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Other than cost, oversizing in my opinion is not such a massive problem, it allows for lower flow temps and giving the same amount of heat into the room.

whilst heating up much more water in the process. how does a bigger rad allow for lower running temps???? you control the temp at the boiler
 
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right tamz. as this is my first big quote on my own i asked the guy who taught me how much to quote roughly. he said 4k for just labour. if it did take me a week, i think the client would be wondering about the quote. Although, they are getting in someone else to quote as well.

But the thing is, the builder who is running the project is more likely to come to me as he uses me all the time
 
and the electrician who is doing a whole re-wire said 3 weeks and 3,1/2k for labour. and the builder has got labourers in to chase all walls and so on. So i don't want to be much cheaper than him as its just the same amount of work i thinks?????
 
New EU regulations come into force next year re sizing. They take into account the behaviour of inhabitants and calorie burn.

The assessment involves a questionnaire that is mandatory and must record certain information in relation to all occupants, such as: how much time they spend watching TV, and use of the remote; how many times a-week they have sex; how much time they spend arguing; whether the kids are HDD, etc.

Apparently, research shows that randy parents with six rowdy kids who fight over the remote require 50% less heat input per square metre than a couple who live the quiet life.

Assessors will need to register, and be able to show that they have level one C&G 6372 in counselling, and Relate 217 in mediation skills.

The Government are calling it the: 'Small Clean & Green Radiator Assessor's Program', or SCRAP for short.

Watch this space for more details.
 
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New EU regulations come into force next year re sizing. They take into account the behaviour of inhabitants and calorie burn.

The assessment involves a questionnaire that is mandatory and must record certain information in relation to all occupants, such as: how much time they spend watching TV, and use of the remote; how many times a-week they have sex; how much time they spend arguing; whether the kids are HDD, etc.

Apparently, research shows that randy parents with six rowdy kids who fight over the remote require 50% less heat input per square metre than a couple who live the quiet life.

Assessors will need to register, and be able to show that they have level one C&G 6372 in counselling, and Relate 217 in mediation skills.

The Government are calling it the: 'Small Clean & Green Radiator Assessor's Program', or SCRAP for short.


Watch this space for more details.
Absolute brilliant Peter. Well Done
 
how does a bigger rad allow for lower running temps????

You set the boiler 'stat lower to account for the fact that a larger emitter will require a lower temperature to put the same amount of energy into the room.

Obviously this assumes that all the emitters are oversized.
 
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You set the boiler 'stat lower to account for the fact that a larger emitter will require a lower temperature to put the same amount of energy into the room.

Obviously this assumes that all the emitters are oversized.

not oversized but sized correctly for the correct running temps.

rad schedules allow for correct running temps so no need to oversize anything
 
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It would take me 2 days on my own, 2 1/2 if i paced myself but i don't price things on a day rate:smile:

A week should do it easily. Just think ahead of what you are doing and it all falls into place.

2 days is seriously impressive. I would love to see it done, I have never known or worked with anyone that could do that amount of work in that time. Personally I would be thinking about 5-7 days to do it.
 
It would take me 2 days on my own, 2 1/2 if i paced myself but i don't price things on a day rate:smile:

A week should do it easily. Just think ahead of what you are doing and it all falls into place.
Its amazing how quick you can be now, using the plastic piping systems isn't it Tamz !! are you still working em 27.5 hour days ??
 
2 days is seriously impressive. I would love to see it done, I have never known or worked with anyone that could do that amount of work in that time. Personally I would be thinking about 5-7 days to do it.

It is even harder doing 1 a day (2 men) for years on end with a clerk of works going over them with a fine tooth comb (because he hates subbies) picking you up for a dirty handprint on the wall because he can find nothing else to complain about.
You get used to it and the money is ok :lol:
The body is too old for doing it every day now. It is a young mans game but there are lots of good guys out there doing just that every day.
 
Its amazing how quick you can be now, using the plastic piping systems isn't it Tamz !! are you still working em 27.5 hour days ??

I don't use shyte Chris. Strictly copper.

At one time i was doing tenement flats, 6 rads and a combi and was back in the house for 2 every day..........loadsamoney :lol:
 
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he he am glad to hear you use copper. Well i think i am going to go in between what my old boss says and what you guys say and go for 2 weeks at £300 a day. it is london after all.

i take my hat off to you tamz. i don't know how old you are but i am young and i could never imagine doing it that fast. i would like to though, and still charge the 3k.

I wonder what BG would charge for a whole house install
 
a nice watch i hope!! It is hard when your day rate is usually 200. But then i don't want to over price and especially under price. Quoting is just as difficult as plumbing. never an easy job!!!
 
he he am glad to hear you use copper. Well i think i am going to go in between what my old boss says and what you guys say and go for 2 weeks at £300 a day. it is london after all.

i take my hat off to you tamz. i don't know how old you are but i am young and i could never imagine doing it that fast. i would like to though, and still charge the 3k.

I wonder what BG would charge for a whole house install

55 in 4 weeks.
Speed comes the more you do and i must have done around 5000. Also if you know how houses are built that saves you lots of wasted time and todays power tools (i wish i had half the gear i have now 30 years ago) speed things up too.

BG would take around £9k+ depending on what mood they are in.
 
i dont think its wise to get too hung up on speed. some newbies think the faster you are the better you are and aim to compete
 

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