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when buying 15 & 22mm e/f couplers, get the ones with a dimple rather than a crimp in the middle (the bit that stops the pipe).

as you can file the dimple and use them as slip couplers like for repairing nail holes in pipes where access is limited.
 
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always always always carry a spare gas bottle on your van..........
 
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When you forget your lighter always remeber to turn the gas down before you light your ciggarette of the blowtorch
 
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Understand how the water works and know how to turn it off in an emergency before you tackle a job. You don't always have to turn the water off to do every job (e.g. change a ball valve) but if something goes wrong (and it does) you need to know how to control the situation.

When cutting through a pipe/changing washer, drain down by opening a lower tap. For example, if changing a bathroom tap washer, turn off water then open downstairs tap then open bathroom tap. If you hear a suction noise, then you know the water's drained.

When turrning back on, check for air in each tap you've opened so customer doesn't get wet after you've left. If the water is cloudy it means there is still a potential for an air lock so keep stopping and running the water until it's clear.
 
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When you forget your lighter always remeber to turn the gas down before you light your ciggarette of the blowtorch


Make sure you have a hot ticket before you do this in someones loft space... 😉
 
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Be carefull when soldering near block. And dont use a grinder when you have heating oil on your knee pads :S
 
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A helpful one now, to rid airlocks in hot or cold open both taps whilst holding your hand over fosset, or use a section of hose
 
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stick a pipe clip on rad pipes when installing valves to prevent compression nuts sliding down and disappearing beneath the floor. or use a couple of wraps of ptfe around the pipe.

KJ
 
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always get money for meterials upfront so you dont get stung twice
 
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always check token meters for credit
 
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Always carry a 15 & 22mm speedfit stop end in your tool box. You don't want to make a mad dash to the van in case you need one in a hurry.

Don't over tighten compression fittings as you will crimp the olive too tight and it will weep.


Get into the habit of photographing work as you do it. Especially hidden pipe runs, and concealed work in general. It will make your life much easier if you ever have to revisit a job in the future.

Don't rely on a thermostatic rad valve to hold back the water. It may cool down in the room later and open up. Make sure you either cap the supply with a small length of 15mm pipe and a speedfit stop end, or use the correct cap on the valve head to completely close the valve.

A scaled up manometer can be cleaned with a bleach solution, left to soak over night. Flush through the next day and it will be nice and clean. I now fill mine with a Rothenberg fluid which never leaves a mark and is coloured.

If you're on a job, late call out and you don't have the appropriate circulating pump to replace one that's not working....try isolating the supply and removing the head (have something to catch the water) then clean and grease the insides. Can be done in 10 minutes and will often get a pump working again until you can return the next day with a new one.

Another tip is to practise things like above with any parts that you remove, that way when you're on site you'll be able to do it with your eyes closed.

Buy a wet vac, they can be used to remove airlocks, clean dirty F & E tanks, and catch water when it's too awkward to have a deep bowl or bucket.

If working in a loft for a considerable period of time, make sure you cut a small piece of ply to bridge three joists and give you a platform to work from, your knees will thank you for it and you won't slip and put a hole in the ceiling.

If an expansion vessel on a boiler is knackered and you face removing half the boiler to get at it....consider installing a new expansion of the correct size elsewhere in the system and leave the broken one in the boiler.

Buy the best tools you can afford. You'll only realise the benefit of this if you have struggled with cheap tools...and buy a decent head torch.

The quickest way to clean paint from a pipe you need to solder a joint on is to give it a quick blast with the blow torch and then a rub with some wire wool.

If a central heating system has no drain off point, find a small radiator downstairs (lowest point possible) remove it in the normal way and then attach a washing machine valve to rad valve, or suitable a small length of 15mm copper tube and a backnut/olive. Then attach a hose to the pipe or it using washing machine hose - cut the hose and fit a small length of 15mm pipe to the w/m hose with a jubilee clip. Then attach a hose. Finally run your hose to a suitable drainage point, open the rad valve and away she goes.

