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Hi Dear members ,


I have a idea ,why dont the moderators crater some sort of page where potential customers to list a jobs they want done and all members from here by listing there location can go and visit jobs and take it on if customers agree on price , plus they can leave feed back for all of our services !


And after we get going we can sponsor the forum and get better and better


Please speak your mined and give ideas , I am starting my first job which I got from here
full install (boiler ,unvented , and 13 rads + first fix on bathroom and 2 showers )

will be nice to catch the POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS WHEN THEY VISIT HERE !
 
good idea stan we do have the i need a plumber thread at the top of the general plumbing forum but i'm sure it could be expanded to be a proper work on offer page sort of thing
 
Not a bad idea. I get a little bit of work via the Sheffield forum but tend to get undercut from the handymen a lot of the time. Should be a more discerning customer base on here....... Hoteldave frinstance!!!
 
could also have another thread for loveslaves to find potential employers, I am considering getting another loveslave so I better notify A and E
 
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Make a thread with like a list of locations e.g Wales- Swansea Cardiff etc all the major towns and people can go into that sub category then for choosing one in that area. 🙂 Obviously hyper linking the locations and that will take you to the list of plumbums
 
i dont like these kind of jobs TBH its like tenderrring , ive just been asked to do some big police stations in south/west yorkshire and althugh i know some pretty well 🙂 i havent bothered they want it for nothing then moan like the mess a snail leaves when it breaks down cos they have short arms and deep pockets
 
We have this on another forums and it does work well every now and again so I'm up for it if you lot are.

What we do on tilersforums is allow a thread to be posted, then a moderator will close the thread and respond to it and to contact the member via PM if they wish to enquire about it. We have to remove all personal contact details, because we had agencies touting for the work and taking over. Even one claiming to be us. So private messages via the forum helps us find and remove the dodgy agencies etc.

So we'd need a guy to manage that, and you guys would have to choose the guy. 🙂

Anybody up for that sort of role here? Clearly needs to be a regular.
The moderators here will choose the person. But if you have suggestions let us know. And if you're interested let me or the mods know.

I think it's a good thing. We are here to support the trader after all. So anything we do to get you guys some extra business we'll try to do. And things that cost nowt, we will do.
 
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Thank you Dan

Next suggestion I have is the person who will be managing it to be getting small kick back from the person who is dong the job ,by doing it that way all will be happy !

Please guys if you are willing to take care of it we can make it work for us 🙂

and will be very good earner as there is no competition on the market for better forum

with such a good and clued up members .


I have another idea but will bring that one later on as we need to make this one work first !
 
i would like to take on the such likes of servicemagic, trustatrade and boilerguide but done without screwing the tradesman from non-existant work, followed up by a feedback from the customer.
sick and tired of these scroats taking advantage making money for nothing.imo.
 
so you thing it will not work ? it will as there will not be any one behind it just us ! and when any one gets job we just kick back the lad who will be running it !
well lets sea whet every one of the regular ones will say !
 
We set up a sub-forum where joe soap or members can post jobs..

"I am looking for a plumber.."

We can make it auto moderated and then mods can just approve the job and lock it then ask members to contact the OP direct..

If you take a look at the Tilers one, you will see how many jobs get posted.. and it is good for the members.

[DLMURL="http://www.tilersforums.co.uk/im-looking-wall-floor-tiler/"]I'm Looking for a Wall and Floor Tiler[/DLMURL]

Now the question is.. what do we call it..

I am looking for a plumber and heating etc etc..?
 
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​Maybe start off with something like this


I am looking for a plumber.

If you are looking for any plumbing,drainage,gas,heating,boiler or renewables work to be undertaken ,please place your post in this forum,with as much detail as possible and area you are in.Find a professional local Plumber here.
 
