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So what do you call yourself and why how do you justify it ?
Not that I care what you want to be called but would love to hear as seems to be these days everyone wants some kind of grandiose title but really why ?
 
Heating Engineer if someone asks the question.
I am not gas qualified, but hate it when I get the remark - " he's a heating engineer " when someone refers to a gas guy who often is useless. What they are saying is that I am just a plumber.
Really though, I hate the way most jobs in this country are described in snobby imaginative terms, designed to impress. Everybody seems to be a manager or an assistant manager.
 
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Plumber, heating engineer, gas/ service engineer, that guy who does wata and gas stuff.......... All the same value in my book so call me what you like 🙂


Bathroom fitter, kitchen fitter ..... These titles should be banned.
 
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Plumber, very simple!

Specialist bathroom and kitchen fitter always makes me laugh especially when it's followed by bricklayer and gardener!
 
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I TBH prefer heating engineer, it's what i spent most of my years on site doing and what i prefer.
Service engineer floats my boat too, plumber well I'll put that 3rd.
 
Mechanical supervisor. Is my job title that's what's on my pay slips, but I'd guess that's exactly the sort of tittle this thread was created for..

but you can call me Al
 
liquid and gas containment specialist but seriously im a plumber which covers everything all the rest are of shoots of my trade and that includes electricians most of whom were plumbers originally
 
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I think of myself as a Plumber, and thats what I tell people. But i guess im also a Director and Sole Shareholder as i own and run a Ltd company. I like Plumber though
 
Don't like being called plumber. I put in a lot of hard work, money, time and effort into my technical knowledge and understanding of heating systems.

Plumber feels to me a starting point in a long career, and different titles to me are a way of identifying people who have gained extensive knowledge in certain areas in order to add something to the industry/employer.

As unjust as it may sound that's my view on it
 
Don't like being called plumber. I put in a lot of hard work, money, time and effort into my technical knowledge and understanding of heating systems.

Plumber feels to me a starting point in a long career, and different titles to me are a way of identifying people who have gained extensive knowledge in certain areas in order to add something to the industry/employer.

As unjust as it may sound that's my view on it

Theres always one usually a heating engineer who thinks he is much better than others this is just snobbery some gsr guys cant even fit a bathroom or 1st fix a house but can service a boiler WOW..brum
 
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plumber and gas fitter I rarely do gas repairs more through choice as I am slow as I don't have a vast experience in it so don't like to call myself a gas engineer
 
**** house engineer.

I'm a mechanical supervisor by job title. However, all it means is that I just make sure that the people on site (who know their job very well) are doing it correctly. Although I have no clue what I'm looking at.................................

I'm still being paid though?
 
Susan, Jane....Ted.....for £200 a day you can call me what you like.......but i draw the line at tiler.......thats just wrong.
 
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Theres always one usually a heating engineer who thinks he is much better than others this is just snobbery some gsr guys cant even fit a bathroom or 1st fix a house but can service a boiler WOW..brum

I know of plenty that can't even solder. but im not getting into it we'll agree to disagree
 
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my payslip says "technical lead engineer" but i spend more time doing onsite supervision than i do doing the technical spec, cad design and schematics for biomass systems.

keeps me out of trouble!!
 
I'm a plumber, can't be arsed with people's hang ups by either wanting to be an "engineer" or even worse, those who feel the need to justify that being an "engineer" is somehow special, it isn't
 
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If you want to call yourself just a 'plumber' while a lot of monkeys out there with little or no experience, OR those capable but who just want to do bad work, but call themselves 'Engineers', then I think you are underselling yourself. First impressions of you from a potential customer is your job title. 'Plumber' says to me less skilled, plus possibly someone who can't do heating work.
 
easily resolved, if like me you say on the van you do heating and plumbing, service repair and installation, covers most things🙂
 
If you want to call yourself just a 'plumber' while a lot of monkeys out there with little or no experience, OR those capable but who just want to do bad work, but call themselves 'Engineers', then I think you are underselling yourself. First impressions of you from a potential customer is your job title. 'Plumber' says to me less skilled, plus possibly someone who can't do heating work.
That's the problem,this is what Jo public say, its the 'just' bit that's bad. I am a Plumber and Proud
 
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But, be honest, I bet you have done work for at least several people who are genuine highly qualified 'engineers', who typically will talk the talk, but are morons who can't hammer a nail in straight?

more than several lol
 
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I always call my self a heating engineer, I know that engineers hate it but it's just what I got called in quite a few jobs.

