Power flush

[kay-jay]

I agree tom. Mind numbing job but its money for old rope once you've got the gear.

 

[Barry98]

its the first thing that gets connected once drained down return flow linked while one cracks on with the install of boiler

 

[Stuthewarrior]

Did I miss the price how much were they charging ?

 

[TBServices]

its the first thing that gets connected once drained down return flow linked while one cracks on with the install of boiler

You do it cold then lee? How do you find time to run round all rads while fitting boiler?

 

[Barry98]

Lackie does that

 

[petercj]

The truth is that everything to do with powerflushing is overpriced, starting with the machines used, which basically comprise a pump connected to a plastic tub, with some valves, and a few pipes. 1k+ is a ridiculous price for something so simple.

The 800 pounds charged by BG is also a ridiculous price, but in the free market it seems there is no such thing as overcharging - 300 quid for the powerflush, and 500 quid for the BGBS!

The return on initial investment, even at 300 pounds a throw, is very good on a piece of kit costing between 1k and 1500 pounds.

Powerflushing is a first year apprentice job: requires the ability to use a wrench, a few grams of common sense, and the ability not to fall asleep on the job. Recognising the risks with a weak system is probably the most skilled bit involved.

Anyone looking for a low-cost start can set themselves up in business with a small van, an overpriced powerflush machine (with a one day training course), and enough business acumen to get the show on the road.

 

[Leo21]

The truth is that everything to do with powerflushing is overpriced, starting with the machines used, which basically comprise a pump connected to a plastic tub, with some valves, and a few pipes. 1k+ is a ridiculous price for something so simple.

The 800 pounds charged by BG is also a ridiculous price, but in the free market it seems there is no such thing as overcharging - 300 quid for the powerflush, and 500 quid for the BGBS!

The return on initial investment, even at 300 pounds a throw, is very good on a piece of kit costing between 1k and 1500 pounds.

Powerflushing is a first year apprentice job: requires the ability to use a wrench, a few grams of common sense, and the ability not to fall asleep on the job. Recognising the risks with a weak system is probably the most skilled bit involved.

Anyone looking for a low-cost start can set themselves up in business with a small van, an overpriced powerflush machine (with a one day training course), and enough business acumen to get the show on the road.

Thats really helpfull on the open forum.

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

Thats really helpfull on the open forum.

Agreed

 

[petercj]

Thats really helpfull on the open forum.

Can't see why it should be a problem to anyone pricing up jobs competitively - not so good for BG maybe, but then there's plenty worse about BG on this site.

Anyone shopping around will find that what I have said is more than reasonable - I think there are quite a few people on here out of touch with the going rates for such work, which might help to explain why they are sat on the net instead of working.

 

[Leo21]

I'm very busy thanks. Encouraging people to start up in power flushing! Personally I think it's more skilled than you make out. Different size rad valves, different types of boilers. Some of which can be damaged if not prepared correctly, running boilers dry, getting rid of air locks, etc, etc.

 

[AWheating]

the customer makes the choice, you get what you pay for.

 

[petercj]

I'm very busy thanks. Encouraging people to start up in power flushing! Personally I think it's more skilled than you make out. Different size rad valves, different types of boilers. Some of which can be damaged if not prepared correctly, running boilers dry, getting rid of air locks, etc, etc.

Have you read the rest of the thread, the majority of the posts are in a similar vein - "lackie does it' ... "money for old rope" ... etc. Strange that you think I'm giving secrets away!

I do think it's a good investment for anyone starting out, such as people with level 2 NVQ and the like, who often post on the board - what's wrong with that?

Doubt that I've triggered a wave of start-up new businesses in the UK that are going to drain work away from the plumbing trade.

 

[Toxic Ted]

Gerald Ratner springs to mind.

 

[AWheating]

who dat?

 

[Destroyer2813]

Have you read the rest of the thread, the majority of the posts are in a similar vein - "lackie does it' ... "money for old rope" ... etc. Strange that you think I'm giving secrets away!

I do think it's a good investment for anyone starting out, such as people with level 2 NVQ and the like, who often post on the board - what's wrong with that?

Doubt that I've triggered a wave of start-up new businesses in the UK that are going to drain work away from the plumbing trade.[/QUOTE

So how are these new people supposed to know what causes the symptoms for needing a flush in the firstt place?

 

[Toxic Ted]

Google him

 

[AWheating]

Google him

i only google after the third date.

 

[petercj]

Gerald Ratner springs to mind.

When Ratner was asked in a live interview about how he was able to sell jewelry so cheaply, he said: "because it's rubbish!"

I don't see anyone on this thread denigrating the value of powerflushing, i.e. questioning that it's not the best way to clean out sludge from a CH system. The issue is what is a reasonable charge. Other than BG staff, I don't think many plumbers would argue that 800 quid is a reasonable charge.

It's not the same thing as: "Doing a Ratner" - which is used now to describe rubbishing your own product.

 

[petercj]

Have you read the rest of the thread, the majority of the posts are in a similar vein - "lackie does it' ... "money for old rope" ... etc. Strange that you think I'm giving secrets away!

I do think it's a good investment for anyone starting out, such as people with level 2 NVQ and the like, who often post on the board - what's wrong with that?

Doubt that I've triggered a wave of start-up new businesses in the UK that are going to drain work away from the plumbing trade.[/QUOTE

So how are these new people supposed to know what causes the symptoms for needing a flush in the firstt place?

Probably by placing their hand on the lower part of the radiators to feel for cold spots, like most people do.

Or they could impress the customer by using one of those flashy IR thermometers like the bloke on You Tube.

 

[AWheating]

you can also do the trouser snake tests as i offten hear engineers say around by me. never tired it myself.