Employee Broken Wrist Outside of Work

[plumben]

I think the fact of the way you've found out is making it worse perhaps,
Heres one way of looking at it, he put it in the skip, I come along and then sell it its been disposed of as you said and you've got no control over me removing it from the skip, so what difference is it if he put it in the skip and then removed it

As for the broken wrist, sounds like he wants to work still, i'd either send him off on ssp or get him to do some light office work at home or something along them lines

 

[lame plumber]

if he issigned off, you dont want him near the workplace, my own wrist is in a cast at present, so cant drive - insurance invalid, cant work in other peoples houses - insurance invalid, cant go on the boat, even i have limits 🙂
so sat at home thinking about doing some accounts.... been thinking for 7 days now 🙂

 

[Kev the gas]

Just a thought but you asked him to get rid at the local dump ?

Trade waste is not allowed as you know, bear that in mind.

 

[Ray Stafford]

OK - here's a different viewpoint. He was told to take it to the recycling. In other words, get rid. In his mind, it held no value for cr0ft any longer. It would be no different to picking a bath out of a skip.

Of course, the issue of disobeying a direct instruction remains, but I wouldn't necessarily label him a thief - he may have had quite a different understanding and be aghast at the idea that his actions were being seen as dishonest...

An interesting one.

A few years ago, we had a similar issue. A department head was responsible for identifying redundant assets in that department, and disposing of them. Traditionally, "disposing" meant "put it in the skip". However, we discovered stuff of our appearing on eBay. It seems that the manager concerned had decided that if it was going in the skip anyway, he may as well sell it on eBay and pocket the proceeds.

But, it was being chucked anyway, so no harm done?

Unfortunately not. After a while, I started to wonder if the decision about writing off the asset became less about its continued value to the organisation, and more about its appeal on eBay.

 

[newcastle phill]

Which is perhaps why such final decisions should have been taken by someone higher up ???

 

[Ray Stafford]

Which is perhaps why such final decisions should have been taken by someone higher up ???

He WAS the "someone higher up"!

 

[newcastle phill]

Not high enough then obviously lol ?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Not high enough then obviously lol ?

The difficult part of scaling up a business is that you have to let go of stuff. In this case, the "next person up" would have been me. And if I spent my time worrying about asset registers and equipment write-offs, who would build the business?

Its just a cost of business. You can have systems to control it and limit the damage, but there is no point in kidding yourself that it doesnt happen.

 

[newcastle phill]

I guess its now written into terms of employment or ethical conduct policy ??

 

[Ray Stafford]

I guess its now written into terms of employment or ethical conduct policy ??

Nah. I hate policies. I'd rather be taken for a mug now and then, but keep the guys free to do their jobs without drowning them in paper. Its an irritation, but not the end of the world.

 

[REDSAW]

if he issigned off, you dont want him near the workplace, my own wrist is in a cast at present, so cant drive - insurance invalid, cant work in other peoples houses - insurance invalid, cant go on the boat, even i have limits 🙂
so sat at home thinking about doing some accounts.... been thinking for 7 days now 🙂

take next week of imo. lol

 

[REDSAW]

An interesting one.

A few years ago, we had a similar issue. A department head was responsible for identifying redundant assets in that department, and disposing of them. Traditionally, "disposing" meant "put it in the skip". However, we discovered stuff of our appearing on eBay. It seems that the manager concerned had decided that if it was going in the skip anyway, he may as well sell it on eBay and pocket the proceeds.

But, it was being chucked anyway, so no harm done?

Unfortunately not. After a while, I started to wonder if the decision about writing off the asset became less about its continued value to the organisation, and more about its appeal on eBay.

thats the xmas beer money!!

 

[newcastle phill]

Any update ???

 

[PlumbersMate]

Interested to know what happened

 

[Rickster123]

Sacking him over using a bath that was going to a recycling centre at the same time he's broken his arm? Seems a bit harsh to me.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Less people in your life means less hassle imho

 

[Rickster123]

Less people in your life means less hassle imho

What a cheery soul you are hammers...

 

[hammers4spanner]

True tho

 

[newcastle phill]

All quiet on the western front ????

 

[cr0ft]

Nah. I think they were just messing around on Facebook, asked about it in a nice way and it's all good. The bath went to the skip.

6 weeks off work for him with a broken wrist is a ****er but such is life. No one has died!