Do any Gas Fitters use Part P electrics? Assistance required

[Hybrid]

i know bud its a ballache innit but thats the regs. when you notify boiler through gassafe they want location if its kit or bath and they want to do inspection they will want part p cert. ad who get the **** wen it goes **** up ??? deffo alll a ballache

Nonsense, I had an inspection last year to a boiler install in a bathroom, not a word mentioned. It's none of their business who did the electrics and it's beyond their remit to query it.

 

[desrob]

part p is nonsense,ask your sparky.just another money making scam aimed at them on the fridges of the trade

 

[bob the plumber]

haven't read all the posts but why dont you think about doing part p defined scope which will cover you for the scope of work you may be working in, interlock, fuse spur wiring inc bathroom lighting etc. not necessary to to do full scope electrics. I have part p defined scope but if things get tricky like the other guys say we get an electrician in 🙂

 

[bob the plumber]

part p defined doesnt cost the earth either, your talking 500 quid max

 

[Barry98]

thats what im booked on

Electrical Part P - Defined Scope BPEC (Level 3) - Brookhouse Gas Training Centre

 

[desrob]

thats what im booked on

Electrical Part P - Defined Scope BPEC (Level 3) - Brookhouse Gas Training Centre

waste of money,what about 17th edition you need that too.

 

[bob the plumber]

waste of money,what about 17th edition you need that too.

whys that a waste of money? its exactly what you need without having to fully train as an electrician?

 

[Barry98]

am doing it to improve my knowledge of electrics and further my own devolpment . i dont know everything and dont claim to. i would do the 17th edition if i wanted to be a sparky then again if i wanted to be a sparky i would of sat at the back of the class picking my nose with the rest of them 🙂 🙂

 

[bob the plumber]

i did the the part p defined for the same reason bod, my idea of testing a live used to be just touching the cable 🙂 i do what i need to do know, if its messy and im not sure then ill get the fully qualified guys in to sort it like most engineers out there

 

[desrob]

am doing it to improve my knowledge of electrics and further my own devolpment . i dont know everything and dont claim to. i would do the 17th edition if i wanted to be a sparky then again if i wanted to be a sparky i would of sat at the back of the class picking my nose with the rest of them 🙂 🙂

you have to do 17th edition period,your part p defined full scope means nothing.

 

[Barry98]

it means to me i have abetter understanding of electrics then what i did before i went in and ill learn

• Applicable Building Regulations
• Electrical safety legislation, regulations, standards and terminology
• Enabling you to alter and install electrical circuits in association with your primary task of work.
• Over-view of BS7671:2008 IEE Wiring regulations (17th Ed.) and on-site guide.
• Installation of, and alteration of domestic wiring circuits, i.e. sockets, lighting, heating and earthing arrangements.
• Safe isolation procedures
• Electrical test procedures
• Cable and component selection
• Installation and replacement of electrical components
• Identifying unsafe electrical situations
• Building notification forms
• Special locations
• New circuit requirements
• Completion of Electrical Installation Certificate
• Completion of Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate

[h=3]Qualifications achieved:[/h]Electrics Defined Scope Level 3 Part P B Scope Certificate (BPEC)

 

[tamz]

How much is it costing Bod. I've been thinking of doing it as i am paying a spark for minor works certs and last months was £900 (i just wrote his cheque out!)

 

[Barry98]

£600 and same as you mine was stupid a month , when he turned up.

 

[Barry98]

the £600 is just course , i havent looked much into other fees etc further down line, but i see it as once i register etc i know i am reliable enough and will be on site anyway lol .

 

[Barry98]

[SUB]again im lucky enough that the same matre who got me my multi meter just gave me this. just needs calibrating for if i do the pat p course. which is a posibilty am considering as i have a few commercial places where i do gas works so might be able to get some pat p work while were there [/SUB]

 

[tamz]

Same carry on as you with him turning up on time. Half the time i've got it wired and he just beeps it and fks off. I might look into it more. Cheers mate.

 

[dancinplumba]

and then you have to register with a competent persons scheme like napit and be inspected once a year, and buy a multifunction tester etc etc, gets expensive but gotta do it before july cos requirements change

 

[Barry98]

no worries

 

[tamz]

and then you have to register with a competent persons scheme like napit and be inspected once a year, and buy a multifunction tester etc etc, gets expensive but gotta do it before july cos requirements change

That is true but it will be cheaper than 10 grand or so a year for me anyway.

 

[dancinplumba]

agree tamz it will indeed..

 

[Barry98]

and then you have to register with a competent persons scheme like napit and be inspected once a year, and buy a multifunction tester etc etc, gets expensive but gotta do it before july cos requirements change

if it was easy and cheap every monkey would be doing it though dancinplumba 🙂

 

[dancinplumba]

true bod true they do and then they call themselves sparkys lol 🙂

 

[Barry98]

true bod true they do and then they call themselves sparkys lol 🙂

bom bom

 

[tamz]

I don't want to be a spark and a bit paper won't make me one but i can wire heating better than any spark i have ever met.
Problem is i need a bit paper and yet another course to do what i do every day. If i wasn't doing the volume of work i do it wouldn't bother me getting someone in but it is costing too much for stuff i can do myself so i might as well do it.

 

[desrob]

it means to me i have abetter understanding of electrics then what i did before i went in and ill learn

• Applicable Building Regulations
• Electrical safety legislation, regulations, standards and terminology
• Enabling you to alter and install electrical circuits in association with your primary task of work.
• Over-view of BS7671:2008 IEE Wiring regulations (17th Ed.) and on-site guide.
• Installation of, and alteration of domestic wiring circuits, i.e. sockets, lighting, heating and earthing arrangements.
• Safe isolation procedures
• Electrical test procedures
• Cable and component selection
• Installation and replacement of electrical components
• Identifying unsafe electrical situations
• Building notification forms
• Special locations
• New circuit requirements
• Completion of Electrical Installation Certificate
• Completion of Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate

Qualifications achieved:

Electrics Defined Scope Level 3 Part P B Scope Certificate (BPEC)

plagiarism my friend,i have both defined and full scope,learn the hard way