Gas Safe Engineer doing a foreigner - what should I ask?

[Riley]

No insurance no personal Gas reg accident waiting to happen in my eyes

 

[quality]

Still have to register it with building control

 

[mattfrance]

No insurance no personal Gas reg accident waiting to happen in my eyes

in this case i think you are correct, but i don't really understand how someone else can be a competent person then when they leave work suddenly they become incompetent.

 

[Millsy 82]

in this case i think you are correct, but i don't really understand how someone else can be a competent person then when they leave work suddenly they become incompetent.

In the eyes of the law to be deemed competent you must have a gas safe registration for the work you are carrying out. You are deemed incompetent if you do not have it. If you have it through work but do private jobs without then they will assume that you know you must be registered to work on it and then punish you more for it.

It doesnt matter if you are competent or not if you are not registered then you shouldn't be working on gas.

 

[Aire]

It doesnt matter if you are competent or not if you are not registered then you shouldn't be working on gas.

Not entirely true. If your doing favours for family or friends and aren't making profit on the work, then you don't need to be registered to legally work on gas.

 

[Millsy 82]

Not entirely true. If your doing favours for family or friends and aren't making profit on the work, then you don't need to be registered to legally work on gas.

This isn't about doing an unpaid job for friends or family though. I also dont see how your going to prove you weren't getting paid for it. I have heard the taxman says you owe us this and you have to prove them otherwise obviously with no receipts etc no proof of how much work you have done and I can see gas safe being the same. Obviously they wont do anything just make you join so they can take £200 a year off you.

 

[Riley]

And again it’s daft how easily this problem could be made to go away by having a clear line. If you don’t have a Gas safe card you cannot work on gas simple. None of this competence rubbish that is open to misinterpretation and abuse

 

[Millsy 82]

And again it’s daft how easily this problem could be made to go away by having a clear line. If you don’t have a Gas safe card you cannot work on gas simple. None of this competence rubbish that is open to misinterpretation and abuse

I think they should remove people for a year or 2 for working outside of their registration first time and if they do it again then remove permanently. Gas safe have the teeth of a slug and people know that.

Installer: Oh I've got caught I will pay the £500 registration fee then.
Gas safe: oh thank you your good to go.

 

[Harvest Fields]

£500,00??

 

[Riley]

There is no deterrent

 

[Millsy 82]

£500,00??

Initial isn't far off it. I think it was £480 or something like that.

 

[Millsy 82]

There is no deterrent

Exactly so the people dont really care.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Initial isn't far off it. I think it was £480 or something like that.

I’ve never paid anywhere near that!

 

[Millsy 82]

I’ve never paid anywhere near that!

Just looked. Initial is £434 after that £180.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Just looked. Initial is £434 after that £180.

Still never paid that. 😀

 

[Darren Jackson]

which law exactly? The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 state that you must be a competent person to work on gas appliances. The Gas Safe Register is not mentioned in any UK legislation, being on the register is a good way to prove that you are a competent person.

And in the eyes of the law being gas safe registered is the only acceptable proof that you are deemed a competent person.

 

[Burger]

And in the eyes of the law being gas safe registered is the only acceptable proof that you are deemed a competent person.

I thought it was your acs that deemed you competent and Gas safe allows you to work for remuneration?

 

[Riley]

It’s somantics though under current rules this engineer doesn’t meet the required criteria in order to install a boiler under his own name

 

[Aire]

I thought it was your acs that deemed you competent and Gas safe allows you to work for remuneration?

Yes but you can't turn up at someone's house and show them your acs certificates can you. You have to be registered to legally work as a business, but it also shows your customers you are competent to work on gas.

 

[Burger]

It’s somantics though under current rules this engineer doesn’t meet the required criteria in order to install a boiler under his own name

Yes mate I get that, but under gsiur you are allowed to be competent, and not be a member of an approved of an approved class of persons (currently gas safe) if working without financial reward or gain. He should indeed have his own gas safe registration to carry out this job as he’s quoted for it.