'i need a plumbing quote'<br><br>why not copy those other sites and generate a lot of enquiries and give em a run for the money, is it possible or does it take a lot to do?.
 
i have a idea why dont we get all the regular lads from here to be register and have there area RESERVED for them only as when every one hear about it they all will want a peace of our cake ???what u think ?
 
just had a look on the tilers forum -they have done very well

we can do it too !

come on lads give us all your opinion about it ?

and what i think it will be good is the thread to be viewable only to plumbers arms members ,other way there will be people coming on to the forum just to still the work !
 
I think we should walk before we run,get it up and running and go from there,if not,we will go on for ever trying to sort this and that out

imho
 
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Brilliant idea, think Puddle is on the right track to walk before you can run. Keep it simple. You already have a volunteer to run it, so get the forum started.

I'm always grateful for extra ways to create leads, and generate work. If it works for the tilers, it can work for us.
 
Just found this thread and I think in priciple it sounds like a good idea. But like previous posts before I think its best to start slow and see how it goes. With work the way it is at the minute any work is good work.
 
this is a very good idea it seems to work on the tilers forum so should work on here. if there is anything to do i am willing to help out as best as i can as i have more time on my hands at the moment than i would hope for.
 
SafeGasInstall said:
i have a idea why dont we get all the regular lads from here to be register and have there area RESERVED for them only as when every one hear about it they all will want a peace of our cake ???what u think ?
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well, blackcatgas lives 1/4 mile down the road from me.
so at high noon ..........will let you know the outcome.lol.

will need to limit the number of quotes though say tyo 5 max, i mean the custard dont want 15 members calling to fix a leaking tap?.
 
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the only problem i can see with that red is maybe the custard will think we are conspiring to keep the price artificially high if all the quotes come back at about the same price lol.
 
REDSAW said:
well, blackcatgas lives 1/4 mile down the road from me.
so at high noon ..........will let you know the outcome.lol.

will need to limit the number of quotes though say tyo 5 max, i mean the custard dont want 15 members calling to fix a leaking tap?.
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i don't think competition amongst members is a particularly good idea! perhaps some method of fixed pricing for basic jobs could be agreed before hand and the job offered to the closest member to the custard, if not available then the next and so on
 
like i say weve all got to be singing the same hyme , could maybe go as far as inviation into that section only that way we pick who comes in based on there posts , who they know etc etc
 
kay-jay said:
i don't think competition amongst members is a particularly good idea! perhaps some method of fixed pricing for basic jobs could be agreed before hand and the job offered to the closest member to the custard, if not available then the next and so on
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I like the idea in principle but price fixing in the UK is illegal and we don't want to be seen as being dodgy, we get enough stick from the media as it is.
 
Are we going to debate it to death are get it started? If any extra help is needed then count me in.

Whichever way we go to start with, it won't be perfect, but it would be a start. Anything is better than leaving online lookers to 'my hammer', 'rated people' etc.

Longer term it would be good to get customer feedback on each member, 'what a great service' or 'what a muppet' etc.
 
I'm not sure on the legallities of this but could we not put a link on the gas safe website where our individual details are listed? I, for eample , don't have a website so would be happy to put the link to the forum to posts jobs up on my details?
 
SimonG said:
What about us happy campers that aren't gas safe?
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You could still get work from it, I don't advertise at all and get all my private jobes from the gas safe website and word of mouth. But I get calls off the gas safe website that I turn down that are not gas related ie move rads, fit bathroom. These jobs are too big for me as I sub contract during the week and like to be bits and bobs on the weekend and take time off during the week for bigger jobs that may get ie combi swap etc.

So these jobs that are not gas jobs could be going to people on the forum and helping lads on here that know their stuff and are not cowboys and can be trusted
 
villa_tom said:
You could still get work from it, I don't advertise at all and get all my private jobes from the gas safe website and word of mouth. But I get calls off the gas safe website that I turn down that are not gas related ie move rads, fit bathroom. These jobs are too big for me as I sub contract during the week and like to be bits and bobs on the weekend and take time off during the week for bigger jobs that may get ie combi swap etc.

