New member, can someone help check quality of this boiler install?

[ShaunCorbs]

Didn't mean to do that was trying to quote. Still getting used to this new forum haha

😀 you got harvest all excited

 

[robbb]

Hi. Am contacting local plumbers to try to get all of this mess resolved.

 

[robbb]

Slightly off topic but is an 18kw enough for 12 rads and hot water? Smaller ones in bedroom, 3 of them towel rails.

 

[townfanjon]

😀 you got harvest all excited

It doesnt take much lol

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Slightly off topic but is an 18kw enough for 12 rads and hot water? Smaller ones in bedroom, 3 of them tower rails.

I would say your close too close needs working out

Heat loss each room and add 3-5kw for a copper cylinder or 15-20kw for an unvented one

 

[robbb]

I would say your close too close needs working out

Heat loss each room and add 3-5kw for a copper cylinder or 15-20kw for an unvented one

I would say your close too close needs working out

Heat loss each room and add 3-5kw for a copper cylinder or 15-20kw for an unvented one

Just added up all the current rads in the house using a KW calculator, came out as just over 10kw currently. Upstairs have older 600 x 400 single panels that seem to put out about 0.35 kw each. Should have a bit of headroom with 18KW.

 

[helpsy]

If in time the coil was to pinhole in the cylinder the primary water would contaminate the secondary water. Also it wouldn't meet the regs regarding support of the cisterns from memory.

 

[Ric2013]

If in time the coil was to pinhole in the cylinder the primary water would contaminate the secondary water.

Exactly what would happen with a sealed system. I agree that it is better to have the cold water storage cistern at a higher pressure (height) than the F & E, but I asked this question on this forum and consensus was that there is no regulation on this (and, in this case, it would not really be practical to raise the existing cold water storage cistern to a higher level just in case, one day, the coil fails). I would have done the same as the installer has done.

Also it wouldn't meet the regs regarding support of the cisterns from memory.

Cistern must be fully supported on close boarding. Which the F & E seems to be. Looks like chipboard or OSB where I would prefer to see 18mm hardwood ply, but perhaps it's a matter of preference. The boarding is on three supports, so it won't be going anywhere, after all.

I am, though, suspicious that the combined cold feed and vent pipe coming out of it may not slope down away from the cistern as it should do. I would also expect the cistern to be lidded and well lagged when the work is completed.

 

[robbb]

Ok have sacked the guy and issued a notice for refund. Will see how we get on with that.

Had a separate emergency quote for relocation back to the original place (airing cupboard) by reputable company.

£2k is the cost. Is this reasonable?

 

[Harvest Fields]

You will find that most engineers will treat it as a complete new install. Even though the boiler is already there. Seems a little high but depends on what you are getting for that?

 

[robbb]

You will find that most engineers will treat it as a complete new install. Even though the boiler is already there. Seems a little high but depends on what you are getting for that?

Moving everything back down to the airing cupboard below, repiping etc. 2 guys.

 

[robbb]

Likely has a premium added to it as they can do it on Friday.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

This time of year I would be questioning who can do it that quick

Most of the good ones are busy

 

[deg]

You will pay a higher price as your new plumber will know there has been previous plumber working on the system and will be wanting to cover his bum

 

[SavageW]

Looking at the right hand new copper pipe 22mm,it reduces to 15mm to an existing painted pipe,is that the gas?

 

[SavageW]

Looking at the pipework layout an then the photo of your airing cupboard I do think that’s the gas pipe

 

[robbb]

Ok. I think I have a serious problem!

I don’t think the fitter was Gas Safe And was relying on a 3rd party to ‘commission’ the boiler as he has put it.

I served him a 3 page letter today detailing that we would be terminating any further work as it was not up to standard and a request for a refund for the money that we had already paid.

My worry is that this has been illegally installed. I have paid about £1350 for the boiler, pump, flue etc and he was to install for free due to the damage caused to the initial boiler that was not part of the original work.

So I’m left with a installed boiler that has potentially been illegally installed (I’ve asked exactly who did it and am waiting for a response’).

His text today ‘The boiler is complete, just needs commissioning and the wiring sorted as the condense pump has been removed and the boiler repositioned, being a different boiler the current cables are different’.

Thoughts? Local guy that I earlier found can no longer do the work!

 

[robbb]

View attachment 31958
Looking at the pipework layout an then the photo of your airing cupboard I do think that’s the gas pipe

Yes looks like he’s fit a 22mm feed to the boiler from the 15mm in airing cupboard.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I would get gas safe out asap least if he is not registered there will be a report

Have you asked him for his gas safe reg ?

 

[robbb]

I would get gas safe out asap least if he is not registered there will be a report

Have you asked him for his gas safe reg ?

I’ve asked him whom installed. I’ve got a feeling he is not Gas safe. He’s already confirmed that he removed cover from broken boiler to me via text so potentially broken law already.