I will cite religion too
There has been more people killed in the name of religion than any one disease in the world
Yes indeed. But we've moved on from that so I hardly think that is a relevant point.
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I will cite religion too
There has been more people killed in the name of religion than any one disease in the world
never knew that ,
never sure tho if its a good thing tampering with nature sometimes think as nasty as some things are its there for a reason
Yes indeed. But we've moved on from that so I hardly think that is a relevant point.
This thread has already gone wildly off-topic at times so why not just change the title to the one I proposed? That's if everyone agrees like?
what like
'have i got news for you'
so because I've been to EDL marches would you class me as an extremist? Genuine question?
you also believe that people have been brainwashed by the media, I would argue you have to.
as in rather than witness the EDL for yourself and make your own opinion you believe all the rubbish published in the media and make a judgement that way.
just like to say nothing personal with anyone on here but I'm sick of everyone branding everyone that's been with EDL as the same, the majority are good lads, but as always only the negative will get reported, that's what sells the papers.
im English, I've got no problem whatsoever with foreign people of any race or whatever coming here as long as they respect our history and what we hold dear. I was raised to always respect our heroes and it breaks my heart when people are allowed to abuse them
I will cite religion too
There has been more people killed in the name of religion than any one disease in the world
No I wouldn't class you as an extremist. But i base my opinion on what I've read about the EDL what ive been told and what I've seen
I wouldn't go to an EDL meeting as I have no interest in what they stand for and who leads them.
Who are our heros and who abuses them?
If its wasn't religion, it would be something else.
There seems to be something in human nature that makes us essentially tribal, and prone to ganging up with "people like us" to kill, maim, rape and rob "those others".
Religion has been one rallying cry, but there have been others. More recently we have done the same thing in pursuit of political ideology - Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot - they all killed millions. In Mao and Stalin's case, tens of millions. In the past, the likes of Tamerlane and Genghis Khan killed hundreds of thousands and millions respectively, pretty much for just "not being like us".
I don't have the stats to hand, but I think that the plague, malaria, sleeping sickness, spanish flu and cholera have all done their bit to keep the population in check.
The soldiers on there homecoming parades being harassed and verbally abused by Islamic extremists
The soldier brutally butchered by Islamic extremists on a British street
This is the extreme and is unacceptable but are you really more concerned about this or
1) we pay nurses a pittance
2) are old people cant get enough heat in their homes in the winter
3) we have more homeless service people on our streets than ever
4) loads of other things
We tend to focus on the wrong things, mainly encouraged by the media.
We wasn't taking about them
I don't agree with this personally.
I don't agree with this personally.
dont agree on pasting this on here as slanderous and breaking just about every privacy law their is
Exactly but they are all a bigger problem than what has just happened but we don't care.
Bigger problem than a mum an being butchered in the street
Murders in cold blood are not a big problem for you then!!!!
I agree with alot of whats said about edl knuckle draggers but I really dont agree posting a list of names and details with zero proof. The same lot done this with supposed bnp members and they turned out to be anything but !!
Sorry but just dont agree as its saying guilty before any proof
Just to be clear Hammer. I agree with them posting these details, just as I don't agree with a lot of the things the EDL say/do. That's why this is such a great country, I have the right to do both.
Just to be clear Hammer. I don't agree with them posting these details, just as I don't agree with a lot of the things the EDL say/do. That's why this is such a great country, I have the right to do both.
Bigger problem than a mum an being butchered in the street
Murders in cold blood are not a big problem for you then!!!!
Bigger problem than a mum an being butchered in the street
Murders in cold blood are not a big problem for you then!!!!
is my name on there?
oh, sorry mines on the other EDL list................ elongated dick league. 😉
Youve provided a link to access as bad as imho
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( off topic I forgot how easy and how much time you get gas servicing)
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( off topic I forgot how easy and how much time you get gas servicing)
They did do this with the bnp and it turned out the majority of the names linked had absolutely no link's what sp ever to the bnp . This anonymous lot are a bincj of dangerous idiots
Howsie;50it377 said:So what I did isn't now against the law or slanderous? Make up your mind.
Where did I say it isnt against the law
Your clutching at straws lol
All murders are a problem for me, all of them. I don't see anyone protesting about the murders of Kevin Benett or April Jones, yet clearly the problem underlying these murders cause more deaths/problems in the UK.
I'm not entirely convinced 'Anonymous' is what people think it is. It wouldn't surprise me if certain servants of the state are the ones actually pulling the strings.
Also, I have a problem with people being murdered, especially when they're being murdered on foreign soil where we have just cause for doing so. Terror threat my bum.
