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the client has some blame in it, you pay peanuts you get monkeys as they say.

standards on most new builds have always been poor and always will be really. You can only worry about your own work tbh. the price some companies put in for new build work is crazy. 2-4 % profit margin is very typical especially for national builders. Even before the credit crunch you would see as low as 7%.

30 years or so ago, the standards on new builds was of a pretty high standard :hurray:

things changed though in the early eighties when they brought in the 714 etc

the standards have been decreasing slowly ever since, probably at an all time low at the moment.
 
Johnny,

That is only three of us who think things are bad, hell that's not good news, the others must think it's OK ,or don't know or don't care.

I look at it rather simplistically, if you have low enough esteem to install something like this when its on show, what will you do when it's not one show, AW thinks it's nothing to do with esteem, its money, I think he may be right.

Welcome to the real World Tony and smell the putty, what's putty dad, tell you when you are a bit older lad!!!
 
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