Do any Gas Fitters use Part P electrics? Assistance required

[dancinplumba]

it takes plumber and a spark to change shr lol unless you part p

 

[tamz]

Everyone can get a bit paranoid about the wiring of heating but if we are honest and as we all know, most sparks know as much about heating as we do the 17th edition.
It is an overlapping part of the trade. We know our bit and they know the technical stuff of why.
Heating runs on less than 2 amp so cable size is irrelevant. Who cares about voltage drop and Zd's, it is also irrelevant in this case.
Heating is like plugging a lamp in. Anyone can do it but if you need a spur unless the board has trip switches you "alledgedly" need an rcd spur.#
It depends where and for who you are working and will never change.

 

[dancinplumba]

not paranoid, and agree bout sparks but it is sad fact that is how it is what happens when sh*t hits ? a spur should be able to take max load. dis agree that its like pluggin lamp in otherwise sparks coild do it. 🙂

 

[tamz]

Thankfully up here in scotland we don't have to put up with part p.

 

[gasmarc]

its getting to the stage where we will be paying more money to line other peoples pockets just before we can go to work :59: . My mate is a sparks for over 40 years and has wired everything and has refused to keep doing these upgrades every few years, Cant say I blame him

 

[Hybrid]

i know bud its a ballache innit but thats the regs. when you notify boiler through gassafe they want location if its kit or bath and they want to do inspection they will want part p cert. ad who get the **** wen it goes **** up ??? deffo alll a ballache

Nonsense, I had an inspection last year to a boiler install in a bathroom, not a word mentioned. It's none of their business who did the electrics and it's beyond their remit to query it.

 

[desrob]

part p is nonsense,ask your sparky.just another money making scam aimed at them on the fridges of the trade

 

[bob the plumber]

haven't read all the posts but why dont you think about doing part p defined scope which will cover you for the scope of work you may be working in, interlock, fuse spur wiring inc bathroom lighting etc. not necessary to to do full scope electrics. I have part p defined scope but if things get tricky like the other guys say we get an electrician in 🙂

 

[bob the plumber]

part p defined doesnt cost the earth either, your talking 500 quid max

 

[Barry98]

thats what im booked on

Electrical Part P - Defined Scope BPEC (Level 3) - Brookhouse Gas Training Centre

 

[desrob]

thats what im booked on

Electrical Part P - Defined Scope BPEC (Level 3) - Brookhouse Gas Training Centre

waste of money,what about 17th edition you need that too.

 

[bob the plumber]

waste of money,what about 17th edition you need that too.

whys that a waste of money? its exactly what you need without having to fully train as an electrician?

 

[Barry98]

am doing it to improve my knowledge of electrics and further my own devolpment . i dont know everything and dont claim to. i would do the 17th edition if i wanted to be a sparky then again if i wanted to be a sparky i would of sat at the back of the class picking my nose with the rest of them 🙂 🙂

 

[bob the plumber]

i did the the part p defined for the same reason bod, my idea of testing a live used to be just touching the cable 🙂 i do what i need to do know, if its messy and im not sure then ill get the fully qualified guys in to sort it like most engineers out there

 

[desrob]

am doing it to improve my knowledge of electrics and further my own devolpment . i dont know everything and dont claim to. i would do the 17th edition if i wanted to be a sparky then again if i wanted to be a sparky i would of sat at the back of the class picking my nose with the rest of them 🙂 🙂

you have to do 17th edition period,your part p defined full scope means nothing.

 

[Barry98]

it means to me i have abetter understanding of electrics then what i did before i went in and ill learn

• Applicable Building Regulations
• Electrical safety legislation, regulations, standards and terminology
• Enabling you to alter and install electrical circuits in association with your primary task of work.
• Over-view of BS7671:2008 IEE Wiring regulations (17th Ed.) and on-site guide.
• Installation of, and alteration of domestic wiring circuits, i.e. sockets, lighting, heating and earthing arrangements.
• Safe isolation procedures
• Electrical test procedures
• Cable and component selection
• Installation and replacement of electrical components
• Identifying unsafe electrical situations
• Building notification forms
• Special locations
• New circuit requirements
• Completion of Electrical Installation Certificate
• Completion of Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate

[h=3]Qualifications achieved:[/h]Electrics Defined Scope Level 3 Part P B Scope Certificate (BPEC)

 

[tamz]

How much is it costing Bod. I've been thinking of doing it as i am paying a spark for minor works certs and last months was £900 (i just wrote his cheque out!)

 

[Barry98]

£600 and same as you mine was stupid a month , when he turned up.

 

[Barry98]

the £600 is just course , i havent looked much into other fees etc further down line, but i see it as once i register etc i know i am reliable enough and will be on site anyway lol .

 

[Barry98]

[SUB]again im lucky enough that the same matre who got me my multi meter just gave me this. just needs calibrating for if i do the pat p course. which is a posibilty am considering as i have a few commercial places where i do gas works so might be able to get some pat p work while were there [/SUB]