You don't think Afghanistan is a terror threat
Lol what ever you think big lad
Actually mate, Afghanistan never did pose an international terrorist threat. After driving the USSR out the Taliban were quite happily oppressing their own people and growing opium. The only reason Afghanistan got dragged into the so-called "war on terror" was because Bin Laden was hiding there. The US could easily have sent in the Navy Seals to take him out without "bombing them back to the stone age" as Dubya so charmingly described it.
By bombing and invading Afghanistan and Iraq on false pretences, the US and UK have given ammunition to the radicals. They now have fuel for their rhetoric and examples of how the western infidels are attacking Islam. And that is how home-grown British Muslims become radicalised, non-Muslims become converted, and the cycle is perpetuated.
Actually mate, Afghanistan never did pose an international terrorist threat. After driving the USSR out the Taliban were quite happily oppressing their own people and growing opium. The only reason Afghanistan got dragged into the so-called "war on terror" was because Bin Laden was hiding there. The US could easily have sent in the Navy Seals to take him out without "bombing them back to the stone age" as Dubya so charmingly described it.
By bombing and invading Afghanistan and Iraq on false pretences, the US and UK have given ammunition to the radicals. They now have fuel for their rhetoric and examples of how the western infidels are attacking Islam. And that is how home-grown British Muslims become radicalised, non-Muslims become converted, and the cycle is perpetuated.
The Taliban banned poppy cultivation in July 2000. This year Afghanistan is expecting a record opium crop.
Though we all decleared peace a few pages ago ;-)
Lol you mean they said they did
The Talibans' anti narcotics officers would imprison poppy farmers until they agreed to destroy their crops and grow something else. The Taliban leader, Mullah Omah banned poppy growing and even augmented it with a religious edict making it contrary to the tenets of Islam.
As for 'who said it' - the UN Drug Control Program did. They sent a team, in early 2001, to Afghanistan to check out what impact the Afghan poppy crops were having on the world's supply of heroin and found that under the Taliban it had all but been completely erradicated.
With American help later that year the poppy farmers were back in business.
The Talibans' anti narcotics officers would imprison poppy farmers until they agreed to destroy their crops and grow something else. The Taliban leader, Mullah Omah banned poppy growing and even augmented it with a religious edict making it contrary to the tenets of Islam.
As for 'who said it' - the UN Drug Control Program did. They sent a team, in early 2001, to Afghanistan to check out what impact the Afghan poppy crops were having on the world's supply of heroin and found that under the Taliban it had all but been completely erradicated.
"some people believe that certain parties benefited from the price increase during the ban. Some even believe it was a form of Market manipulation on the part of certain drug lords. Dried opium, unlike most agricultural products, can easily be stored for long periods without refrigeration or other expensive equipment. With huge stashes of opium stored in secret hideaways. Taliban, and other groups became involved in the drug trade were in theory able to make huge personal profits during the price spikes after the 2000 ban and the chaos following 9/11.[SUP][17][/SUP][SUP][18][/SUP] "
I have no idea how this thread ended up on poppy production. But the Taliban were and are the worlds biggest drug dealers. I'm sure the Yanks and us too have been useless and probably corrupt and made the situation worse, but the Taliban are filth and people shouldn't forget it.
Lol so it's America that's the opium/ heroin dealers sorry I didn't know that
So my mates that have served in Afghanistan in last few years where lying to me when they say they saw first hand that the farmers are payed more for the opium crops by the Taliban than they could make growing crops
And the millions the American DEA spend burning crops is just make belive
Have you been to Afghanistan to see it first hand or are you just reading this rubbish
Keefy you belive what you want and ill belive what I want simple
This was an official UN investigation as reported at the time by the Associated Press. Maybe the Taliban are growing it now, maybe it's the only way they can afford to keep fighting these days but when they were in power they banned it outright and even sought the UN's help to get their farmers to grow other types of crops to help make the country more self sufficient.
And you don't think these un investigation can be set up to look that way to the investigation teams
Lol and I bet the Taliban was given in money to help them at the time also
Like I have said you belive what you want ill belive the people I know who have been there and done it
Re. your first statement: I did not know that and haven't read that. Where have you read this?
only Q i see is this
was on bbc news yesterday t.v and internet
doubt you even looked
Which mum are you talking about? I'm slightly confused.
Re. your first statement: I did not know that and haven't read that. Where have you read this?
Not answered.
You don't read much then
Scroll up I said mum = human
Answered
read them its in writing
refer to 188-249-276
unless you wish to back track
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