There’s loads more, but it's very hard to think about what you do on a day to day basis, and the silly things you did when you first started out.
 
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if you going to do power flush always change rad valves before begin power flush
 
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is that cos there prone to failing under pressure?.
 
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yes,did happened to me ,but luckily it did on ground floor were concrete floor ,ever since new valves !!😎
 
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Oil fired boilers:

A windscreen wiper bush puller is ideal for getting burner fans off, and removing small motor bearings. It is also a good deal cheaper than a bearing puller.

Most Riello / Electro Oil motors take 6202RS bearings. These are the same as many alternator bearings and are readily available from car parts suppliers and as such a good deal cheaper than from plumbers merchants.

For tanks below the level of a burner you need a priming pump to draw the fuel into the burner. Again obtainable from most automotive tool & parts dealers.

When installing fuel lines to tanks below the level of the burner, remember to use the correct bore pipework, (usually 8 or 6mm diameter but given in your OFTEC installation file). 6mm plastic coated copper is cheaper to buy from a hydraulics merchants than an oil fired heating suppliers.

If you are into night fishing or night activities, get a Tilley lamp as you can run this on all the waste kerosene from cleaning filters / emptying old tanks etc.



Fitting Taps:

Hang onto a few short lengths of different size MDPE (Alkathene) pipe. For a basin tap, cut a 3mm ring off some 25mm alkathene pipe and it makes an ideal spacer to centralise the tap in the basin hole, likewise 32mm for bath taps (you may need to open the ring or cut a little out in some cases.)

Overflows:

To connect 21.5mm solvent weld overflow pipe into the Marley or 3/4" solvent weld, warm the end of a piece of 21.5mm overflow pipe with a blowtorch and shove some 20mm MDPE pipe inside and allow to cool. The end of the pipe will be spot on to fit in the larger bore overflow fittings.

Likewise if you have one make of overflow where the pipe is too tight to fit into another make's fittings, warm the pipe and shove it into the fitting to make a looser fit.



Levelling guttering, checking pipe levels or general building:

Forget messing about with Dumpy levels - use the centuries old tried and tested way - take a length of semi transparent hose which is clear enough to see through and tie both ends pointing upwards where you want to check levels. Fill the hose with water so that the water level is visible at your reference point. The water level at the other end of the hose will be exactly horizontal to the one at the reference end.
 
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always carry a pot of vicks vaporub in the glove box. when you are on a particularly smelly job rub a bit inside each nostril.
i have ever since i fitted a mixer shower for a guy who wipes his rse on the shower curtain i won't get caught like that again!!

KJ
 
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when fitting pillar taps point it to 3 o'clock and tighten the back nut up as much as poss then crack the tap round to point where it should and it aint budging any time soon
 
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one i remembered from pluasne

make an air test kit by stripping the rubber off an old tyre schraeder valve and solder it into some 10mm (i think) then solder into a 10x15 reducer connect the 15mm to a compression fitting, get yourself a foot pump and away you go.

KJ
 
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Removing airlocks from a gravity system: put a washing machine hose on the cold washing machine valve and connect it to the hot valve open up both valves for a few seconds till you hear it bubble in the cylinder this will clear the airlock

A temporary fix for a faulty expansion vessel: drain and refill the system and bleed all radiators except 1 this radiator will act as a temporary expansion vessel
 
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For your bending machine.
Measure your bend as you would normally and put it in the machine and put a pencil mark on the wheel at your size mark.
Pull your bend and check the size is correct. If it is cut a saw draft on the side of the wheel where the pencil mark was (you may need to adjust it a mil or 2 back or forward). Do the same with the other wheel.
You now have a permanent mark to go by and don't need to fk about measuring.
 
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Use a piece of bicycle inner tube and a jubilee clip as a temporary repair for a punctured pipe.
 
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Don't use washing up liquid when fitting WC pan connectors as this can spoil the rubber. If you don't have any of the proper lubricant, use normal household soap.

To clean brick dust off grout I use an old worn out shaving brush of mine.

