No central heating...new boiler

[gmartine]

I contacted him this morning he's in Wales, have asked another engineer to come on Friday . The only electrical parts the second installer touched is to install a new room thermostat, on original wiring (is this ok), new timer and sort out the spaghetti junction wiring.

In your orginal post you say the 3 way (port) has been replaced and you happen to know the model so it should be that installer that returns to correct it. Another engineer might justifiably say I'm not touching it but having said that Screwfix have a no quible returns policy so you should be able to get a refund or swap for a new unit.

 

[Riley]

I’m calling DIY

 

[Leeccc]

I’m calling DIY

Me? Noooo way, I wouldn't touch that kind of thing with a barge pole!!

 

[Leeccc]

In your orginal post you say the 3 way (port) has been replaced and you happen to know the model so it should be that installer that returns to correct it. Another engineer might justifiably say I'm not touching it but having said that Screwfix have a no quible returns policy so you should be able to get a refund or swap for a new unit.

Not sure it was that exact model, I do remember it was a flomaster, ill be abke to confirm exac model number when I get home, if the rain hasn't destroyed the box. Are flomasters notoriously bad?

 

[gmartine]

I might be fine, a half decent engineer should be able to diagnose and rectify your problems.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Not sure it was that exact model, I do remember it was a flomaster, ill be abke to confirm exac model number when I get home, if the rain hasn't destroyed the box. Are flomasters notoriously bad?

It's got some very bad reviews on Screwfix site, especially the ones off engineers/plumbers a number of whom have replaced it with Honeywell ones not long after installing. There's a reason they're so much cheaper.

 

[Leeccc]

It's got some very bad reviews on Screwfix site, especially the ones off engineers/plumbers a number of whom have replaced it with Honeywell ones not long after installing. There's a reason they're so much cheaper.

Just had a quick look...damn

 

[Riley]

So you weren’t told what he was fitting?? I don’t think any self respecting plumber would use those

 

[Leeccc]

So you weren’t told what he was fitting?? I don’t think any self respecting plumber would use those

I knew he was going to replace the 3 way, didn't think it ask what make etc. The one somehow was hanging off the pipe!

 

[Riley]

Just the motor??? The brass body was still in place I assume

 

[Leeccc]

Just the motor??? The brass body was still in place I assume

Yep the motor box was hanging off! How long it'd been like that I'll never know, there's a fair few things the previous owner of the house didn't do to their system.

 

[Riley]

My guess would be wrongly wired from day one and your engineer has just redone what was there. I bet if you pop the head off the new one the fuses stop blowing

 

[Leeccc]

My guess would be wrongly wired from day one and your engineer has just redone what was there. I bet if you pop the head off the new one the fuses stop blowing

He tidied up the wiring in the junction box in the airing cupboard, he said it was a spaghetti junction. Could well still be wrong perhaps?

 

[Murdoch]

He tidied up the wiring in the junction box in the airing cupboard, he said it was a spaghetti junction. Could well still be wrong perhaps?

You need to get him back ..................

 

[Leeccc]

You need to get him back ...

He's away at the moment🙁

 

[Murdoch]

He's away at the moment🙁

For how long?

 

[Riley]

The fact that he’s “tidied” it doesn’t mean he hasn’t just shoved it all back in, as it was before. I suspect someone (previous homeowner) found that valve was causing electrical issue and removed head

 

[Leeccc]

The fact that he’s “tidied” it doesn’t mean he hasn’t just shoved it all back in, as it was before. I suspect someone (previous homeowner) found that valve was causing electrical issue and removed head

He tried to reconnect it in case it somehow miraculously fell off it was knackered. The previous owners didn't even have the system flushed before fitting new boiler

 

[Riley]

Again could be poorly wired meaning the motor burned out. Please don’t ignore the fact that there could be a wiring fault

 

[Leeccc]

Again could be poorly wired meaning the motor burned out. Please don’t ignore the fact that there could be a wiring fault

No definitely won't be, ill show the other guy on Friday exactly what has been done, so he can go through his process of elimination

 

[Leeccc]

Again could be poorly wired meaning the motor burned out. Please don’t ignore the fact that there could be a wiring fault

It's permantley in this position?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Does it move easy to the wall (you will have to move the lever) etc when the heating or hot water is on ?

 

[Leeccc]

Does it move easy to the wall (you will have to move the lever) etc when the heating or hot water is on ?

I'll have a go in the morning as the system SHOULD wake up (fingers crossed). I did just turn boiler on and it was doing it's usual...lights on ,making noise ,no hot rads. So we'll see in the morning ‍♂️

 

[Riley]

It's permantley in this position?

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And the award for idiotic installation position goes to .......

So you’ll be changing the whole valve every time then rather than just the actuator if that darker copper pipe is as close as it looks😱😳

 

[Leeccc]

Does it move easy to the wall (you will have to move the lever) etc when the heating or hot water is on ?

Yep it was loose when I moved it towards the wall, with the heat and water on

 

[Riley]

So it could be permanntly on. Please just get an experienced heating engineer in to wire it properly

 

[Leeccc]

So it could be permanntly on. Please just get an experienced heating engineer in to wire it properly

Ok

 

[Leeccc]

So it could be permanntly on. Please just get an experienced heating engineer in to wire it properly

Just had a look in the airing cupboard while I await the engineer I noticed that the wires from the central heating pump and cylinder thermo are touching hot piping...could this potentially be a reason for tripping out? Or just previous shoddy workmanship

 

[Harvest Fields]

Just had a look in the airing cupboard while I await the engineer I noticed that the wires from the central heating pump and cylinder thermo are touching hot piping...could this potentially be a reason for tripping out? Or just previous shoddy workmanship

Wait for the engineer

 

[Leeccc]

Wait for the engineer

I await patiently......Something new happened to the system yesterday, as well as tripping out it also took out the sockets around the house.

 

[Riley]

Just had a look in the airing cupboard while I await the engineer I noticed that the wires from the central heating pump and cylinder thermo are touching hot piping...could this potentially be a reason for tripping out? Or just previous shoddy workmanship

Unless they’re bare wires I’d say no chance

 

[Leeccc]

Unless they’re bare wires I’d say no chance

Ok.

 

[Leeccc]

Unless they’re bare wires I’d say no chance

Loose wires

 

[Leeccc]

Unless they’re bare wires I’d say no chance

Someone didn't do a good job installing the boiler.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That would cause it to trip