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got a call to fit a tiger loop to a 8-10 year old wb boiler. Arrived, boiler working ok and has been for the whole of its life until, watsons last filled the tank and it started to lock out intermittently. So as the old lass is on their maintenance plan, they have been out swapping parts several times and on last call the techie stated the oil line is sucking in air stick a tiger loop on it! So muggins got a call and had a look, top entry tank and the connectors been hit as loads of heldite been added recently, all the visible joints look good, filter certainly hasnt been touched in years! Boiler was fine when I was there and so i showed the lass how to work her timer, put new batteries in her room stat which wasnt working and explained how it should run. Noted the supply line should have been 6mm due to suction heights and length but its been fine for 10 years. Main issue in fitting a tiger loop was it was a mobile home, surrounded underneath with bricks so no access, hence why watsons ran off! and boiler in centre of home so no access for piping at all.

So off i went advising her son in law to get watsons to find the intermittant fault and resolve it. ok the tiger loop should have been fitted initially, but its been fine till their boy battered the fill point and oil line exit. My thoughts are a failing pump solenoid dropping out or the suction line in the tank has come loose, but the old dear is already paying for maintenance and shouldnt be having to cough twice. As for fitting a tiger loop to repair a leaky oil line, anyone else ever do this?

to cap it, 2 hours after i left it locked out, been running ok for a week!

any thoughts
 
I guess fitting a tigerloop would mean only one oil pipe & not as likely to leak. Other than that you would think that it should have been sorted what's actually wrong. I had one where the seal on the oil filter was letting in air.
I assume it's an electro oil burner? Solenoid, control box, transformer, motor capacitor, photocell, in that sort of order. Wonder what the guys replaced?
 
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That's where a second hand similar burner with oil pump set for 2 pipe operation would have found out if there was a burner fault.
 
Reminds me. Pulled a leaking boiler out yesterday. Must go whip the burner off.
 
I guess fitting a tigerloop would mean only one oil pipe & not as likely to leak. Other than that you would think that it should have been sorted what's actually wrong. I had one where the seal on the oil filter was letting in air.
I assume it's an electro oil burner? Solenoid, control box, transformer, motor capacitor, photocell, in that sort of order. Wonder what the guys replaced?

it has only one pipe now, no tiger loop on system, he only advised fitting one to cure/resolve problem of an air leak into pipework!
 
cheap arent they 🙂, i based my fees on them minus a bit when I started on oil. customers liked the cheap rates 🙂
 
Now this sounds like a time when you should be checking the vaccuum.....except I never have done. Must get my head round that. Checking that apparently should show up if you have an air issue.
 
Now this sounds like a time when you should be checking the vaccuum.....except I never have done. Must get my head round that. Checking that apparently should show up if you have an air issue.

I did think of that one bunker, cept the old girl has got a maintenance contract and I didnt want her paying twice for something they should already have done!!
I did see a valve on the oil line by the tank, look like a non return or anti syphon device, wondered if that had jammed, but couldnt reach it as the tank was surrounded in asbestos boarding!! as it was so close to the mobile homes all round!
 
i dont do oil,but had a old,diesel sherpa a few years back,diesel is not that dissimilar to oil ,it would cut out and refuse to restart but it was intermittent,driving me mad,sevral garages could not fix it ,i knew it was pulling in air somewhere,i spent a long,tedious weekend pulling the fuel system to bits,i found the leak,a tiny leak under the van on a joint,it was so small it would be easy to miss,only clue was the perfect chassis looked a different colour in this spot ,joint was dry though,repaired it,problem solved van ran perfectly from there in
 
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i dont do oil,but had a old,diesel sherpa a few years back,diesel is not that dissimilar to oil ,it would cut out and refuse to restart but it was intermittent,driving me mad,sevral garages could not fix it ,i knew it was pulling in air somewhere,i spent a long,tedious weekend pulling the fuel system to bits,i found the leak,a tiny leak under the van on a joint,it was so small it would be easy to miss,only clue was the perfect chassis looked a different colour in this spot ,joint was dry though,repaired it,problem solved van ran perfectly from there in

The old faithful sherpa Mark, when i was serving my time we had one, seems a lifetime ago,
 
i dont do oil,but had a old,diesel sherpa a few years back,diesel is not that dissimilar to oil ,it would cut out and refuse to restart but it was intermittent,driving me mad,sevral garages could not fix it ,i knew it was pulling in air somewhere,i spent a long,tedious weekend pulling the fuel system to bits,i found the leak,a tiny leak under the van on a joint,it was so small it would be easy to miss,only clue was the perfect chassis looked a different colour in this spot ,joint was dry though,repaired it,problem solved van ran perfectly from there in

you found and repaired the leak, seems watsons just stick an air extractor on to solve the problem, or rather they dont and bugger off expecting someone else to try and get it done where there is no access!! so my advice was to get them back out or cancel the contract and spend the money on someone else.
 
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