When you are using a spirit level to get a straight line over a distance, think - is it easier to use a plumb bob and / or chalk line? The hosepipe trick I mentioned on a previous post is useful when marking out for tiling long walls / around rooms

Joiners plastic shims are extremely useful for siting sanitaryware on uneven floors or boxing in on uneven walls. The white ones are the ideal size for spacing tiles off a bath / shower tray or worktop when tiling, to leave enough room for silicone

When making push fit joints, make a line with a marker pen on the pipe approximately level with where it should push into the fitting so you can tell if it's completely home when assembled.

If you are using the service valves supplied with Armitage Shanks WCs these have a plastic olive (which I have seen slide off the pipe under pressure on two occasions) so do not install in such a way that the pipe can blow off - Install into rigid pipework or use another brand of service valve.
 
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When drilling holes on concrete floors or walls for a fixing, after removing drill bit, use a air bellows pump (normally used for air testing on soils or air testing 1st fix gas carcass) with a piece of 8mm/10mm copper tube wedged in and insert to base/end of hole and pump out all dust and debris thats left after drilling. Sometimes helps to look away or wear goggles though!!
 
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When drilling holes on concrete floors or walls for a fixing, after removing drill bit, use a air bellows pump (normally used for air testing on soils or air testing 1st fix gas carcass) with a piece of 8mm/10mm copper tube wedged in and insert to base/end of hole and pump out all dust and debris thats left after drilling. Sometimes helps to look away or wear goggles though!!

I use a turkey baster. I kid you not. Hilti have a tool for blowing dust out before resin fixing. It's basically a turkey baster with a red handle.

Hilti - £50
Sainsburys - £3

Just as good.
 
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just read threw these and im sure i read it on hear before but instead of leaving your solder brush in the bottom of your tool bag/box take an old length off 15 mm flatten and roll one end the cut to the length of your brush and use a jg speedfit on the other end keeps your brush nice and clean and stops making a mess in your bag

p,s thanks to whoever posted this before
 
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Attach the formers for your pipe bender onto the bender frame with large strong rubber bands - you will never need to go hunting through the toolbox for them again!

Leave your welding rods in a biscuit tin in the bottom of the oven after it has been on. It will keep them free from damp and ready to use.

If you have left rods in your van and they have got a bit damp overnight, lay them on tinfoil on top of your engine block (provided you have had a decent drive).

four lengths of threaded bar, washers and plenty of nuts make an ideal jig for setting up parallell flanges and pipe sections for tack welding.

Always carry a basin and sink telescopic P trap as part of your kit - one size fits all!
 
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A sherry bottle cork is the ideal size to use as a quick temporary plug for a sprinkler head when the bulb has blown.
 
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if. like me your van has no roofrack and you keep your copper tube inside the van and it can be seen through the windows...

i simply put my 15 in my 22 and my 22 inside waste pipes, then to any opportunist scrote having a sneaky look inside can only see plastic pipes and is more likely to leave my van alone.

KJ
 
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if you get that fresh pasta that comes in plastic trays, hang on to the trays as they make good drip trays also ice cream and margarine tubs.
 
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Always cover any glass with vinyl on the inside rear doors , a very easy cheap deterant against getting robbed.
If you have rear doors make a shelf about 18 inches high. This is ideal for keeping expensive tools hidden ,even if someone pops a rear window they cannot get to the expensive drills etc ,unless they can unlock the back doors.
buy a leatherman TTI or gerber and you can avoid carrying a tool case at all
buy a pretzel head torch, get a wickes wet and dry perfect for airlocks.
Use pipe lagging to get rid of air locks ,charge more work less lol
 
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Hello GASMARC can you explain the last bit about lagging to get rid of airlocks,
regards
 
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i think he means to use it to make a seal between the wet & dry and the pipe.
 
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Tutorial - How to remove an immersion element which has been stuck in with jointing compound:

Time - Approx 1/2 hour from draining.

