D.I.Y Gas Work!!Calling All GAS SAFE ENGINEERS!!!!!

[mountainman]

used to be done with a candle back in the day

You was posh, tinderbox and flint for me!

 

[ambrosia]

Gas safe cant even stop up all the dodgy fitters who are registered, what hope do they have going after the DIYers

still its a good idea only allowing gas registered people being able to purchase gas appliances

 

[Barry98]

Gas safe cant even stop up all the dodgy fitters who are registered, what hope do they have going after the DIYers

still its a good idea only allowing gas registered people being able to purchase gas appliances

our local biuld centre treid it a few year back lasted about a month , clearly sales were down

 

[bob the plumber]

I think every article i have read over the last month involves a gsr engineer killing a customer through installing to a poor unsafe standard, it aint just the DIY ers, I think the whole 'gas work' competent or not needs a good shake up and kick up the back side

 

[Barry98]

yea not helping ourselves with press like that , added with tv shows etc,

 

[ambrosia]

our local biuld centre treid it a few year back lasted about a month , clearly sales were down

shows how wide spread those DIYers are

 

[mountainman]

I think every article i have read over the last month involves a gsr engineer killing a customer through installing to a poor unsafe standard, it aint just the DIY ers, I think the whole 'gas work' competent or not needs a good shake up and kick up the back side

Dunno what publication your reading but I don't recall any incidents of GSR engineers killing their customers other than One moderately publicised event.
Everyone makes mistakes but there is more chance of being struck by lightning than being injured by a GS engineer.

 

[wheeto]

shows how wide spread those DIYers are

Or GSR engineers who don't want to go buying their customers' boilers for them. Lots of small businesses would prefer to stay under the VAT threshold.

 

[Pssst]

It is my view that simply being GSR does not mean you are competent and above reproach.

The only thing that matters is high quality training ,coaching by highly skilled and experienced fellow engineers,legitimate and correct assessments and examinations and ongoing support whilst you learn the profession.

Instead what we have is a system in which training centres receive bungs in exchange for bits of paper.

There is nothing in law to say someone cannot do their own gas work and the only time they may have to demonstrate competency is when something goes wrong.

IMHO the only thing GSR does at the moment is provide a modicum of training and knowledge and also acts as a form of protectionism for the trade.

The latter is the most important bit for me.

 

[glenno1]

firms like screwfix can demand to see a gas safe card but they dont because they would rather sell than keep people safe imo

 

[mountainman]

All it needs is a law prohibiting the sale of gas appliances, gas appliance spares and associated items to non GSR cardholders.

This country is awash with laws, why not add this common sense one!!!

 

[Barry98]

MONEY , MONEY , MOENY mountain , would be intresting to see a figure on parts alone for illegal works

 

[wheeto]

why not add this common sense one!!!

Perhaps because it's not so "common sense" really?

 

[mountainman]

There's much more money in selling firearms bod but it's illegal to buy them or their component parts without a licence.

 

[mountainman]

Perhaps because it's not so "common sense" really?

Why not?

 

[wheeto]

Why not?

Dual use parts for starters?

Then comparative legislation ... you run the risk of shutting Halfords down before long.

Not to mention the legion of one-man-band GSR engineers who don't want to be buying £1000 boilers themselves for each job and going through the VAT threshold.

 

[mountainman]

I disagree

What dual use gas line components are there?

Dunno about Halfords, I've never bought any boiler spares there.

Last point, Seemples! GSR takes customer or customer's cash to merchants and buys whatever is needed.

 

[Barry98]

There's much more money in selling firearms bod but it's illegal to buy them or their component parts without a licence.

but same as gas stuff mate it happens as has and always will.

or we could start a pertition up to send to number 10

 

[wheeto]

What dual use gas line components are there?

Copper tube. Fittings, compression & solder.

Dunno about Halfords, I've never bought any boiler spares there.

Yeah, well I'm sure you know what the point there is.

Last point, Seemples! GSR takes customer or customer's cash to merchants and buys whatever is needed.

Well on the basis that you can't take the customer's cash without declaring it as part of your turnover, you're left with the option of two people going to the store together. How do you propose to charge for that, seeing as you can't put a % on materials with the customer with you? Your normal hourly rate?

 

[mountainman]

Not fussed about putting % on materials tbh.

My guarantee and purchase support is included in my labour rate and the appliance guarantee is held by the customer which is supported by me.

I'd rather do it this way than buy materials on my account and have the cust go broke and leave me with nothing but a debt.

Been there, done that, got the tee shirt, the book and the video. Never Again!