full install - pipework?

[Harvest Fields]

I am not hiding just being busy before Christmas. Trying to do as much as I can but slowing down now as it’s getting closer to Christmas. Scheduling works for new year. How have you been ? Aren’t you busy before Christmas, I bet you are 🙂

Lucky enough to be busy most of the time mate. But I like it on here and find it quite addictive. Looking forward to Christmas though.

 

[Old Account]

Lucky enough to be busy most of the time mate. But I like it on here and find it quite addictive. Looking forward to Christmas though.

I find it addictive too ... but sometimes I feel like people come on here to wind us up ... I don’t get the impression that they really need help but trying to fool us. I can only admit I like it too and it’s a great thing to share knowledge.

 

[Welder]

Lucky enough to be busy most of the time mate. But I like it on here and find it quite addictive. Looking forward to Christmas though.

Shhhh. Dont be telling people! They'll find out its quite nice 🙄

 

[Deleted member 102951]

hi, whats your water supply pressure and flow rate?

assuming a combi.... 22mm flow and returns 15mm off this to rads (maybe 10mm in walls if rad is not a great output) 15mm hot , 22mm primary cold 15mm to fixtures(best first tee to feed combi)

gas must be sized and installed by a gas safe engineer. boiler must be installed by a gas safe engineer. (including fixing to wall)

Hi and thanks for the advice.
I should have made it clear at the start i guess... I have someone to do the installation for me who is gas safe registered.
I just wanted an independent opinion on whether its best to use copper or plastic. and as I am supplying them with all materials I need to know how much pipe and how many fittings to get. Thats why I did the drawing to see how much pipe i would need, just not sure if it is the best way to run the pipes?
Thanks again...
legepe

 

[snowhead]

but I am very busy with installing 28 toilets for a Convent .

With today's madness on equality and P.C, I hope you are also installing some urinals.

 

[Welder]

With today's madness on equality and P.C, I hope you are also installing some urinals.

Bu66er to sit on tho....

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Bu66er to sit on tho..

Naa hold onto the pipework/ grab rail above and swing

 

[Old Account]

With today's madness on equality and P.C, I hope you are also installing some urinals.

No urinals just toilets for old people.

 

[AWheating]

very hard to give you exact lists tbh, whats the flooring and joist system?

copper is the best option if suitable plastic if pulmbing from below into ceiling space. plastic 10mm drops may be better than copper into electrical boxes or triangles. best ask your plumber.

list to start you off:

15m of 28mm copper pipe
45m of 22mm copper pipe
60m of 15mm copper pipe
50m coil of 10mm copper pipe
10 x 28mm elbows
2 x 28mm 45 elbows
4 x 28mm couplers
2 x 28mm equal tee
4 x 28x22mm reducers
1 x 28mm cap end
50 x 22mm elbows
10 x 22mm couplers
4 x 22mm st elbows
4 x 22mm equal tee
4 x 22x22x15mm tee
4 x 22x15x22mm tee
4 x 22x15mm reducer
4 x 22mm cap end
70 x 15mm elbows
12 x 15mm couplers
16 x 15mm tees
20 x 15x10mm reducers
4 x 15mm cap end
2 x rolls of hair felt lagging
1 x roll of lead free solder
1 x tub of flux
1 x bottle of mapp gas
2 x boxes of 4x75mm screws
2 x boxes of 4x40mm screws
1 x box of 5x60mm screw
1x box of brown wall plugs
1 x bag of 15mm nail clips
1 x bag of 10mm nail clips
1 x bag of 22mm nail clips
2 x rolls of 50mm yellow insulation tap
12m of 2x2 timber

if plastic also
150 x 15mm inserts
100 x 22mm inserts
25 x 10mm inserts
34m of 2x2 timber

plastic needs clipping/ supports every 300 to 500mm

 

[king of pipes]

Most plumbing and heating suppliers will supply you with a heating pack which will contain all the main components fittings ,and pipe you need , if this is new build then its plastic under floors and where not visable and copper on show. Refurb then you can get away with copper which in my opinion is far superior. Kop

 

[sammathias]

Why can't you get away with copper throughout on a new build kop?

 

[Old Account]

As above really. Copper is by far superior and when installed I would won’t to make sure it’s will be insulated with armaflex. If you use plastic then I would only use crimping rather than pushfits. Me personally I would use a combi storage boiler rather than an unvented cylinder but that’s preference. If you ask plenty of plumbers you’ll see that everyone of them may have a different idea of installing such a new system.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Why can't you get away with copper throughout on a new build kop?

Costs

 

[AWheating]

plastic costs more for materials but labour is alot less. also most newbuilds are done from below in ceiling for health and safety and constructions reasons. most joist systems make it very hard to install lengths of copper without damage.

the only new builds that are normally all copper are one offs and national trust type housing associations.

 

[king of pipes]

Why can't you get away with copper throughout on a new build kop?

you can bud but if you have to go through joists it's a nightmare of a job pricing against the plastic boys we will be alot more expensive sometimes you need to match your competitors