1, drain to below level of element

2, remove all cover, thermostat, wires etc

3, make a saw cut across top with hacksaw as in the first picture, down to the gasket but be careful not to cut through the gasket or you will damage the face which the gasket seals onto. Make another saw cut at about 45 degrees to the first.

4, with a 3mm drill, drill a series of holes across the face of the element joining the saw cuts and going round the thermostat hole and element terminals.

5, use a 5mm drill to enlarge the holes so that a continuous gap is created across the face.

6, next we need to cut through the vertical sides of the element cap where the threaded section is (first picture). Work a hacksaw blade along the gaps to clear out and parts between the drill holes. Next cut into the threaded part, being careful not to cut beyond the thread or you will cut deep into the cylinder thread and risk damaging the cylinder.

7. with a pair of grips, try to pry out the 45 degree segment. Once you have cut through enough thread you should be able to remove this (second picture). Once removed, you should be able to squash the remaining sides of the element top together to free from the cylinder and unscrew.

8, With a wire brush and miniature screwdriver, clean out the threads on the cylinder and clean any jointing compound from the mating face.

cylinder2.jpgcylinder3.jpg
 
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Buy a wet vac, they can be used to remove airlocks, clean dirty F & E tanks, and catch water when it's too awkward to have a deep bowl or bucket.

I use one to drain rads if customer wants to decorate behind them it's much cleaner then using a small tub & bucket under the valve to drain it off. ( dont forget to turn both sides of the rad off ) have the wet vac on & ready to go,crack the rad valve nut then just put the hose right on the rad tail then suck it all out,this method works well on small rad(s) with 3/4 union nuts.

Use a water proof dust sheet at all times when working on rads in this way because there is always the risk of you dripping dirty rad water on a customers carpet! & you dont want that!
 
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Easier just to pull carpet back a few inches wrap 2 old towels (supplied by cust) round the pipes, split the nuts fingers over the ends and out the door. Watch you don't burn your face if it has been on. You should be able to do a 700 x 1200K2 or smaller on your own. 5 minutes max😛
 
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Here is one i did for the first time today as never really thought of it.

Doing a combi swap. Cust didn't want a pwr flush and the water was pure brown. Prv had been running for 3 or 4 months topping up once a day🙄
Bungalow with all drop feed rads so there was i thinking it will take ages to drain all this 10 times then the idea came to me. Probably been done a hundred times but here it is.

Fitted new boiler and sentinel system filter on return. Filled towel rail with X800 and left closed off.
Filled system and left fill loop open but let it drain through filter at the same rate. Left it that way for 10 minutes or so then fired it up with it still draining for another 20 mins or so.
Water running clearer, closed drain opened towel rail to let X800 in and left for an hour or so while i filled out the logbook and other stuff, chatted to my mate for a bit then flushed it through as above once more until clear.
Final drain and X100 in. Paid and out the door.
Took around 1hr 50 mins to flush it but got all the tests done and paperwork filled in while it was happening.

Btw for all the trouble of doing this it was the easiest swap i have done for a while. Back in the house for half 2.
 
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When using JG Speedfit, use only the standard inserts in compression fittings and not the Superseal ones (the ones with the rubber O rings). Also don't use them with compression fittings that have a short slip or with cheap ball type valves on mains supplies as they will blow off!!!
 
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my biggest tip and secret is to work within yourself, speed doesnt mean good, be prepared, get everyhing ready, dont put yourself under pressure, jobs done wen its done, get the right tools and equip

also, people dont know the difference between good plumbing or bad very often but do know if you were polite or rude, be polite, put dust sheets down, clean up after yourself, and your on a winner
 
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Clean up after yourself!

Absolutely!!


Even if the customer says "dont worry I'll do it" that has come back on me many times over the years! Anyone will do anything to get money off the bill! or even try to get out of paying it all together! So yes! always clean up after yourself!🙂

Question.... Why cant sparkys do this?😡
 
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Absolutely!!


