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Ah billy, good to see you're still alive. Did you ever digitise all those training manuals I gave you? Would be good to share them out on here like you said.

i am alive !!

they are on my training shelf in my bedroom, i need to get them scanned and copied!!

i also need to take you for a curry and a pint with added apologies.....
 
This thread has changed the I feel about my son becoming a plumber gas engineer.
Full stop.
I'm taking a holiday from here.
 
This thread has changed the I feel about my son becoming a plumber gas engineer.
Full stop.
I'm taking a holiday from here.

Why? You start at the bottom. It's always been that way hasn't it? Money gets better over time but it's not an overnight fix.
 
Who as an apprentice was sent from birmingham to London to first fix a bathroom and a downstairs WC? Also installing a secondary stub stack in there first 3 months on the job lol.
Unsupervised.
 
You owe me nothing but would be nice to see you before I head abroad. I hope life is treating me well?

If you're pressed for time lad I'll get them back of you and send them on. Up to you but would be nice for as many people as possible to gain from them.



i am alive !!

they are on my training shelf in my bedroom, i need to get them scanned and copied!!

i also need to take you for a curry and a pint with added apologies.....
 
I would be looking, I managed to get a hefty pay rise (although only to what you are on now) I was massively out of my comfort zone and it was a sink or swim situation, if it wasn't for another bloke helping me I would of sank massively but after 3 months I was holding my own and 6 months I started flourishing.

What do you get through in a day?

Most companies I've worked for over the past few years

Installers have been on about £25000 a year and expected to do a neat combi swap in a day.

Service and breakdown engineers between £26-28000 and expected 8+ jobs a day average with no more than 10% call back.
 
We're not your standard company like that which is probably one of the issues. We do a lot of boiler installs and domestic bathroom renovations. Full heating system upgrades also
 
Why? You start at the bottom. It's always been that way hasn't it? Money gets better over time but it's not an overnight fix.

It's the same in every job.

There does seem to be a lot of people do 6-8 week courses and expect to be earning 70k a year. Not completely there fault I don't think anyone would do them if they got told once you complete you will be on minimum wage for a year and then it will start creeping up!
 
We're not your standard company like that which is probably one of the issues. We do a lot of boiler installs and domestic bathroom renovations. Full heating system upgrades also

How long would it take you to do a combi swap?
 
No 6-8 week course here and I don't expect 70k a year. Just advice really.
 
I don't know if that's good or bad but my colleague can do it in 3 hours lol.
 
So are we paid on time served or how quick we can do something? Or how many things we can do?
 
A day is good going at two years in. Fair play on that. A bbu to combi? Unsupervised?
 
A day is good going at two years in. Fair play on that. A bbu to combi? Unsupervised?

I haven't done that on my own as yet if I'm honest. Between 2 of us it took a day including fitting a new radiator and the flue through the roof.
 
So are we paid on time served or how quick we can do something? Or how many things we can do?

Yeah basically. The more you can do the more you earn the employer. The more you earn him the more you should earn. You've got acs now. That's a huge plus on your side. Makes you more employable but the years of experience will count against you a bit. So you need to be able to sell yourself on what you can do.
 
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I'm not trying to say I can do everything or that I can do everything really quick but I feel I deserve more than £60.
When I set out to do this career I didn't know whether I could do it or not and i wouldn't expect a rise if I was still at square one in respect to what I'm able to do.
 
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