non paying customers

[Centralheatking]

WE have had a few probs regarding non payments over the past 35 years +

they fall into several areas 1. we messed up - rare
2. they wont pay
3. they cant pay

My Mrs is a barrister but if you can avoid court its best - even if it means making a deal
for a little bit less in cash or a few staged payments.

Mind you the last fella that gave us grief - his Mrs paid up straightaway when i suggested
I was going to knock on all their neighbours doors and explain they were not paying me for honest completed work Centralheatking

 

[cr0ft]

Get a small incense pot. Turd in it or better still, if you have a dog or cat fill it with their turd. Light it. Using the chain they come with lower it through their letterbox.

Turn off their stoptap in the street during the dead of night. Fill chamber with cement. Laugh evilly.

Let down the tyres of any vehicles on the drive in the dead of night again. Stab each tyre with a stanley knife. Leave property.

Urinate through their letter box during the night. Make sure they do not have a dog before doing this.

Find the nearest drainage inspection chamber to the street on their property. Fill the outlet with cement, use a drain rod to push it as far down the drain as you possibly can. On completion of this, connect up their loft tank overflows to the rainwater downpipes and have the last laugh next time it rains and the water backflows into their loft.

Turn up at their work and tell the reception staff you are there to get paid by their employee.

Get a female friend to turn up at their wife's work and explain that they are feeling incredibly guilty about the affair they have been having with the man of the house.

Buy some live crickets from any pet shop that sells lizards. Post them through their letter box.

Sign them up for a free sample of Tena incontinence pads for Men/Women as appropriate.

None of these will help you get your money back but they will make it feel like less of a knock. And quite possibly land you in prison if you get caught!

 

[JAH HEATING]

Tell them, their double glazing costs a lot more than what you are rightfully owed

 

[mfgs]

After my email earlier he is now offering to pay the labour cost but not for any materials until I send him copies of my receipts, what a massive pain in the arse. I want to go and smack him in the mouth haha.

 

[tamz]

Just send them to him, get paid then drop him in the shyt next time he phones you.

 

[helpsy]

On a different note I think this is where a card machine also earns it's keep as the customer has to bring any issues up with you there and then really to avoid payment.

 

[tamz]

Then there is chargeback. A whole different world of shyt that is harder to overcome.

 

[helpsy]

Surely they would then be on the spot to raise any issues though?!

 

[Reg Man]

Quote>also state that all materials remain my property till all invoices are settled in full! again I don't think this stands up to much in court but its got go in your favor!!<Quote. This does not stand up under contract law. Once you have entered a contract, which is when you have agreement to go forward with the work, any materials delivered to the job are in essence part of of the contract and therefore tied up. You will be breaking the law if you try to retrieve them in anyway other than contractually dispute and resolution.

 

[tamz]

Civil law tho Steve. The polis won't be interested unless you kicked the door in.

I have experience of this a few years back.

 

[tamz]

Surely they would then be on the spot to raise any issues though?!

They have 120 days to raise an issue with their card company. If paid by credit card and over £100 it is a section 75. Same result for you. You need a Philadelphia lawyer to sort it out and the end result is usually you loose.
Cash is king :smile:

 

[Reg Man]

Only becomes criminal law if you retrieve those materials once delivered to site and they are tied into a contract. In effect you are therefore also in breach of contract and it will not go well for you. It is classed as theft even though you have not been paid for the materials.

 

[tamz]

Best one i evere heard of was a local plumber who had fitted a bathroom for a woman.
She wouldn't pay, always coming up with some excuse of something wasn't right.
After a few months of return calls he called out one night and had a sit down with the woman and her man and they went through everything with a fine toothcomb and wrote down every single thing they were using as an excuse for not paying down to the spec of dust in the corner.

It was agreed he would come back the following week and go through the list to their satisfaction.
The guy turned up the next week with another lad and told the woman they would have to turn the water off for a bit.
They then stripped the bathroom out put it in the van and capped the pipes.
He then went downstairs turned the water on and said he had to dash as he had an emergency call and would be back later.
Never got to the end of the street before she was on the phone screaming.
The end result was she had to shyt in a bucket for a week and get a new bathroom.
Nothing ever came of the legal threats.

 

[Howsie]

Many a pan, basin and bath has been uninstalled with a hammer. Occasionally a kneecap or two just for the fun.

 

[tamz]

Only becomes criminal law if you retrieve those materials once delivered to site and they are tied into a contract. In effect you are therefore also in breach of contract and it will not go well for you. It is classed as theft even though you have not been paid for the materials.

It is classed as a civil case up here Steve. No laws are broken if you are invited in or in my case i had keys. The police are not interested other than paying a visit and noting it down.
Civil cases are not cheap to bring so most will cut their losses as you have had to do.
You may get the odd one who will pursue it but if you think they would there are always other ways if you want things to get nasty and don't have a conscience.

 

[Reg Man]

Its where civil cases cross the line to criminal. Most Police forces don't get involved because they have much more important things to deal with. But statute stands and is normally dealt with under civil courts. Its a matter of the contractor is probably right but, should follow the correct procedure in dispute and resolution in contract issues.

 

[tamz]

Never any comeback

I'm just being silly now :lol:

 

[Reg Man]

Is that a rowing oar? Most people use a baseball bat. So that is really silly.

 

[tamz]

Its a pick shaft. More effective than a baseball bat as it is heavier :smile:

 

[Reg Man]

ouch!