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Stanios

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Missed my general elections vote as I worked from 6 to 11pm result of drilling through mains in concrete floor so was adamant to do some voting this time round!

Went over to cast my out vote, are you fussed enough to actually go? or maybe stuck at work with no end in sight like me that time
 
i went voted out ,
however can't help but think this is rigged anyway and the establishment will keep us in no matter what.
 
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You guys aware that the government can just carry on as we are? What I mean is that they don't have to follow the will of the people.
 
Just back from voting. I voted out.
If we are lucky to leave Europe, then E.U. will not exist anyhow I reckon. The lack of one major input will make the E.U. unworkable.
I think the remain vote will win sadly, largely due to fear
 
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Out for me

Don't see why we need to affiliate with Europe, we're not USA

Hopefully we will show ambition and vote leave, can't see it happening though, it's probably rigged or result in American style re-vote
 
From polling customers it would seem the under 30`s want in sadly.

That's because they know no better. Under 30s have seen in their adult life the economy improving to some extent. They also know nothing else but Europe.
If they had been around for last 40 years they might think different.
 
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That's because they know no better. Under 30s have seen in their adult life the economy improving to some extent. They also know nothing else but Europe.
If they had been around for last 40 years they might think different.

I`m with you on that Best.
 
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Talk about on the fence , I have gone yes , no , yes , no for 2 months now
But , Sorry , I voted in and now nobody loves me anymore ( i went for the " better the devil you know " reason )still dont know if I should have gone out .
 
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Didn't vote. I don't see the point of voting in a referendum that was actioned by a party I don't support! Also, unless I ever see some real facts, how can I make an educated decision?!?!

Also, most of the "outs" are the normal working class people (I consider myself in this), and a lot the "ins" are the people of higher standing. Almost seems like we are being fed an idea of a democratic decision whereas we are actually just playing into their hands.....

Or have I been reading too much Orwell.........
 
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the referendum was initiated by the people that is why it has taken so long, the results of which will not make any immediate impact (apart from interest rates) because it is just an internal vote the act of leaving (if the out vote wins) will take many years, I for one am an IN for many reasons, the problems we have are nothing to do with European law makers, the law of the land are at fault, we could make prison fit the crime but we don't, the majority (over 95%) of crimes are committed by white brits, its just that the media can write about the stories that get the masses going, there are exceptions......there are more British scroungers than foreigners on the dole, we could not survive without migrant workers also I know many non brits that have come here and have had 2 or 3 cleaning jobs going to keep their heads above water all of them have a higher degree or masters or PHD! and do the meanial until they get/got the job in their field! their Brit born equivalent wouldn't bother, theyd just go and claim, Europe is a great place its just run by @ankers, THE euro is crap but we were never going there anyway, if we are in Europe and had the right politicians we could manage the continent better as it happens our political system is bankrupt, Boris for president, here endeth the sermon, probably should not have logged in after all of those Irish black stouts!
 
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just tried to read that and by **** it hard work and probably doesn't make much sense

I managed to read it all and it did make sense. :smile:
You have got to admit to two major flaws with remaining, - anyone and everyone has the right to come from any part of Europe and we can't prevent that if we stay in.
Money going into Europe from uk is much more than we get in return.
And maybe I should include a third point, - Europe is in decline
 
I did right another sermon but thought better of it.

as I understand it we can but don't manage our borders, we could easily within Europe have a card system similar to Aus/USA...but we don't! we never signed up to the Shengen convention and kept our opt out, so as far as the EU treaties goes we could brick up the gates and remain in Europe

As for paying monies to EU yep agreed, but we pay more to non eu countries in foreign aid and loans

The real problem is that we do not have a political system that is fit for purpose there is no difference between the "parties" (always thought that terminology fitted what they appear to do) instead of harping on about history and acting like children being paid a salary and a daily rate! there should be representative government for the people by the people.
 
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We are Out then. Noe the question is whether Cameron stays as prime minister given his titanic failure on the most essential topic his party cared about
 
its a majority vote for England but not Scotland and Ireland so looks like we are on our own
 
its a majority vote for England but not Scotland and Ireland so looks like we are on our own

Well they can stuff that as Scotland had a referendum about leaving us and breaking up the UK,we as England may have wanted them to stay.They can like and lump the result as we were omitted from their referendum.
 
I voted out and it's a decision that will probably come back and bite me very very hard. Prepare yourselves.
 
This is the result of our last few governments not listening the people.
Edit, - prime minister David Cameron has just announced he will quit
 
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Cameron resigned. Quicker than I expected! Bojo for next pm!
 
I Cameron wants to, " steady the ship", he should start by throwing overboard all those who predicted doom and gloom if we Brexit. Osborne's warnings and threat of austerity budget makes him first on the list.
 
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So how will this effect the average working man then?

I voted out but I am worried about my future as self employed, I feel it could go 1 of 2 ways in the near future

1) we will go through a certain amount of time of uncertainty in which work will slow down as nobody knows what will happen in the future so will be less forward in spending there money. It depends on how long this uncertainty goes on for will depend on if I can survive or if I would have to look for work.

2) people will expect a price rise in materials and will try and get things sorted Asap.

Unfortunately I think it will be number 1.

On the other hand according to papers this morning France and Holland are apparently calling for referendums and Italy are calling for a referendum on the euro. This could change everything entirely. If 3 countries have spoken out already how many more will follow?
 
I am hoping the EU, as it exists at present, will collapse shortly and that will mean we are all the same.
On a plus side, - shares will highly likely drop now. Wait until they get very low and buy some.
 
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I am hoping the EU, as it exists at present, will collapse shortly and that will mean we are all the same.
On a plus side, - shares will highly likely drop now. Wait until they get very low and buy some.

I think it will to be honest. But I think it was only a matter of time before it did anyway.
 
