Commercial tools?

[macka09]

Hi guys.

I normally only work on domestic stuff so all my tools are obviously geared to that.
My question is what sort of tools do you guys use for working with 54mm compression fittings? And copper threads?
Thanks.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Don't normally use compression on 54 mm but Stilsons 24-36" anything bigger compression wise is different and has bolts instead of one nut (like a flange)

but it press or soldered normally

But most is like domestic but bigger

You can hire threading machines from bss etc have a look on the rems site

 

[macka09]

Don't normally use compression on 54 mm but Stilsons 24-36" anything bigger compression wise is different and has bolts instead of one nut (like a flange)

but it press or soldered normally

But most is like domestic but bigger

You can hire threading machines from bss etc have a look on the rems site

Sorry mate.

What I meant was. On a domestic valve you'd just use your adjustable and grips. Where's as the ISO valves I'll be using on site are used with a male copper thread both sides.

. As there 54mm would you still use stilsons on the copper? Just worried they may round them off a bit.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

i get you, yea so your using a female gate valve / lever valve and using male irons to connect to copper etc

and yes or if you want to spend the cash

Knipex 86 03 400 Pliers Wrench XL Adjustable Spanner 400mm | eBay

what you using on the threads loc 55 or 557?

 

[johnf]

2ft stilsons and loctite 577

 

[macka09]

Loc 55 and boss white

 

[macka09]

i get you, yea so your using a female gate valve / lever valve and using male irons to connect to copper etc

and yes or if you want to spend the cash

Knipex 86 03 400 Pliers Wrench XL Adjustable Spanner 400mm | eBay

what you using on the threads loc 55 or 557?

£100 for a pair of grips lol.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Loc 55 and boss white

on heating ok on domestic water no just use loc 55

 

[macka09]

Yes it's just domestics.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

£100 for a pair of grips lol.

worth while investment its down to you stils or them

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes it's just domestics.

hot and cold? if so non as boss white isnt allowed on hot and cold pipework due to not wras approved and water board are taking a big stance on it this year

 

[macka09]

Hmm. I'll have to check what paste we're using on the job just to be sure, but yes it is hot and cold.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hmm. I'll have to check what paste we're using on the job just to be sure, but yes it is hot and cold.

boss green is ok for hot and cold (wras approved)

 

[Dotty]

24's and jet blue........

 

[macka09]

Is the copper thread liable to cross if tightened to much? I'm just thinking that copper is quite soft

 

[snowhead]

Is the copper thread liable to cross if tightened to much? I'm just thinking that copper is quite soft

Once it's started it won't cross.
You'll struggle to cross thread 2" by hand

 

[ShaunCorbs]

as above your more likely to snap the fitting

 

[snowhead]

as above your more likely to snap the fitting

Or your wrist..

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Or your wrist..

🙂 or drop the stile on your head if working above

 

[rpm]

Is the copper thread liable to cross if tightened to much? I'm just thinking that copper is quite soft

If in doubt about cross threading, unwind the connection until you hear a click then start to tighten again. Damaged to fittings can occur if the male bottoms out and you continue to over tighten.

 

[macka09]

What stilsons would you guys recommend?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What stilsons would you guys recommend?

Ridgid

 

[macka09]

Ridgid

Any in particular?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Any in particular?

https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/straight-pipe-wrench

 

[Scott_D]

 

[macka09]

They look smart.

 

[macka09]

Are these any good lads?

 

[FG28]

Go for the red handled version
Much better imo
Bit heavier but much more robust

 

[ShaunCorbs]

did you find out what boss you were using mucca?

 

[macka09]

did you find out what boss you were using mucca?

Yes mate. There's a couple on site. Theirs boss green and jet blue.

I have a bad habit of calling most joint compounds boss white for some reason.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes mate. There's a couple on site. Theirs boss green and jet blue.

I have a bad habit of calling most joint compounds boss white for some reason.

there fine boss green is ****

 

[macka09]

Any recommendations for wide jaw adjustables? Like 42mm and above

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Any recommendations for wide jaw adjustables? Like 42mm and above

42mm wide or for 42mm comp fittings?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Any recommendations for wide jaw adjustables? Like 42mm and above

42mm wide or for 42mm comp fittings?

and stilsons if your on about 42mm fittings

 

[macka09]

Fittings mate. The stilsons seem to chew the fittings.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Fittings mate. The stilsons seem to chew the fittings.

other than 400mm knipex pliers theres nothing

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Fittings mate. The stilsons seem to chew the fittings.

other than 400mm knipex pliers theres nothing (85mm nut)

 

[tolly]

Fittings mate. The stilsons seem to chew the fittings.

Ridgid used to do large hex wrenchs, they only do one size of hex wrench now, still handy for 35mm comp fittings.

 

[joni os]

Ridgid E110 wrench has many uses besides water pumps. Offset allows jaws to deepen as they widen. Best online price £39.00 with free delivery.

 

[macka09]

Thanks for the advice all. Personally I don't feel with a set of 10/12inch adjustables I can tighten that size fitting properly unless using a bar on the handle.
The job I'm on are moaning about the marks the stilsons leave on the fittings even though non of it is in show.

 

[tolly]

Thanks for the advice all. Personally I don't feel with a set of 10/12inch adjustables I can tighten that size fitting properly unless using a bar on the handle.
The job I'm on are moaning about the marks the stilsons leave on the fittings even though non of it is in show.

how many 35mm+ comp fittings do you have? Normally if we have to put say a lever valve on 35mm tube we would get 35mm to 1 1/4" end feed or press irons and use a screwed valve, bit more secure than compression, obviously has the disadvantage of being harder to take off depending on location but its easier to wind it on rather than doing up comp nuts.

 

[Scott_D]

I have got a pair of these
Ridgid 31400 Spud Wrench 10-67mm Capacity 300mm 31400

 

[macka09]

how many 35mm+ comp fittings do you have? Normally if we have to put say a lever valve on 35mm tube we would get 35mm to 1 1/4" end feed or press irons and use a screwed valve, bit more secure than compression, obviously has the disadvantage of being harder to take off depending on location but its easier to wind it on rather than doing up comp nuts.

Quite a few to be fair mate. 35/42/54 and lots of. We are using male irons on live side but compression the other.