Whats the best boiler

[topdog]

Hello everyone,
It has been some time since my last thread.
Question
Whats the best boiler to fit for your money£££ and also for little money, that offer reliability and value for money.

Topdog

 

[Jimbob]

Ideal Logic plus for me.

 

[Meady]

As above, fitted a ideal logic+30 combi boiler the other day, really good piece of kit and £400 cheaper than the equivalent Worcester bosch.

 

[Leo21]

Baxi duo tec, as long as you can put up with poor after service. Never fitted the ideal logic, but heard good things.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Obviously Intergas for top of the range. Budget Combi Ideal Independent, Budget heat only Main HE.

 

[Howsie]

Haven't come across anything better than ATAG IMHO.

 

[Leo21]

Haven't come across anything better than ATAG IMHO.

Dont your merchants stock any thing else then?:77:

 

[TBServices]

Logic plus is great value for money. Can't bring myself to fit a dirty, leaky baxi.

 

[Ermintrude]

Baxi duo tec, as long as you can put up with poor after service. Never fitted the ideal logic, but heard good things.

Poor after service? Heat team out perform all others all if the time up here . Wb can take over a week for no heating no hot water fault heat team same day.

 

[Leo21]

Poor after service? Heat team out perform all others all if the time up here . Wb can take over a week for no heating no hot water fault heat team same day.

Ive heard differing reports. Vaillants back up is ace, same day most often. That's if you need them, which isn't very often.

 

[Ermintrude]

Ive heard differing reports. Vaillants back up is ace, same day most often. That's if you need them, which isn't very often.

We only fit Baxi ideal and valiant. If you want wb or some other pap jog on. Baxi leaky horrible boilers? You not thinking of greenstar?

 

[Howsie]

Dont your merchants stock any thing else then?:77:

They don't stock them and it's the only thing I don't buy from them.

 

[Ermintrude]

This is a lovely boiler !

 

[Chalked]

You need to look at more than just cost. If you look at it as a cost of how long it lasts and stays reliable you will not beat a vaillant. The only boiler I would fit in my house.

 

[tamz]

I'd fit anything in mine. Couldn't care less what it is as long as i get it for free :wink:

 

[Leo21]

Sometimes a crystall ball is required. I've recently seen le blancs and old ferrolis still running , who knew !

 

[Kewat66]

Any opinions on the Remeha Advanta?

 

[Leo21]

I'd fit anything in mine. Couldn't care less what it is as long as i get it for free :wink:

Not me, can't think of anything worse than my own boiler quitting, and having to fix it after work or at the weekend. And the absolute worse thing would be my Mrs nagging the life out of me!

 

[Killy Bing]

You need to look at more than just cost. If you look at it as a cost of how long it lasts and stays reliable you will not beat a vaillant. The only boiler I would fit in my house.

Needs another 100kg+ to be any good 😉

 

[tamz]

Sometimes a crystall ball is required. I've recently seen le blancs and old ferrolis still running , who knew !

The Modena's were actually ok the rest were junk.

 

[Leo21]

The Modena's were actually ok the rest were junk.

The really old one,massive square thing. At least twenty years old.

 

[tamz]

Not me, can't think of anything worse than my own boiler quitting, and having to fix it after work or at the weekend. And the absolute worse thing would be my Mrs nagging the life out of me!

I wouldn't dream of fixing it. If it goes wrong it gets dragged off the wall and scrapped :lol:

 

[tamz]

The really old one,massive square thing. At least twenty years old.

The one with the grey plastic flap. Nothing in them to go wrong.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Just as well you will never all agree.

 

[lame plumber]

wouldnt fit another remeha avanta, to much grief fm some I have! intergas are the only thing for me

 

[tamz]

Are you on a commission Jon :lol:

 

[Killy Bing]

Just as well you will never all agree.

We all agree that merchants should offer a 10 year warrenty...........

 

[Ray Stafford]

We all agree that merchants should offer a 10 year warrenty...........

Nah - pretty soon someone would be boasting about their 11 yr upgrade, and someone else would be moaning that long warranties meant less replacement work.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

baxi duotec HEA if you live in wales aftercare's second to none

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

This is a lovely boiler !

looks like a duotec HEA inside so will be a good one

 

[lame plumber]

Are you on a commission Jon :lol:

nope, just found something I really like 🙂

 

[Leo21]

Nah - pretty soon someone would be boasting about their 11 yr upgrade, and someone else would be moaning that long warranties meant less replacement work.

I love these long warranties, servicings easy work. You know how long they'll take, and custs have no choice to keep there warranty. Never had so much servicing.

 

[Leo21]

nope, just found something I really like 🙂

Why haven't they got a decent warranty?

