a biscuit maker, been trying to get a job in plumbing for quite a while now.:mad2:

 

[lame plumber]

Not many single millionaire plumbers either![/QU

just finished a little job and this is them delivering the payment🙂 Massive Money Transfer: Police Motorcycles Escort Bank Vehicles - YouTube

 

[ashwilson]

Still looking karl?