I do try and shy away from plumber mainly because I have worked more on heating in my career and feel this is more my specialist area, also I can't do poo! It just makes me gag every time.
 
The Humble Apprentice is my job title. I always wondered about trying to explain typical job or company's services in one title since plumber/plumbing doesnt suggest that you do gas/appliance work, gas/heating engineer suggests you dont deal with drains.. Engineer suggests a qualified person, plumber suggests a tradesperson
 
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So, if you're an engineer - you have a degree in engineering?

(I have .. )

Mechanical Engineer = Degree in Mechanical Engineering
Electrical Engineer = Degree in Electrical Engineering
Civil Engineer = Degree in Civil Engineering
Structural Engineer = Degree in Structural Engineering
....

So for Heating Engineer, that must be in thermodynamics then.

In Germany, Engineer has the same status as Dr..

Sorry guys most people that call themself an Engineer should be called a technician ...

Heating Technician, Air Conditioning Technician I go along with that.

Heating Engineer? Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

<Rant Over>
 
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so, if you're an engineer - you have a degree in engineering?

(i have .. )

mechanical engineer = degree in mechanical engineering
electrical engineer = degree in electrical engineering
civil engineer = degree in civil engineering
structural engineer = degree in structural engineering
....

So for heating engineer, that must be in thermodynamics then.

In germany, engineer has the same status as dr..

Sorry guys most people that call themself an engineer should be called a technician ...

Heating technician, air conditioning technician i go along with that.

Heating engineer? Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

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BIG HEAD, BET YOU CAN'T HAMMER A NAIL IN STRAIGHT, sorry seem to be shouting
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Entropy:
a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
"the second law of thermodynamics says that entropy always increases with time"

so everyone knows now 🙂🙂
 
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Heating Engineer? Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

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its a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.

.....Booom! How do ya like them apples!! I'm not even an engineer, just a crash bang wallop installer.
 
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<Rant>....

So, if you're an engineer - you have a degree in engineering?

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Hi Gordon.

My old man was apprenticed as a tool maker from 14, spent 20 years learning his trade in various "engineering" workshops, and then went on to run the production facilities at Roots group, finishing his career as production manager at Hoover.

He also lectured in engineering at university, and both Roots and Hoover would fly him all over the world to troubleshoot their equipment.

However, he didn't have a degree himself.

You can tell him he isn't a real engineer if you like. The old boy is in his late 80s, but I don't have the bottle.
 
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Well Gordon I do . I did a degree in chemical process engineering . It was a lot of thermodynamics, fluid dynamics and lots of maths. And some chemistry. Entropy, enthalpy Gibbs free energy...... Tensor calculus, Fourier transform infrared mass spectrometry...... .
Oh also did some PhD research on fuel cell technology . Sodium borahydride and methanol.
 
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its a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.

.....Booom! How do ya like them apples!! I'm not even an engineer, just a crash bang wallop installer.

took you long enough to google 🙂, I had heard of it, had to check though lol
 
its a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.

.....Booom! How do ya like them apples!! I'm not even an engineer, just a crash bang wallop installer.
Always thought you a know it all 🙂
 
Well Gordon I do . I did a degree in chemical process engineering . It was a lot of thermodynamics, fluid dynamics and lots of maths. And some chemistry. Entropy, enthalpy Gibbs free energy...... Tensor calculus, Fourier transform infrared mass spectrometry...... .

I know what makes a cow fart! years of training and hard work to learn that 🙂
 
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Syllables?
is an English sweet dish described by the Oxford English Dictionary as "A drink or dish made of milk or cream, curdled by the admixture of wine, cider, or other acid, and often sweetened and flavoured."

nice!
 