Even if the customer says "dont worry I'll do it" that has come back on me many times over the years! Anyone will do anything to get money off the bill! or even try to get out of paying it all together! So yes! always clean up after yourself!🙂

Question.... Why cant sparkys do this?😡

not just sparks alot of people don't do it ! when I got sky fitted came back from work to find my room in a complete mess ! was really ****ed off and made me hate them now lol ..

the customers who say "dont worry i'll do it" usually are just sick of you and want you out the house 😛 but I usually try to insist on tidying up as its part of my job.
 
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if you do file crome off pipe
 
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no chatting on this thread.

if you dont have a tip then dont post////
 
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I always put a 5pence piece and a washer in a open end of a ballafix if i leave a job for a while and there are others on site
blank off a 22mm pipe the same with a 10p piece and washer
 
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just to add to my previous post.

A property is probably the single most highest investment anyone will ever make, its their own little private castle. to let a virtual stranger inside is daunting for many, if you are aware of this and conduct yourself in a respectful manner it will make them feel at ease. many people would prefer somebody they feel at ease with to come into their home and often this is secondry to what you do!
 
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Not sure if posted before,but I'll post it anyway.

Most new heating system are now pressurized,but the only down side to this type of system is that it wont top itself up if you vent/bleed or even drain down so you have to do it manually,which can be a pain at times.

This tip is mainly for larger systems & if you are working alone.

There is nothing worse then filling up a large pressurized HS on your own,as you are back & fourth to the filler every time you vent/bleed a few rads just to keep the water lever at 1 or maybe 2bar depending on the size of the system.

If you have a 15mm pressure reducing valve spare,then fit it to the filling loop & set it to the holding pressure of you choice & leave the main feed on,that way the system will just keep filling as you bleed/vent the rads & will stay at the set pressure,this cuts out going back & fourth to the filler to top up. Once the system is filled vented/bled/heat tested remove the pressure reducing. Job done🙂
 
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a wet vac is an essential piece of kit - if water spills on the custards carpet, even it is dirty rad water, dont mop it up just get your wet vac on it, 95% of it will get removed, even if dirty as long as you dont rub it first.

get a selection of small plastic food boxes to use to drain down pipes under the floor. Stick yuour wet vac in the tray to cope with any excess of water on the drain down.

get a load of old towels for the van, as absorvant as possible, as they are the ideal first measure when you have a leak, and will even soak up water from the floor as well. Very handy as well if you need to do some live workk, just wedge them in the right places!!
 
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Right on my,wet vac one of my my first purchase on recomendation £35 from screwfix, used most days and nevere let me down yet.Makes light work of draining rads too!

Bob🙂
 
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if you ever struggle trying to solder a pipe with water in it buy a laser fluid extractor from screwfix or similar, cut the hose that comes with it and the clear plastic pipe remaining connects straight to 10mm speedfit so reduce/enlarge it to any size you want and suck the fluid out of the pipe making it easy too solder!! also good for priming oil lines if there below ground level.

Cordless Angle Grinder with 1mm metal blade for ease of cutting flu's and any bolts/screws etc which require a slight trim

Can vouch for the Armeg drop jaw wrench for tightening bath / basin taps. has helped out in alot of situations.

and as said before spend as much money on kit as you can afford, if you cant buy the decent stuff first time round keep saving, alot of the cheap stuff is just tat, granted some of it is ok. i try to have every bit of equipment/tool on me to make my job as easy as possible.

Be presentable where possible and polite 100% of the time, manners cost nothing. i also beleive there is no room for messy tradesmen who never clean up after themselves.

1 last piece of advice, when setting up pipework for radiators etc if its gotta be 1290 centres make sure it is 1290, not 1280 and that will do, and make sure its fixed well ie saddle clips so there not going too move not just nail on clips. plasterers are ruthless so if they start off a little bit out and or inadequately clipped and end up too far out and looking poo or you end up chopping more plaster out.

not sure if thats gonna help anyone or i just wanted too rant but hope everyone is well 😀
 
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if you ever struggle trying to solder a pipe with water in it

Never heard of the old plumbers bread trick? If you can push a small peace of bread ( depending on size of pipe ) into the pipe you want to solder,the bread will hold back the water enough for you to solder. I've have tired this on 15mm & 22mm works fine,not tried 28mm though.when finished turn water back on.The bread is so soft it will just break down when water is back on.

