Advice on guesthouse plumbing

[BruceK]

I have a similar-sized guest house/B&B. I use standard domestic indirect hot water cylinders (x 6) working in pairs, with large cold water header tanks (x 4) in the attic. I found it best to zone my central heating and so have 6 zones, two on each floor of a 3 storey building. The property is heated by 3 x LPG boilers (2 smaller models ~Myson Economists working side by side and one larger one ~Ideal Concord which, on its own will heat half the property). These boilers do heat water for the shower/bathrooms (x12), but the cylinders also have immersion heaters which, though expensive, are cheaper to run (where possible using Economy 7 and Evening and Weekend tariff) than LPG. I also have a solid fuel Aga, which helps with the hot water for 2 of the cylinders and a large Coalbrookdale Darby, a multifuel stove, in the residents' lounge which is lit every winter evening and burns logs and coal mix. This stove, which the residents love, is connected to the central heating system via a H2 panel, which is an excellent way of safely linking up boilers of different types and also helps heat 2 of the cylinders. Once it reaches temperature, the 2 Myson boilers click out and the stove maintains heat, with the boilers clicking in and out as necessary.
Hope this helps.
BruceK

 

[Rob Foster]

Maybe true about architects and electrics, but it's been approved by building control. The building is stripped back, so no lifting of floor boards etc.

Where about about are you ?
I may have a contact nearby, this is the kind of stuff myself and people I associate with do
I am busy but might be able to help
Rob Foster aka centralheatking

 

[Welder]

Thimk you should be looking for further quotes.

6- 6.8k tops for this work.

See rip off here.

Lets look at some minimal HW kit requirements here:
2 x 400 litre UVCs indirect with direct for PV solar preheat to minimise running costs
35mm copper primary pipework
15/22mm return loop
ALL primary & return properly insulated to reduce consumption
Properly sized incoming main or appropriately sized tank and booster pump set (obv latter gives more consistent performance)
Controls (small BMS by time boilers added
Boilers x 2 for water alone for redundancy
PV

Quick & dirty on that for reasonable not good kit is 12K WITHOUT installation...

Admittedly you dont have to have PV. However having it will make a very serious dent in your fossil fuel energy usage over time and pay back as well as adding to resale value.

You can go for cheap up front for items like cylinders but all you'll do is spend again 5 yrs in.

I'd run a mile from low quotes unless you selling in 12 months.

 

[Ashley Connell]

Where about about are you ?
I may have a contact nearby, this is the kind of stuff myself and people I associate with do
I am busy but might be able to help
Rob Foster aka centralheatking

I'm in Scunthorpe, North Lincolnshire

 

[rpm]

11 bedrooms and 1 kitchen sounds kinda cosy.

 

[Ashley Connell]

11 bedrooms and 1 kitchen sounds kinda cosy.

Thank you for your advice, I'm so glad I joined this forum when I read relevant posts like this! A few members have been very helpful, but apart from that the responses have been disappointing.
FYI the kitchen is huge.

 

[Welder]

Thank you for your advice, I'm so glad I joined this forum when I read relevant posts like this! A few members have been very helpful, but apart from that the responses have been disappointing.
FYI the kitchen is huge.

Pray tell what do you class as helpful?

 

[Ashley Connell]

Pray tell what do you class as helpful?

Mainly your posts to be fair. Also BruceK

 

[Welder]

Mainly your posts to be fair. Also BruceK

Thank you. 🙂

To be fair however few people come here with an open mind. Most come to have their (often misguided) belief systems reinforced so reject anything else. This is the point most of us here come from. Somewhat cynically I admit, but its more often a protection mechanism.

This is genuinely one of the best (real world) advice forums I know of. 😉

If you genuinely want advising on suitable systems, I can put you in touch with someone highly competent & reliable. Just DM me.

 

[Rob Foster]

I'm in Scunthorpe, North Lincolnshire

Out of my sphere of influence I am sorry. However I could produce a working mes diagram of how I would approach it with some global,prices next Saturday if you want , and my Saturday does not get eaten up by narrowboats Rob Foster Aka centralheatking

 

[Ashley Connell]

Thank you everyone, I really appreciate all your advice. Rob Foster, that would be fantastic, but not to worry if you don't get enough time.

 

[Scott_D]

Out of my sphere of influence I am sorry. However I could produce a working mes diagram of how I would approach it with some global,prices next Saturday if you want , and my Saturday does not get eaten up by narrowboats Rob Foster Aka centralheatking

Post it up if you do
Would be good to have a look.