So these jobs that are not gas jobs could be going to people on the forum and helping lads on here that know their stuff and are not cowboys and can be trusted
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I didn't realise customers would look to the gas safe site for 'non gas' work, my bad. 🙂 🙂
 
SimonG said:
I didn't realise customers would look to the gas safe site for 'non gas' work, my bad. 🙂 🙂
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They do it all the time. To be fair I can see how they think that moving a rad etc would require a heating trade as its connected to the boiler. But as we all know you don't have to be gas safe to do it. Don't get me wrong I don't get loads of people asking for bathroom fits (only had the one) but it does happen occaisionally and work like this would be ideal for someone who is not gassafe.

If I had more experiance in the plumbing side then I would take these jobs but since college I have just done mainly gas works like servicing, cp12's and fitting cookers. Only started in the last year or so getting more involved in the plumbing side by fitting rads etc. But like I say I turn these down mainly because I am busybut also because I am very very rusty on the plumbing side having only dealt with boiler and there innards for the past 5 years.

I also think this idea would be good for people learning things, like if one bloke took a job to fit UFH someone who has no experiance but would like to learn could tag along if both blokes agreed and they could learn.


The more I think about this idea I THINK ITS GREAT!!
 
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I like the idea in principle but price fixing in the UK is illegal and we don't want to be seen as being dodgy, we get enough stick from the media as it is.
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not quite accurate that, price fixing is giving inflated price for a product you cannot buy else where, like gas.
your local taxi drivers all charge about the same in your area dont they?. thats called the going rate.
 
I only need one thing to be done and this is only members from forum to get the leads......as if not then many people not members will come along and get the lead ,therefore customers can get illegal cowboys in estate

of forum members cowboys (us)
 
REDSAW said:
not quite accurate that, price fixing is giving inflated price for a product you cannot buy else where, like gas.
your local taxi drivers all charge about the same in your area dont they?. thats called the going rate.
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I think you will find that the law thinks otherwise:
Competition law prohibits almost any attempt by competitors to fix prices - for example, it will generally be illegal to:

  • agree prices with your competitors - eg you can't agree to work from a shared minimum price list
, Source : Anti-competitive agreements | Business Link

As i said I think its a good idea but I think we should keep the pricing bit out of it
 
Pricing is up to an individual what they want to earn and also
Will depend on location too
 
who is going to set it up then if we all agree to my idea . And will it be possible just arms to be able to receive customers details ????
 
SimonG said:
Depend on the job as well, a leaky toilet can be anything from missing to a cracked cistern. Until it's seen, it's always difficult to give an accurate cost.
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I think we've 3 volunteers to run it , suppose it's down to admin now of where to put it within the forums
 
but how can we secure it that we will get it going and others will be benefited and take the leads to the jobs !!!

am i thinking wrong ???
 
can it be then customers to list the jobs but there will be another form to fill as not to have there details shown in to the public ! and then the lads who will be looking after the thread just sent details to whoever is near the job but if none available then can go to Mr. Jo Public
 
i was thinkning the cust to fill out the form send it onto us 3 , first to pick it up send it onto the nearest chap/chic then its not a public listing for othere to just start PMing the cust direct
 
SafeGasInstall said:
can it be then customers to list the jobs but there will be another form to fill as not to have there details shown in to the public ! and then the lads who will be looking after the thread just sent details to whoever is near the job but if none available then can go to Mr. Jo Public
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I thought as soon as its posted anybody can pm them. But if the custs have anything about them they will check the forum to check out the people contacting them. Like I posted earlier I don't think it will be perfect from day 1, but need to start somewhere.
 
i recon that might put custards off if they list it and 15 of us start PMing them quotes back. i recon too that memebers have to be registered for that section other wise we will end up with cowboy bob just joining up to get jobs
 
how about whoever responds clicks like on the post then we know the job has been responded to. clicking thanks could signify completion of the job
 
We need some input from those in the know on how the forum works then. I'm just concerned we over complicate things and that puts people off as well. We need a happy medium. I wouldn't be looking to send a quote just on what was posted, I'd be wanting to look at the job, but again this would be dependant upon the job.
 
damn can't edit!

each job could have say 3 likes, then customer has a choice of 3 plumbers.
 
