What about converting OV to combi?
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What about converting OV to combi?
Half a day, no problem.. then i'll do a nifty boiler change on the way home too
Yes, but your old, slow and lazy.
Its all well and good if you can quote 1k labour but when you know unless you get the job you will sit on your arse doing nothing its better to quote half that and guarantee yourself some income!
Plus if customer has 3k to spend he gets 4 quotes yours leaves custoemr with 500 spare bob more often than not he will spend at least a chunk of that 500 on an extra i.e replace rads or trv or whatever.
Plus if customer has 3k to spend he gets 4 quotes yours leaves custoemr with 500 spare bob more often than not he will spend at least a chunk of that 500 on an extra i.e replace rads or trv or whatever.
Very true, but most of my installs are recommends, so Mrs Jones has hers done for £2750, and Mrs blogs has hers done for the same price, so everyone is happy.
With regards to sitting on my arse, I have quoted on 31 boiler changes and got 30 of them, so not really an issue for me.
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lame plumber
you get my sense of humour then Leo, just pointing out to folk that doing things at a slower pace and taking a bit longer is less stressful and you'll live longer. I bet I do less hours and earn as much as a lot of people working all hours, but its my choice to do so, so go pick your toys up and chill out folks 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂.
If I am being accused of overpricing, reconsider your opinion on that one, I like to say I am reassuringly expensive (and now even elitist), it means I will always be happy to pop back , show peeps how to use the system and do any small changes required to the system setup, afte rall, I have been paid well and consider that these recalls that occur have already been paid for. There are more than one way to skin a cat, mine is different to the norm it would seem.
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lame plumber
You forget, if you earn more per job, you can afford to sit around on your arse doing nothing
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lame plumber
I'd rather build a rolls than a trabant any day.
I beleive in getting as much as I can, but ! Your prices are dictated by some level by your competition.
Who ever your customers think are you're equivalent, as Mercedes Benz versus Bmw.
There are guys round here that do it silly cheap, and appear to fit them without stepping over the threshold.
I luckily manage to get roughly the same prices as e local three man firm that's vat registered. If I could charge more I would, but I know what my market will take.
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lame plumber
you hit the nail on the head there, it's the market you target that allows you to price accordingly. I admit I endeavour to hit the bmw/merc owners rather than bus users. I am not saying folks with less money are any worse to work for, its more likely that my market is more likely to moan and complain. It can back fire as a lot of my Aga folk have massive, inherited piles but bugger all in their wallets, and you have to prize out the notes for them occasionally 🙂
They are priced accordingly, got one to do next month that really didn't want to do.
Boiler relocating to airing cupboard from kitchen, with pita flue run and new gas run.
Went in silly high at £5250 and they wanted me to do it, as I was not the dearest
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lame plumber
got it wrong then 🙂 you'll be ****ed when you bill them and find out you were a grand cheaper, dont you hate it when a customer says they were expecting a bigger bill............... mind you not a bad price for a swap like that.
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Rickster123
Gimme a job mate!
Anytime Adam, I can pimp you out and then sit on my arse at home watching Netflix lol
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lame plumber
oh dear, cheap end of the market looking for work now..............
you know I don't mean it 🙂
Which proves my point regarding pricing against competitors.
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Rickster123
In the space of two posts I'm now looking like a cheap *****!
I'd provide consumables!
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lame plumber
funny thing though is I tend to get a lot of work even though my quotes are higher than the competition, how do you explain that leo? I think I know why, but what is your opinion?
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Rickster123
They feel sorry for you?
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lame plumber
naw naw naw, back in your box cheapie, I was going to say they like my work ethic, clean n tidy van and they see me as a reliable, reassuringly expensive tradesman.
Your competition consist of mainly retards? Or it's your winning personality.
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lame plumber
I think my competition is mainly well trained folk who know their stuff, so it must be the second reason 🙂
Ive seen many people try to do boiler swaps in a day, some do great jobs but a lot lash it in and cut corners.
If you can get away with doing it over 2 or 3 days and still get a good wedge per day out of it then why not I don't blame anybody that does that in a few years I hope to work less for more when I have a reputation that allows it.
I myself take 1.5 days to do a combi swap I have the boiler up and running by the end of day 1 and then go back and flush and snag on day 2. I find this works for me as I don't have to be in the merchant for smack on 7:30 and work my rear off all day. I used to do 1 day combi swaps and I have done some since but they are a pain and I would rather take my time and know I get it right.
If you can get away with doing it over 2 or 3 days and still get a good wedge per day out of it then why not I don't blame anybody that does that in a few years I hope to work less for more when I have a reputation that allows it.
I myself take 1.5 days to do a combi swap I have the boiler up and running by the end of day 1 and then go back and flush and snag on day 2. I find this works for me as I don't have to be in the merchant for smack on 7:30 and work my rear off all day. I used to do 1 day combi swaps and I have done some since but they are a pain and I would rather take my time and know I get it right.
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Rickster123
Or maybe everyone else is even more expensive and you aren't as pricey as you think?
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lame plumber
oh ****, I thought we had put this to bed and you go and stir things up.............................
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lame plumber
I do rays annual survey and i gather i am definitely not at the lower median or what ever
If that was on the books I wouldnt turn my nose up at combi swaps all the time. The conversion though for an extra £40 is a joke.
Some people's greed never ceases to amaze me! Let me guess they charge their customer a grand labour for the swap and keep more than 80% of that to themselves? The vermin even got the cheek to post on here!
Spot on mate.
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lame plumber
bit out of my league, 80 miles, I wouldnt be there till 1100, 🙂
I charge my prices to reflect my overheads. I have a secretary to pay wages too each month. Another gas registered engineer to pay wages to each month. A business premises to pay rent and business rates each month plus all the other things that's are associated with running a business which keeps people employed. I bet there are not many gas engineers on here that have £80,000 per year overheads before they draw a wage them selves
You have just said about virtually every company in the country.
To be quite honest though the price for a combi swap if paye then it's actually a good wage. If it's subbing then it's poor.
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lame plumber
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