What is wrong with fitting pushfit to chrome pipe?

Chrome pipe has a very smooth finish,push will just slid off it.

Tip,you can buy a scoring tool to mark the pipe to let the push fit grab ring hold tight,or you can just file off the chrome enough for the fitting to go on.
 
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little tip much quicker using compression on chrome try filing alot of chrome pipes got that as a job once as a boy
 
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Found a pic of the multi pipe size scoring tool for chrome pipe..😎chrome pipe scroing tool.jpg
 
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There's a material called PVA that's used in carp fishing. You can buy little bags made of it. The idea is to put all your bait in it and cast out and it dissolves in water over a couple of minutes. I've not used it but it could work for the old bread trick. I was thinking of it yesterday when trying to solder a 28mm pipe that was dripping. I just turned the mapp torch up full!

If you're cutting into a pipe and you're not sure if it's isolated at the right valve,don't dive in with your pipeslice,make a small cut with a hacksaw,if when you break the surface you've still got full pressure you can wrap some duct tape around the pipe and look for the right valve without water spraying everywhere.
 
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indeed i have heard of the old bread trick and personally think its gotta be one of the roughest approaches ever. people pay hundreds of pounds protecting central heating systems from sludge and debris with things like magnacleans, spirotechs etc for people such as yourselves to introduce bread into the system. me thinks its not going too be very good for them heat exchangers, or even if its on hot / cold pipework its gonna get stuck in a filter somewhere. but thats just my tuppence worth. im all for having the correct tool for the job.

I was taught by an old school plumber,so from time to time I use old school methods.I was talking small amounts of bread & for smaller pipe.The bread when soaked through will just dissolve.

Tip: dont go pushing a french stick up a pipe that wont dissolve!🙄
 
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I always put a 5pence piece and a washer in a open end of a ballafix if i leave a job for a while and there are others on site
blank off a 22mm pipe the same with a 10p piece and washer
I always fit a screw on end cap to blank off open ended valves. Cheaper than using your hard earned cash in a fitting.
 
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If you're unsure when you cut through a pipe about the amount of water involved that might come out, keep a couple of Speedfit push fit stop ends (2 in case you drop/lose one in your panic and put them a good foot or two from each other in case you lose them both at the same time).
 
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A true plumber should NEVER panic even when it is all coming down around him😛
 
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i made a little something for my bending guides to keep them in good condition, consists of 2no 2" coupler (solvent) 2no 2"access plugs short piece of 2" pipe, glue together and you have yourself a nice place to keep your guides safe 🙂
 
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When hanging radiators use two spirit levels. Attach first bracket, then measure distance to next bracket. Put long spirit level on top of both and use small one to make the next bracket vertical. If one hole goes wrong when drilling, make another hole. (For the less experienced, short side out for double rads and long side out for singles.)

When using spirit levels there's no need to paint a Tony Hart sketch all over the wall. Just one small (maybe 2) pencil marks.
 
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Buy a mechanics magnetic dish for servicing and repairs on boilers,fires,etc. Put all the screws,bolts and nuts in it,saves a lot of hassle trying to find bits that have fallen into the dustsheet!
 
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sometimes use a household mop to 'plunge' the trap/water seal on a wc pan for releasing some blockages. Take the bucket as well though, doesn't drip on the carpet then!!!!
 
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A true plumber should NEVER panic even when it is all coming down around him😛

That's my boss for you! he never panics.

Many years ago I cut through a 28mm mains feed pipe with a skill saw!
( I didn't know the pipe was there ) anyway,you can imagine the mess this must of made,water poring through the kitchen ceiling below!who walks in right at this moment,my boss...😱 he says & I quote " what happened?" so I told him,he say's "oh,water off?" told him it was off, he said "ok,good,did you fill the kettle before you turned it off?" I said kettle was full,he said "good lad make me a coffee!" & that was it! & he's never changed!😀

So there's another tip for you "always make sure kettle is full before you turn any water off,no matter the situation!"
 