 

[lame plumber]

5 years is reasonable, I suspect theyll get longer as they do in europe idc.

 

[solutions]

Obviously Intergas for top of the range. Budget Combi Ideal Independent, Budget heat only Main HE.

Have been reading about the intergas in various posts always with high regard. Never fitted one. Are they that good Mike? Why? Always liked the Vaillant's that I fit if I can.

 

[Mike Jackson]

it's the 22mm waterways and no secondary heat exchanger that do it for me.

 

[Ermintrude]

How easy is it to replace primary hex when scaled up?

 

[ih1]

Whats the hw flow rate like on the intergas

 

[Leo21]

How easy is it to replace primary hex when scaled up?

The rep who's also an engineer says you can de scale them. It's a rough looking bit of kit though, and the programmers pants.

 

[lame plumber]

hex in coppper tube so no issues with a descale. Re the programmer, i have yet to find a customer who can under stand anything more than on off twice a day, so why put in a multiple switching day to day programmer anyhow. How can a bit of rectangular plastic case look rough, unless boiler spotting is your hobby!

 

[Leo21]

I like them, but they look alarmingly like an old ariston. And the timers more difficult to use than most.

 

[Nostrum]

Wow you really are a fan, what did your misses say when she came home to find all that on the kitchen wall?

This is a lovely boiler !

 

[Ermintrude]

Ohh that's going to make some money can I have an R8 now?

 

[Leo21]

Ohh that's going to make some money can I have an R8 now?

More like a c5.

 

[Ermintrude]

More like a c5.

What's a c5 when it's at home. Know a car that sounds similar sl500?

 

[Mrs Tara Plumbi]

Any opinions on the Remeha Advanta?

We have one in our house.
Yes there were problems with them a few years ago but I think it was identified and sorted - I'm not technical I can't tell you more.
I wouldn't rule out having one of these again - as they are one of the many brands covered by Heateam that is a good thing.

 

[Ermintrude]

But your poor hubby has to service and work on it, so cramped. Get a duo tec they are only few £££ more and there is loads if room inside and easy to work on and parts are off the shelf. Only thing is with all Baxi boiler , DHW sensor washer will swell and weep after 5 years. Replace it with a Vokera aluminium one never leaks.

 

[Leo21]

What's a c5 when it's at home. Know a car that sounds similar sl500?

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[Ermintrude]

Ahhhhh! Not bad motor probably going to new a minibus soon tho as mrs wants a football team not 2.1

 

[Anton]

Star Wars Boiler.
"grief fm some I have!"..................... :yesnod::yesnod::yesnod:

The failure is strong with this one (remeha avanta)

 

[Kewat66]

Will there ever be a consensus on which is the best boiler? There appears to many variables as to what is best? What is best for customer? What is best to fit? Price for spares? After sales back up? Ease of replacing components and how they are positioned in the boiler. Does anyone know of a boiler that includes gas engineers in the design process?

 

[Ermintrude]

Will there ever be a consensus on which is the best boiler? There appears to many variables as to what is best? What is best for customer? What is best to fit? Price for spares? After sales back up? Ease of replacing components and how they are positioned in the boiler. Does anyone know of a boiler that includes gas engineers in the design process?

ACV . All products are tested and developed by installers.

Boiler thing is easy. Everyone gets one vote and should like the relevant one or add brand to thread.

 

[Ermintrude]

Baxi duo he

 

[Ermintrude]

Ideal logic plus

 

[Ermintrude]

Worcester bosh

 

[Ermintrude]

Intergas

 

[Ermintrude]

Valliant

 

[Killy Bing]

Warmflow......

 

[LPC]

There's some crazy answers in here and I wonder what some of you are smoking.

To install for my beloved customers: Worcester Bosch CDi Classic

For my own house: Vailliant Ecotec Plus

I very much lean against installing anything else, because they're all crap.

 

[tamz]

Ferrari in red

 

[tamz]

Does the best boiler have to be current?

Ideal E type or Vulcan continental

 

[Ermintrude]

E type was ok preferred Mexico. Current boilers tho grandad

 

[Dotty]

Buderus GB162/100

In white...

Wall hung.....






There are times I hate me...........

 

[tamz]

I'm glad someone likes the older boiler 😉

Many a good tune has been played on an old fiddle Simon :lol:

 

[lame plumber]

I gather fm my car mechanic that a new car will only last 7 years or so cos when the computers all start to fail its not cost effective to replace them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

There's some crazy answers in here and I wonder what some of you are smoking.

