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I'd rather do it this way than buy materials on my account ...

Exactly, so rather than sending the customer off to buy his boiler, you'll now have to spend at least an hour accompanying him to the merchant. How will you account for / charge for this time?
 
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Exactly, so rather than sending the customer off to buy his boiler, you'll now have to spend at least an hour accompanying him to the merchant. How will you account for / charge for this time?

Thought I'd covered that point in my earlier post!

I have never felt the need to charge for every moment of my time, sometimes I even do stuff for free (gasp!).
 
Thought I'd covered that point in my earlier post!

I have never felt the need to charge for every moment of my time, sometimes I even do stuff for free (gasp!).

Oh, sorry - I misunderstood that bit. My general point, though, is that something as simple as "ban all sales of gas-related items to members of the public" is actually a gross simplification of what would have to be done. And even though you enjoy your customers' company enough to wander to the shops with them 😛 others might not.

All this for what is probably a very marginal public safety benefit.
 
the issue with making it illegal is the same as the drug laws, there will be a black market for gas parts and apps, its demand and supply
imo
 
Im sick of hearing, Family Killed, CO Killing, Child Death, Gas Explosionn!!, ALL OF ITT!!,, especially after reading this months issue of registered gas installer magazine, WHY!!!!, what is wrong with these people out there that do not care about putting sumones life at risk??, let alone changing parts in there own boilers(Threads old and new Posted) and putting there own families at rise, do these people not understand CARBON MONOXIDEE!! will kill you quicker then it takes a murderer to break into your House, theres people out there that still have not got a clue that gas work must be done by a COMPETENT REGISTEREDD!! GAS SAFE ENGINEER!, where is it all going wrong??, i think the government and HSE! need to have a rethink on new methods of advertising to communities that DIY! Gas work is illegal and will kill, put in the news, on TV, In the Newspapers nationally, advertise more, post flyers all over communities make more people aware that what COWBOYS!! out there are doing is wrong, how many more people are going to get hurt or let alone killed, it makes me think how sumone can just let any tom,dick or harry do something that will kill you and then not give a bleeminn care in the world on what happens when they walk out of that door-all i can say to all the cowboys out there imagine if it was YOU!, imagine if it was your family, i hope people will realise i seriousely hope they will. Good Day.

I have read all the posts and think that you guys are delluded - but I have been too.

Gas Safe Register exists to protect the public from competent and incompetent installers. So they have to make a big deal about illegals and CO incidents to justfy the tens of £millions they take of hard-working self employed firms.

The most valid idea I read on the posts, was to de-regulate the gas sector.

I cannot compete with the registered installers, because there are 50 within a mile of my house; never mind the illegals.

These points are made before we even go into what competence means, and whether an ACS is a reliable measure.

We have been stictched up good and proper - so its time to start wake up and consider who the winners and losers are in this.

Note - FE teachers have reject their licence to practice with their governing body IfL. Thus, IfL dropped the fee to £18 a year for some part-timers - however, this will probably not be taken up.

Hence, there is a good chance that those assessing you for competence in gas, within the FE sector that have either failed to register with their governing body - or have not fullfilled their committment to registering their cpd.

And there we are paying out for ACS every five years - and registration of £200 every year, plus analyser, course and goodness knows what else - CO detectors strapped to our tool box!
 
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