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well.. i am on 16k a year, thats why i wanted to go into plumbing. I am getting the feeling that you guys think its just not worth the grief......

It is not all about money !
I have been there done that
100k a year but was I happy
It is all about what you really want to do at your age I used to love the trade but got to a point where I hated it ,the customers ringing at midnight on christmas eve ,missing collecting my newborn son from hospital as the business was more important !
Just decide what you want from life and go for it .
Now I would be happy to live in a van and live a hippy life with no worries !
 
thanks for the advice mate.... i know its not all about money, but id like to be comfortable.... il take your advice however, we get one life, money doesnt save us at deaths door.....i have no clue what i want to do to be honest, plumbing seemed like a good option, my dad ' a carpenter' has been pushing me towards it seeing what his friends make....
 
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well.. i am on 16k a year, thats why i wanted to go into plumbing. I am getting the feeling that you guys think its just not worth the grief......

The average employed guy on an hourly rate may be on something like £11.50/hr, 37.5 hr week. Overtime and call outs may bump it up a bit but not big bucks and many are on that and less. The average is around 23 - 27k
At the other end on price work can get you 40 - 50k+ but the ones on that are not your run of the mill guys. They are good and fast at what they do.

Many self employed guys would be happy to get 10 grand a year. They struggle to pick up enough work and the start up costs are horiffic if you are jumping in. Most will average n the 20 - 30k bracket but for that they end up working more hours than the ships cat.
The grass is seldom greener.
If i had my time again i'd maybe wash wheelie bins for a living. Probably more money in it and definitely less stress.

Just do a lot of research and keep your eyes open.
It can be done with a bit luck and hard work but the odds are not in your favour.
 
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well you dont want to be mentioning your degree to any college when you go looking for grants etc, youll get 0 help. you need to tag along with a builder and learn the hard labouring bits for a while then move onto evenings 2x a week or 1 day a week at your local college, for plumbing basics and by then youll know some plumbers to bully into working with not for as youll not get paid much if anything. To learn the trade you need an income alongside your learning
 
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i think my national insurance number will flag up degree to colleges if i tried to pull the wool over there eyes.... your right , experiences is better than a piece of paper saying you can do this/that
 
When I had the building firm most of my clients were what I would call real businessmen from sainsburys chief meat buyer to a director at tesco and one who wrote the pick up a penguin advert all multi millonaires but were they ever happy ?
Have even had to camouflage a site toilet to keep a clients wife happy and another who said whatever the wife asks for extra you are not to do it !
Had to be on site at 4 in the morning to hang doors because the feng shui master said it was an auspicious date and time !
One day you wake up and think is mrs x`s new extension really that important ?
I guess I am an old cynic but todays world is all about self gratification and self importance or celeb status !
Follow your own feelins not what someone tells you to do .
 
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i think my national insurance number will flag up degree to colleges if i tried to pull the wool over there eyes.... your right , experiences is better than a piece of paper saying you can do this/that
My mate has a degree and still went down the apprentiship route doing level 1,2 aqnd 3 really funny part was he still had to do the basic english and maths part too !
The system is so messed up that it seems not to matter he would have told them the truth as he is as honest as they come declares all cash too !
 
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Why don't you become an engineer in the merchant navy instead. They only only pay ten grand a year for the first three years when training but when you pass youre guaranteed a job on 30+. Five more years and that will double. They pay all expenses including food & digs and even if you don't fancy being on a ship you've got a respected qualification
 
Bet you felt like fenging a shui at them :lol:
It get worse all the time.
The meetings with the Architect were the funniest as neither of us could keep a straight face !
I often had to walk away if he looked at me ,went for a stroll and had a *** to calm down , the doors were even hung at an angle in the frames to direct the positive energy into the house !
The poor old joiner was doing his nut fabricating the doors and frames as the angles involved were a complete nightmare !
 
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haha comouflage a site toilet ay... she clearly doesnt know the world she lives in if thats her worry.... i will certainly follow my own feelings, when i understand what they are.... not to be to philosophical, im 25, in a country that demands money for bills, housing, cars.... everybody seems to be climbing over each other to gain that extra step...... il never be able to afford a house with the job im in.... it doesnt look like plumbing is the way forward from what those have said on here.... LET ME KNOW NEXT WEEKS LOTTERY NUMBERS SOMEONE ! thanks for all the feedback and advice guys, its priceless !
 
haha comouflage a site toilet ay... she clearly doesnt know the world she lives in if thats her worry.... i will certainly follow my own feelings, when i understand what they are.... not to be to philosophical, im 25, in a country that demands money for bills, housing, cars.... everybody seems to be climbing over each other to gain that extra step...... il never be able to afford a house with the job im in.... it doesnt look like plumbing is the way forward from what those have said on here.... LET ME KNOW NEXT WEEKS LOTTERY NUMBERS SOMEONE ! thanks for all the feedback and advice guys, its priceless !

If the camouflage net has got you thinking try the Lord and Lady we worked for who had holes drilled in their heads ! Google trepanning !
No wonder I think the world is a MAD PLACE !
 
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I did a load of research into these fast track courses, I had a couple of interviews and got accepted on to both of them because all they are interested in is your money, from what I've read they promise you a lot but come up with very little, a lot of people complain of wait ages to be able to complete their practical assessments. Then when you complete the course you have to go self employed because no one will employ you with fast track training, im a month into a bpec level2
 
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If i had my time again i'd maybe wash wheelie bins for a living. Probably more money in it and definitely less stress.

PMSL

Come to think of it I must get mine washed, stinks.

i think its a quid a wash.
 

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