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use this tool handy peace of kit small mirror extends to 610mm ideal for inspecting and a magnet on end of it for catching screws etc

http://www.sc r e w
fix.com/search.do;jsessionid=I3ZUU4VFVDZNYCSTHZOCFFQ?_dyncharset=UTF-8&fh_search=64760
 
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Don't make a small cut with a hacksaw if you're not 100% sure the pipe is isolated -use a 3mm drill bit and have a short self tapping screw wound with PTFE handy which you can screw into the hole and stop the water completely if you are wrong!

When using the bread trick make sure it is sufficiently down the pipe that it won't carbonise when soldering or it WILL cause a blockage!!
 
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when i am soldering and i cannot see right round the fitting i use a dentists mirror to see all round to make sure it is properly soldered.
 
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Don't make a small cut with a hacksaw if you're not 100% sure the pipe is isolated -use a 3mm drill bit and have a short self tapping screw wound with PTFE handy which you can screw into the hole and stop the water completely if you are wrong!

When using the bread trick make sure it is sufficiently down the pipe that it won't carbonise when soldering or it WILL cause a blockage!!

I can go one better than that!!

On the very rare occasions that I'm unsure of isolation in a pipe, I use a self cutting washing machine valve (£4 at screwfix).

It cuts and seals at the same time. You turn the little tap head that is attached to the valve and it opens the valve. If there is a long dead leg, you can drain it off with control, if its still live, you just close the tap and sort it.

Here you go, a link to a self cutting/sealing drain valve, under four quid. Drain valve is even better than a W/M valve as you can attach a hose to drain it down.

Check Valves & Strainers & Drain Cocks
 
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When you need to fasten a condenser to the motor casing (for oil boilers) you will find that the space where the nut goes you can't get a ring spanner or socket into as it's too small. However what is perfect for the job is a 13mm box spanner of the type used for tightening monoblock taps which most plumbers will have in their toolkit.

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This bit. The nut is recessed in the flange casting. Those who do oil will know what I am on about.
 
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When taking WC cistern off pan and faced with undoing the metal nut that connects to the plastic thread of a toilet inlet valve - if there is the opporunity to undo a metal-to-metal or push-fit connection further down the pipe (if it's flexi tap connector or there's a compression coupler or isolation valve) undo that instead. Worse that can happen on reassebly is you need a bit of ptfe round the olive and you eliminate chance of cross-threading inlet on re-attaching nut.

When putting your silicone away give the gun a little squeeze and leave a little bit peeking out the end. That way when you come back and it's dried over you've something to grab on to pull out the dried top bit.

When offering tips and secrets of plumbing start every sentence with when.
 
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spot on WaterTight , always look for a metal to metal connection that can be disconnected , removing the tap adapter from the plastic thread is the last resort!

keep both foam and rubber doughnuts in the van , and always replace if you ve had the cistern off to replace the syphon/washer. silicone , p's mate or putty is rough rough .


wipe your feet at the custards door, carry non slip over shoe covers for expensive looking carpets .
 
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I use two dust sheets in wet weather. First one goes on top of customer's doormat and second one where I'm working. Usually this means I don't have to take my feet off, but if I'm working in the snow I take my wellies and work in my socks.
 