To install for my beloved customers: Worcester Bosch CDi Classic

For my own house: Vailliant Ecotec Plus

I very much lean against installing anything else, because they're all crap.

that says two things to me A,Worcester are so good i wont put one in my house B,i dont repair them for a living

 

[Leo21]

None, I want to live in a warm country! And wear a mankini all the time like ap.

 

[tamz]

None, I want to live in a warm country! And wear a mankini all the time like ap.

Beer señor

 

[Leo21]

Beer señor
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Gratefully accepted Tamz.

 

[TBServices]

that says two things to me A,Worcester are so good i wont put one in my house B,i dont repair them for a living

Haha. Yeah he'd rather have a rubber hoses Vaillant.

 

[LPC]

that says two things to me A,Worcester are so good i wont put one in my house B,i dont repair them for a living

I do repair them, they're fine apart from the diverter on the 24CDi which I won't touch.

Fitted loads of Worcesters, never once had a problem. Same with Vaillants. I don't think there's much in it, just that personally for my own house I have, and would install Vaillant. No particular reason apart from they're pretty bombproof.
But we also know how much easier it is to install a Worcester. Bless that lovely pre-plumb manifold. I don't think i'd have a back left if I was putting Vaillants in week-in week-out and struggling underneath them.

 

[oz-plumber]

There is no such thing!

Little money and no problems.....
You can spend the best money and have more problems than installing a cheap boiler.
Not saying you spend less and have more problems!

Throw darts at a dart board with manufacturers names on it...take the best from there

 

[Jonwells]

Very interested to see all the different opinions of installers best boilers, many there that I wouldn't agree with, but very interesting. I will only say I think intergas are good but little known boilers and I thought that they will be bought out by now by a bigger well known company. Good post.

 

[hitch61]

Thats all well & good aslong as our not fitting worcester,vaillant or ideal as they will try to take the servicing of you when the customer registers their warranty

 

[Leo21]

Thats all well & good aslong as our not fitting worcester,vaillant or ideal as they will try to take the servicing of you when the customer registers their warranty

With Vaillants you register them yourself and just tick the no contact box.

 

[Ermintrude]

It's because it's run by homeserve, same as Vokera

 

[village idiot]

The best boiler is one that does not breakdown.

 

[Paul - PDS]

Ideal Isar for me.. (excellent bit of kit)









..Joking of course!

 

[tamz]

Thats all well & good aslong as our not fitting worcester,vaillant or ideal as they will try to take the servicing of you when the customer registers their warranty

Worcester don't according to this

 

[tamz]

You may not be able to read that. I'll try again

 

[Leo21]

Nope!

 

[wattsie1987]

Best vaillant ecotec plus or exclusive by far.
Cheap value gotta be a gloworm easicom pretty reliable easy to fit and cheap

 

[spike.gb]

We install Vaillant, providing the systems are flushed correctly before and after installation you will only hear from your customers when the annual service is due.

 

[Ermintrude]

This week , I have mostly been fittin heatline Visio. !
In deep Devonshire accent. ( fast show)

 

[Reg Man]

Servowarm rad boiler, complete with leaky o-ring hinges.

 

[LPC]

We install Vaillant, providing the systems are flushed correctly before and after installation you will only hear from your customers when the annual service is due.

Except when the rubber hoses fail. And the pressure sensor. And the internal filling connections start letting by. And then leaking.

But I still like them 🙂

 

[PriestyUK]

Domestic = [FONT=Arial, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif]Viessmann Vitodens 100-W
Commercial = Any Broag - Remeha, (If sectional it has to have a Riello Burner on or nothing at all!)

WORST BOILER = Keston C55[/FONT]

 

[Leo21]

I'd fit more Intergas boilers if they weren't so ugly and awkward to use.

 

[townfanjon]

yep Viessmann for me too , the absolute dogs.

 

[Kyle87]

Biasi aaaaaalllllll the way!!!!!

 

[Kyle87]

Biasi aaaaaalllllll the way!!!!!

Tooooooooooo the tip!!!

 

[Ermintrude]

Biasi aaaaaalllllll the way!!!!!

Notification just poped up and thought u might vote like this before I read it

 

[SimonG]

Biasi aaaaaalllllll the way!!!!!

Were you working underneath that one today and stood up too quick? 🙂

 

[Kyle87]

Were you working underneath that one today and stood up too quick? 🙂

I just felt cheap and nasty and violated

 

[kozak1968]

Ideals are lovely to fit. Shame about the main heat exchangers leaking after 2 years.... Vaillant all the way for me.

 

[Ermintrude]

Ideals are lovely to fit. Shame about the main heat exchangers leaking after 2 years.... Vaillant all the way for me.

On a few of the china transitions 2011 but not had any issues on the 26billion we fitted over the years