Syllables?
is an English sweet dish described by the Oxford English Dictionary as "A drink or dish made of milk or cream, curdled by the admixture of wine, cider, or other acid, and often sweetened and flavoured."

nice!


.... That's syllabub you tool. ...
 
<Rant> / <Rant Over> Well that livened up the discussion 🙂

I have plenty of respect for those that know their trade, else I couldn't do my job 🙂 I employ and rely on their expertise to do their job right first time.

And I know that 99% of you could solder a pipe a million times better than me.

What gets my goat is that far far too many times we have to go and fix badly designed and badly installed systems where the original installer just doesn't want to know after they've been paid...

Every one of you can do something better than me, and I can learn something from each of you.
 
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<Rant> / <Rant Over> Well that livened up the discussion 🙂

I have plenty of respect for those that know their trade, else I couldn't do my job 🙂 I employ and rely on their expertise to do their job right first time.

And I know that 99% of you could solder a pipe a million times better than me.

What gets my goat is that far far too many times we have to go and fix badly designed and badly installed systems where the original installer just doesn't want to know after they've been paid...

Every one of you can do something better than me, and I can learn something from each of you.

you learned what entropy is 🙂
 
I deliberately call myself plumber, even though I work mainly in commercial heating and pipefitting, because by giving ourselves other crazy titles we take away from what a plumber is, I'm an nvq level 3 plumber and I was trained in heating and got my gas acs so why should we confuse the public with "heating engineer" plumber should cover it. The public should know that a plumber means the person who takes care of any mechanical services in your property gas, heating, domestic water or drainage that's what we're trained to do not just bathroom fitter or gas fitter. Dumbs the job down
 
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Plumber..Even though i know customers have got a mental image of me and a drain rod over my shoulder like Dick Van dyke when i say that.
 
Plumber or gas man.

It still bugs me though when I'm on a job say doing a bathroom and the customer asks if I know any heating engineers or vice versa. If I went to uni and got a degree in engineering then I would feel more comfortable calling myself an engineer!
 
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Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

<Rant Over>

I had one of those in hospital, couldn't believe how far they stuck it up there!




I call myself a heating engineer because that's what the industry has known the job I do as. I agree that technician would suit the role far better, but calling myself a technician just sounds like I'm trying be different!

I'm not a plumber because I'm not qualified to call myself that. My city and guilds is in gas installation and maintenance or something like that. I think it may actually have engineering in the title somewhere! I'll have a look tonight

I couldn't really care to be honest providing my customer can understand what I do (or don't do)

I can understand why qualified engineers get annoyed by it, but then they're all willy waivers who live in the world of theory as opposed to real life activity! :lol:



I actually looked into doing OU degrees in my spare time until I realised most of the course probably wouldn't be used in a real world situation.
 
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Heating Engineer because that's what I specialise in.
Gas Engineer
Plumber but I keep away from plumbing out of choice because I like playing with boilers and heating systems.
 
I've got a cerfiticate that says I'm a mechanical services engineer...

Plumbing and heating engineer is fine by me
 
If you want to call yourself just a 'plumber' while a lot of monkeys out there with little or no experience, OR those capable but who just want to do bad work, but call themselves 'Engineers', then I think you are underselling yourself. First impressions of you from a potential customer is your job title. 'Plumber' says to me less skilled, plus possibly someone who can't do heating work.

My City & Guilds certificates say-
Plumbing Craft.
Plumbing Advanced Craft.
If you have the same qualifications you will know what was covered in the four years of this course.

i call myself a Plumber, and I'm proud of that job title.

Plumber says to you less skilled, very odd ???
 
I'm a maintenance plumber at a well known London uni. Not done my NVQ but got my C&G Lvl 2. I'm actually wondering if most employers actually know the difference between a certificate and an NVQ but oh well I get the work done 😀

Might do a few small private jobs to get my NVQ signed, how would I go about starting this?
 

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