Condensate pipe terminates into neighbours gutter, is this ok?

[Harvest Fields]

may i ask why, the case is metal, so if the pipes are bonded at source eg water and gas no need to bond at boiler

I do agree with you mate. But looking at the quality of the install, I would not be prepared to take that fact as a given. Safe electrical isolation would be the first thing that I did on that one before I did anything else.

 

[goz666]

Something we always do Shaun as a matter of course in areas of humidity or areas around sinks etc. If it was away from the sink or kitchen, off in a cupboard somewhere I wouldn't bother.

 

[Darren Jackson]

Is the filling loop on the hot?????????

Good spot Scott it is on the hot isn't it. Another defect to add to the list that needs correcting.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I do agree with you mate. But looking at the quality of the install, I would not be prepared to take that fact as a given. Safe electrical isolation would be the first thing that I did on that one before I did anything else.

so you would bond all the pipes together that arnt earthed anywhere, theres no point

 

[Darren Jackson]

Anyone notice the 15mm gas.

I do think, but not 100% sure without checking Mi's that you can run upto a meter of gas pipe in 15mm. Providing it's not under gassed and pressure loss is no more than 1mbar from gas meter to inlet. And gas rate checks out. They did gas rate it didn't they!!! Surley they did.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Something we always do Shaun as a matter of course in areas of humidity or areas around sinks etc. If it was away from the sink or kitchen, off in a cupboard somewhere I wouldn't bother.

that make no sense, so you would bond the sink top, baths , rads in bathrooms etc

 

[Harvest Fields]

so you would bond all the pipes together that arnt earthed anywhere, theres no point

No mate. Something BG hammered into me. I would test for bonding and if there was not any I would instruct the customer that they need it doing at the gas meter. At least then the boiler would be bonded.

 

[goz666]

We bond the five pipes under the boiler, it came about years ago during a Corgi inspection and the Inspector asked us why the boiler hadn't been bonded across the pipework when it was in a kitchen almost the same as the one in the pic, we explained that it wasn't something we did and he said from now on in areas of high humidity I want to see the boiler pipework bonded. Done it ever since, right or wrong we still do it.

 

[Darren Jackson]

We don't cross bond anymore 17th threw that one out. Main ecopotential only and a must.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

No mate. Something BG hammered into me. I would test for bonding and if there was not any I would instruct the customer that they need it doing at the gas meter. At least then the boiler would be bonded.

as they used to charge more for it at the boiler and then charge for the main 🙂

 

[ShaunCorbs]

We bond the five pipes under the boiler, it came about years ago during a Corgi inspection and the Inspector asked us why the boiler hadn't been bonded across the pipework when it was in a kitchen almost the same as the one in the pic, we explained that it wasn't something we did and he said from now on in areas of high humidity I want to see the boiler pipework bonded. Done it ever since, right or wrong we still do it.

did you ask him why ????? elec regs dont require it or gas regs

 

[goz666]

Nah Mate just did it, must admit though in this area most boilers we go to have been bonded across flow, dhw, gas, cold and return. A mate of mine was ranting the other week that all this bonding should be done by leccys. He still bonds the pipework as most lads seem to round here.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Very very true. I am not bothered about bonding at appliance as long as it is there elsewhere. But on all my installs I check they have it and if not I get them to get a sparky to do it for them. Ie at the meter or cold water pipework

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Very very true. I am not bothered about bonding at appliance as long as it is there elsewhere. But on all my installs I check they have it and if not I get them to get a sparky to do it for them. Ie at the meter or cold water pipework

and these days you have rcd which require them to be bonded if its an old 3036 its ncs anyway

 

[king of pipes]

All the guys have coverd everything but i must say it is a very poor install for the money you paid you should have got a better quality boiler and tidyer job than that hope it gets sorted regards kop

 

[cr0ft]

Just to clear up the bonding issue (as an electrician), if the power supply to the boiler is RCD protected then no cross bonding is required. All of the pipes coming into the boiler are attached to the boiler case which is earthed back through the earth busbar on the consumer unit. No point in adding work for the sake of it!

 

[Fiona]

Thanks so much for all your feedback!

We had him in this morning and everything that was raised has been seen to. But just to clarify for those wondering, yes the benchmark was completed in full in which it was stated the system had been flushed. We have also since received the GSR certificate for the job but I have also requested an inspection so hopefully we have someone in soonish to ok it all.

Strangely though I ended up contacting an expert via ciphe.org.uk and received the following -
"it is ok to discharge the condense into that rainwater guttering provided the owner of that guttering agrees". Obviously they weren't happy with it hence the looking into this in the first place but its interesting to see it being ok after all that has been said.

Anyway, hopefully its all resolved now and we have happy neighbours again.

Thanks for your help!
Fiona

 

[Scott_D]

It can only go to rain water if neutralised or it's a combined rain water and sewage drain.

Was the filling loop connected to the hot water?

 

[leesparkykent]

The only place boiler pipework needs bonding is if its installed in a bathroom that's been wired to pre 17th edition (so no RCD on bathroom circuits) as all extraneous conductive parts and exposed conductive parts in that location require cross bonding so in the event of a fault the extraneous and exposed conductive parts are at the same potential.

 

[magicno1]

Double check valve installed wrong! Should be on the cold inlet guys!
Sorry to say but Rouge Traders may like this one!