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I know what ya mean I carry a small 1/4 drive socket set shallow and deep sockets
 
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always have ya aqua vac at hand on old heating systems that have more sludge than water in them sudden releases of air blockages are rather annoying especially when you think you have drained a system down
 
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one i remembered from the previous incarnation of hints and tips is about rodding a blocked crapper. stick a short length of wastepipe down the pan and rod thru this to prevent scratching the pot
 
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ok then one more.

for those of you fitting surrey flanges for a seperate shower feed. don't bother!!

although they offer airfree water supply, the twin outlet design restricts flow which WILL affect the performance of the shower you are fitting! also the extended connection to the cylinder can force the slight rise to the vent pipe into a downwards fall causing trapped air.

a simple and cheap and quicker way of providing a seperate less restricted, air free shower feed is to put an equal 22mm tee into the horizontal section of pipe between the cylinder top and the vent ensuring that the tee points down (obviously the pipe then needs to be bent round to go up into roofspace), alternative position is again a 22mm tee fitted on the vertical section below the open vent tee,

both these positionings ensure airfree supply to the shower based on the fact that air bubbles can not travel downwards!!


regards

KJ


KJ
 
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keep speedfit caps or iso valves in your tool box, never know when u might slice a pipe full of water
 
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Don't trust what your being told by the customer or another professional:

I've recently been told that a cylinder I was to replace had been drained down etc.

Be sure before cutting pipe:

momentary lack of concentration, I froze the hot pipe, pipes crossed over behind the cupboard I was talking to the customer and cut the wrong pipe.......... lucky I had a 15mm stop end in my pocket
 
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Keep a few lengths of scrap 22mm copper when changing boilers - they are perfect for making rollers to roll a boiler across a floor.

Save a few lengths of scrap 1/2 and 3/4" lead pipe. They are excellent for making templates for awkward bent copper sections.
 
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good for a heat mat/protection, find an old ironing board and rip of the iron pad.
or if your lucky ask a joiner if he has a piece of fiber-lux (same-thing) and cut your own size 'mat'.
this stuff will out last any expensive heat mats.

if you need one for bends or corners- carry some aluminium sheet that you can bend by hand around the joint.
works just as well.

finally; heat gell stops closely soldered joints near to where you are working from de-soldering by heat transfer.
 
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when your going to replace a ch pump on an s or y plan , and it has ball type iso valves on the pump (turn with an alen key , no a flatty), chances they ll leak from the gap around the spindle you ve just turned (non serviceable o-ring perished from the heat), you might even get a wee jet hitting you in the eye.

when they re fitted , explain this might happen to customer , have them watch you if they think your just trying to create extra work. find where to drain the heating and have a pair of gate type pump valves to replace the kak ball types if they do leak , please think of the next man and dont replace with the same kak ball types - rant over but a good one for newbs and probably mentioned before.
 
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Put a penny washer on one of the rings on your bunch of keys. Sits there not taking up any room and can be used as a screwdriver to turn off isolation valves. I did it once incase I couldn't find a screwdriver in an emergency. Since then it turns out my keys are often closer to me than a flat-headed screwdriver so I use it all the time.
 
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when i first started working for a plumber and was nervous and eager to help i tried to lift the cover to the external stop-cock with my car key rather than go back inside for a screwdriver. i bent it in half. was pleased as punch.
 
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lol well I wouldn't do that, but it is ideal for certain iso valves not all of them mind you some have required a bit more force and that's when i get my screwgie 😛
 
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for jobs with lots of rads and espically if your going to be on your own.

get a prv a couple of flexi hoses to fit onto the filling loop connections , saves running back to the boiler to top up every two minutes
 
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Trade wipes are good at getting black rad sludge out of carpets. As long as it is fresh and the carpets arnt white!!
 
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Always have a tapered rubber plug in your pocket to bung tanks if you are in the loft on your own!
 
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spray window cleaner on a fresh bead of mastic before wetting your finger to smooth it off as the window cleaner stops it from sticking to un wanted places as you run your finger along the joint. This keeps the bead thin and tidy.
 
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'Never put yer fingers where you wouldn't put yer privates!' Was taught that 25 years ago from an old pipefitter in steelworks as a first year apprentice and I always take a second to remember it.............. I miss old 3 and 1/2!!
 
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When cutting out worktops for a sink with a jig saw or any other type of wood that has a finished surface, put masking tape on the surface first where it's to be cut and it won't splinter. Good this on Conti board too.
 
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Or use a down cutting blade or score it with a knife
 
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or cut the work top upside down if your cutting to length with a skill saw
 

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