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Though I should order a viessmann before price rises but common sense tells me that any dip in the value of the pound will be more than offset when the euro now goes into freefall.
 
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Just finish this last bit of business and we're back to an Island.
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I am hoping the EU, as it exists at present, will collapse shortly and that will mean we are all the same.
On a plus side, - shares will highly likely drop now. Wait until they get very low and buy some.

If the EU collapses then we're royally ****ed.
 
can anyone advise?

if scotland has a new referendum and decide to leave the u.k to remain in the e.u, can they afford it?
surley the u.k will not give any 'donations' to an e.u country!

btw, on the way out can the last one leaving make sure the back door is locked john. 🙂
 
can anyone advise?

if scotland has a new referendum and decide to leave the u.k to remain in the e.u, can they afford it?
surley the u.k will not give any 'donations' to an e.u country!

btw, on the way out can the last one leaving make sure the back door is locked john. 🙂

The Scotland thing cracks me up,

They knew we were having a referendum before they had a referendum, their referendum was in our referendum was out.They don't like the result of the referendum so want another referendum because of the referendum.

Laughable utterl laughable
 
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Was in tesco earlier, when the cashier asked the foreign couple in front of me if they needed help packing their bags.

I thought, feck me!, that started quicker than I expected!
 
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Was in tesco earlier, when the cashier asked the foreign couple in front of me if they needed help packing their bags.

I thought, feck me!, that started quicker than I expected!
lol, that cracked me up for all the wrong reasons.lol
 
The Scotland thing cracks me up,

They knew we were having a referendum before they had a referendum, their referendum was in our referendum was out.They don't like the result of the referendum so want another referendum because of the referendum.

Laughable utterl laughable

seriously though, i dont see how it will work, its like being adrift in a dingy!. or will they turn the other way?
 
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The Scotland thing cracks me up,

They knew we were having a referendum before they had a referendum, their referendum was in our referendum was out.They don't like the result of the referendum so want another referendum because of the referendum.

Laughable utterl laughable

Edinburgh voted leave (I believe)
 
If you voted out then, You are a low earner of limited intelligence and a racist! (so I`ve heard) and one lady on Mumsnet posted "These people shouldn`t of been allowed to vote!" She was shot down in flames down though. lol

I also noted the City of London voted out. For those not aware the City of London is separate from London.
 
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If you voted out then, You are a low earner of limited intelligence and a racist! (so I`ve heard) and one lady on Mumsnet posted "These people shouldn`t of been allowed to vote!" She was shot down in flames down though. lol

I also noted the City of London voted out. For those not aware the City of London is separate from London.
City of London was actually one of the highest remain votes with 75% vote for remain.
 
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there was 3 types of voters..
those that had enough voted out, period
the ones in the city & high conservative regions who are calculists or holders of degrees.
& those who floated down stream with the remain camp as their peirs, collegues or bosses told them to do so.

given the results, the remain would loose more support if it was re voted!

i have a degree btw.lol
 
there was 3 types of voters..
those that had enough voted out, period
the ones in the city & high conservative regions who are calculists or holders of degrees.
& those who floated down stream with the remain camp as their peirs, collegues or bosses told them to do so.

given the results, the remain would loose more support if it was re voted!

i have a degree btw.lol

The voting demographic says otherwise.
 
And you get people like this one:
EU Referendum 2016 - Vote Remain or Leave - Unused Ballot Paper. | eBay

It goes:

'I’m 53 and have always voted.

I want to vote today, but can’t.

I’ve listened to hours of discussion, talked endlessly to friends and read countless articles about this referendum. I am so completely confused by it all that I have no idea whether it would be best for Britain – and Europe – for us to be inside or outside of the European Union.

I care – very much – about our country, and Europe, which is why I’ve driven to the polling station today to register my sense of frustration and distress that I am unable to come to a sensible decision about how to vote.

May those, with greater understanding than I, prevail.'
 
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If you voted out then, You are a low earner of limited intelligence and a racist! (so I`ve heard) and one lady on Mumsnet posted "These people shouldn`t of been allowed to vote!" She was shot down in flames down though. lol

I also noted the City of London voted out. For those not aware the City of London is separate from London.

Don't forget the scum of the earth as one of my ex girlfriends from school said on Facebook.

I was tempted to post if you had of posted about your situation before the vote then the other 51.9% would of obviously voted differently because you can't keep your legs together.

But I thought better of getting into a slanging match with even more uneducated people than myself. I do however feel better for saying it now. Lol.
 
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can anyone advise?

if scotland has a new referendum and decide to leave the u.k to remain in the e.u, can they afford it?
surley the u.k will not give any 'donations' to an e.u country!

btw, on the way out can the last one leaving make sure the back door is locked john. 🙂

Sturgeon says she reserves the right to call another referendum, not that she is calling one. She would never win one and knows it and is just taking through the hole in her rse.
Why would anyone want to vote to leave Britain then vote to jump back in with the Germans. The SNP do cos they will need the grants after they turn us into a 3rd world country.

Btw i voted out.
 
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Sturgeon says she reserves the right to call another referendum, not that she is calling one. She would never win one and knows it and is just taking through the hole in her rse.
Why would anyone want to vote to leave Britain then vote to jump back in with the Germans. The SNP do cos they will need the grants after they turn us into a 3rd world country.

Btw i voted out.

thats about my reckoning tam, wasnt sure if i was being synical about it!
quite simply i have said to my knowledge. scotland cannot afford to be in the eu and have very little to offer independently. think mrs crankeys going out on a limb there!
 
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This really can go forever...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum

We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.

They should of employed a proof reader, on that basis alone this petition should be dismissed.
 
This really can go forever...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum

We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.
If that happens ought to name that referendum "Brenter"
 

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