Gas Cert Work vs Installations?

[rossco]

Hi wondered if I could ask a question about preferences as a registered plumber?

In the process of developing a product for registered plumbers which in a nutshell collates requests for gas safety certificates from our network of customers and estate agents and offers them registered plumbers who are part of our network.

We can provide 5 - 10 certs per plumber per day based on the volume we have and for this volume we normally pay between £30 - £40 per certificate so roughly averages out about £200 - £300 a day plus any work you get out of condemed boilers etc..

I'm a little concerned about reliability of people turning up at time arranged with the client so I just wanted to find out whether there is a preference for certs over installations? And whether this level of work is too much for a single person in a day?

Appreciate any help

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Simple don't do more than 5 a day and increase the prices to around 70-100 a boiler service/ check

 

[Ben-gee]

I think that's what they are charging the customers Shaun, just paying the plumbers 30-40; just another one of those companies I suspect....

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I think that's what they are charging the customers Shaun, just paying the plumbers 30-40; just another one of those companies I suspect..

Your going to get bad service as they would need to do 10 a day no no time for travelling so your not going to guarantee times etc

 

[Ben-gee]

I could be wrong but I think OP wants to sit in an office and make a load of money by paying plumber half rates and then try to make him do twice as much work so he gets a good days money.
Don't know why anyone thinks this is morally acceptable.

 

[rpm]

Hi

In the process of developing a product for registered plumbers which in a nutshell collates requests for gas safety certificates from our network of customers and estate agents and offers them registered plumbers who are part of our network.

Appreciate any help

Load of smoke n mirrors going on here I reckon.
Why you asking about developing this product if you have a network of guys and the customer base already in place.

 

[rossco]

I customer base is for certification on the electrical, EPC, Legionella Risk assessment and Inspections side of things. I think there is more to it than just sitting in an office trying to make a load of money as you put it. These are customers we've spent many thousands of pounds to acquire and maintain a business relationship with let along thousands spent on software to facilitate our current business relationship.

 

[rpm]

These are customers we've spent many thousands of pounds to acquire and maintain a business relationship.

?

 

[SimonG]

???

 

[king of pipes]

You won't get many takers for £30 per service 4 a day is about the norm no more than 5 you need to up that significantly to attract the right candidates. Kop

 

[SimonG]

Top rate service at bottom rate pay is a sure fire recipe for failure.

 

[Last Plumber]

I customer base is for certification on the electrical, EPC, Legionella Risk assessment and Inspections side of things. I think there is more to it than just sitting in an office trying to make a load of money as you put it. These are customers we've spent many thousands of pounds to acquire and maintain a business relationship with let along thousands spent on software to facilitate our current business relationship.

With all due respect, the Engineers you are thinking of sub-contracting work to have spent many thousands of pounds and many years acquiring the qualifications, skills and knowledge it takes to do their job. On top of that they are the ones taking the responsibility. I think that you offering less than half of what the job is actually worth is why the above members think you're another 'give me a slice of your pie' company.
If I'm incorrect then I apologise but you must understand how it looks?
Not only do we hear it a lot on here but in the real world their are many companies (Estate agents are the main ones) who want to take all the profits out of the work involved and none of the responsibility.

 

[AMGasServices]

IMO estate agents or gas work brokers must be gas safe registreted by law then will make sure everything is done right.

 

[Scott_D]

What do you expect to be done at each appointment?
Boiler service?
Gas safety check?
How many appliances?

 

[Last Plumber]

IMO estate agents or gas work brokers must be gas safe registreted by law then will make sure everything is done right.

Good point. If they were responsible for the certificate, maybe they would be more interested in having the job done correctly as opposed to not caring, charging full knacker and paying less than half of it to the individual who does the work and puts their name on it.

 

[Harvest Fields]

I could be wrong but I think OP wants to sit in an office and make a load of money by paying plumber half rates and then try to make him do twice as much work so he gets a good days money.
Don't know why anyone thinks this is morally acceptable.

Why isn’t it? To the OP, I would like to
Say. You will find lots of engineers willing to
Work for 30/50 a cert. However, I doubt it will be on here.

 

[king of pipes]

In reality any small Gas safe business would not even consider your offer, I would charge more than £30 to a landlord to just issue a certificate that's without a service which is £60- £75 + parts to do a through job it takes 2 hours add in travelling time between jobs and revists for replacing parts it not cost effective . Kop

 

[sammathias]

10 'services' a day? Roughly 1.5 hours a service that's without factoring in travel time or problems. Simply you are not servicing a boiler at this point just merely a gas safety check and that's questionable.

 

[AMGasServices]

I know guys who work for liberty gas they do 10 jobs (cp12s) a day I think they’re on £20 per appliance.

They will do a gas fire and boiler in 30mins and away they go.

Me personally your looking at around 2 hours for a cp12 with a fire and boiler.

I would like to be as quick as them I need to ask them what do they have for breakfast.

 

[Scott_D]

I know guys who work for liberty gas they do 10 jobs (cp12s) a day I think they’re on £20 per appliance.

They will do a gas fire and boiler in 30mins and away they go.

Me personally your looking at around 2 hours for a cp12 with a fire and boiler.

I would like to be as quick as them I need to ask them what do they have for breakfast.

The funny thing is that when you do it properly the home owners thinks you are the cowboy.
How much longer will you be, the last guy was only here 10 minutes.
Why are you taking the cover off, the last guy didn't do that.
Why do you need to go in the loft, no body has ever been up there.
I don't know where my gas meter is, never been asked before