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Don't worry you deserve a night off Ray suck suck pls don't throw me out:aureola:
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Sound advice. No one will think any less of you.
Except me......
Much love to Mrs S.
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Right, apologies for the late start.
So, shall we kick some one out? Or shall we decide its too late to start all the teasing, and kick two out tomorrow instead?
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Mrs S is tucked up in bed, with hot water bottle etc.
I have 10 minutes wind down time. Time enough (and to spare) to crush the hopes of a Chalked. Or indeed an Anz. Or a hammers, ch4 or solutions.
Oh, how the fragile yachts of their hopes blow around the rocky harbour of their own destruction...
Sorry - was that a bit too poetic?
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As a side issue, I note that this thread now has more than four thousand, two hundred views.
The other day, we discussed the whole idea of only four moving parts. Was it a good thing? The consensus seemed to be that whilst it might be a bit of a marketing gimmick, generally speaking, less to go wrong could be an advantage.
What about the inclusion of a RF programmable stat ? Combis have come with clocks for years, and more recently manufacturers have offered programmable stats as optional extras, but this is the first that I can recall where the honeywell base station is included in the boiler case, and the stat part is thrown in FOC. Thats about £100 worth of freebie?
Is it something that you guys would value?
The other day, we discussed the whole idea of only four moving parts. Was it a good thing? The consensus seemed to be that whilst it might be a bit of a marketing gimmick, generally speaking, less to go wrong could be an advantage.
What about the inclusion of a RF programmable stat ? Combis have come with clocks for years, and more recently manufacturers have offered programmable stats as optional extras, but this is the first that I can recall where the honeywell base station is included in the boiler case, and the stat part is thrown in FOC. Thats about £100 worth of freebie?
Is it something that you guys would value?
honestly no
I find customers hate room stats over complicated for them most I do happy just to have an on off switch
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A room thermostat must be fitted to all installations.
I agree that trv'is offer greater room control and programable stats can be a pain to set. But you do need one as a interlink for boiler cycling.
doesn't stop customers putting them in their handbags tho and taking them out on daytrips
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Yes the wireless stat particularly a relatively solid brand (honeywell) being included is a big plus. Particularly as I understand the base is capable of operating with several different models of prog stat, although not simultaneously of course.
But for me the fundamental plus has got to be the copper Heat exchanger path ways. It's potentially the perfect hex for the majority of uk retro fits as so much less susceptable to blocking with muck, which shouldn't be present after a pro install, but sooner or later is.
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I'm wondering how long before they sniff for Phone-Wifi / PIR detectors , to see if some ones home , before pre--heating Combi Hot-Water !
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that is a massive point I have over looked. I am a Honeywell man normally 927 so the fact it's build it will not only will it save you money it will save time no external wires. But the big plus that has been missed by everyone is that because its on the boiler case that will be covered in the 10 year warranty so it's a win win win
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Seems like a good idea, I normally fit the rf receiver beneath the boiler which can look a little untidy at times, I only fit the Worcester ones if asked as TBH I think they are too expensive for a lot of people.
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i aint going nowhere got my foot wedge in pack of frozen peas due to plantar fasilitis so will be nosing in on my in or out progress
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I can confirm that only one of the final two will have a name beginning with C
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Factoid of the day.
Solutions real first name ends with an "m"
Hammers real first name ends with an "m"
Of the two finalists, only one of their first names ends with an "m"
I wonder if either of the other two have names ending in "m". Actually, I don't wonder, because I know.
Heh heh
Solutions real first name ends with an "m"
Hammers real first name ends with an "m"
Of the two finalists, only one of their first names ends with an "m"
I wonder if either of the other two have names ending in "m". Actually, I don't wonder, because I know.
Heh heh
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Now, before we get all excited about kicking people out, lets reflect on the 10 year warranty enjoyed by the Intergas ECO-RF range from 1st July.
Obviously there are terms and conditions, and I think we all wonder exactly what percent of boilers get serviced annually every year for the first 10 years of life (apart from social housing).
So - is there a huge advantage to having 10 years instead of the 7 years enjoyed by the more common HRE range?
And how do you guys feel about being required to go on a course to access those bigger warranties? Does that work for you?
Obviously there are terms and conditions, and I think we all wonder exactly what percent of boilers get serviced annually every year for the first 10 years of life (apart from social housing).
So - is there a huge advantage to having 10 years instead of the 7 years enjoyed by the more common HRE range?
And how do you guys feel about being required to go on a course to access those bigger warranties? Does that work for you?
Maybe so but you had time and cunning on your side to plan whilst the boys were eager for a freebie so I guess any deep thinking or trying to second guess you was expecting too much.
How long did you have to plan out of interest?
How long did you have to plan out of interest?
Then I find that quite worrying that you remembered that person for however long it was 12 months or 2yrs.
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To answer your question about the 7/10 year warrantee. I hate them. They are good for selling boilers, but not good for the installer when after 9 years and 6 months, the customer rings up and says the boiler has stopped working and it's under guarantee. ( but has never been serviced since new) who do they call? Ghostbusters? No the installer.
To answer your question about the 7/10 year warrantee. I hate them. They are good for selling boilers, but not good for the installer when after 9 years and 6 months, the customer rings up and says the boiler has stopped working and it's under guarantee. ( but has never been serviced since new) who do they call? Ghostbusters? No the installer.
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Chalked that's tuff cheese for the customer. I got a email earlier that intergas will now be emailing and sending out reminders with your price of the service which means it's good for you.
I often wonder if long warranties will actually be honoured by the manufacturers at the later stages of the boilers lifespan.I also would say probably only half of customers get the boiler serviced yearly to continue with the warranty . The other half ask for a service after five years when an issue arises expecting you to back date it.
Warranty's for me are simply a means for me to sell a boiler it really doesn't matter to me beyond that what they do or don't honour as I make it clear to the customer that a warranty is like most insurance assume its worthless and covers nothing and you will be pleasantly surprised if it in fact does cover you in the event of a part failure. I do wish however that boiler warranty's were essentially a return to base for refund style parts replacement scheme that any engineer could make use of providing the affected boiler was within warranty. Perhaps if you agreed with the manufacturer a set rate that you would charge the customer for a warranty repair and they provide the replacement part for free as long as the faulty part is returned. And the customer just applied for the repair charge as a rebate from the manufacturer.
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Beer time I think.
Except not for me. I've voluntarily taken a week off.
Going for a messy one tomorrow.
Except not for me. I've voluntarily taken a week off.
Going for a messy one tomorrow.
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Ah, I remember now. I was just about to eliminate Chalked. Sorry mate, not this time.
Translation > swmbo has applied limits after last weeks brush with the plant pot at 3am. lol
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Three men in a boat.......no wait that's not right I meen three eager plumbers
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Nope.
Just two men in the boat now.
Hammers just went overboard. Sorry hammers.
Just solutions and ch4 left now.
No pressure.
Think you were on the right lines Ch4.
Three plumbers up the swannie with no control over their destiny which is soley in the hands of the evil minded shopkeeper.
Hope you haven`t upset him recently, last time we spoke he threatened to push me back under with a pole given the chance!
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