SimonG said:
We need some input from those in the know on how the forum works then. I'm just concerned we over complicate things and that puts people off as well. We need a happy medium. I wouldn't be looking to send a quote just on what was posted, I'd be wanting to look at the job, but again this would be dependant upon the job.
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i agree, any prices given should be taken as estimates not quotes. just the same as when a customer rings and says how much? you still need to give a general indication of what such a job usually costs
 
bod said:
i recon that might put custards off if they list it and 15 of us start PMing them quotes back. i recon too that memebers have to be registered for that section other wise we will end up with cowboy bob just joining up to get jobs
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If its got trusted members such as yourself running it then you will only give the details to trusted members which will eliminate cowboys/agencies. They could post the job details on the search for a plumber forum and then you contact them for their address, then pass the details on to the nearest 3 trusted members who can arrange a quote
 
We'll need a list of all the members who are interested in being part of this, where they are based and how far willing to travel. Also the type of jobs willing to be undertaken. I know I live in the sticks but its gonna be a bit tougher in the bigger cities, if we have 5 or 6 members in the right area do we do it on a rota or to all that apply?

We need to draw up a charter then, not anything flash, just some basic ground rules.
 
mikegas said:
If its got trusted members such as yourself running it then you will only give the details to trusted members which will eliminate cowboys/agencies. They could post the job details on the search for a plumber forum and then you contact them for their address, then pass the details on to the nearest 3 trusted members who can arrange a quote
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yeah put theres nothing to stop joe blogs there though just pm ing them for there address , i just think we need more control over it IMHO but im happy to go with the majority ,
 
bod said:
yeah put theres nothing to stop joe blogs there though just pm ing them for there address , i just think we need more control over it IMHO but im happy to go with the majority ,
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but surely they are posting the job on this forum because they want a trusted plumber so will only take the ones you advise
 
bod said:
yeah put theres nothing to stop joe blogs there though just pm ing them for there address , i just think we need more control over it IMHO but im happy to go with the majority ,
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well if the thread is made a sticky and the first post is from the mods telling potential customers to respond only to pm's from PROFFESSIONAL PLUMBERS' whose names appear in RED on the forum. as non plumbers arms members have not been vetted
 
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but surely they are posting the job on this forum because they want a trusted plumber so will only take the ones you advise
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or would they go with the cheapest option from the dog walkers,paperboys mate who did a two week super fast track course ?
 
or the customer just shows up as anonymous on that part of the forum so they cant be contacted by anybody apart from the people running it
 
thats a good idea kay-jay we need some way to sort the wheat form the chaff so to speak. not that i'm saying anyone on here is necessarily chaff or indeed wheat lol.
 
kay-jay said:
well if the thread is made a sticky and the first post is from the mods telling potential customers to respond only to pm's from PROFFESSIONAL PLUMBERS' whose names appear in RED on the forum. as non plumbers arms members have not been vetted
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never noticed the red thing till now lol

like av said im happy either way so long as were all in agreement
 
mikegas said:
but surely they are posting the job on this forum because they want a trusted plumber so will only take the ones you advise
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Very good point, the fact they have posted on here would mean they are wanting to remove the element of 'pot luck' and take the recommendations on board. The biggest comment I come across is that 'I'm new to the area and don't know who to use'. I'm doing one job at the minute where she wanted an electrical check and the full house decorating but didn't know who to use. Gave her the numbers of two good lads and hey presto they're in doing the work.

How are we going to handle complaints? and I'm thinking along the lines of the cust that won't ever be happy!
 
bod said:
or would they go with the cheapest option from the dog walkers,paperboys mate who did a two week super fast track course ?
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haha i would like to think not, i dont think the majority of people would, even if they did they would be back for a repair :smiley2:
 
complaints ? more like thank you presents , we just put some sort of disclaimer togther stating its between them and the engineer were just introducing the 2
 
good stuff! sounds like we're really making some progress. hopefully it should be up and running this week
 
I suppose this could also be a good way to warn tradesmen of rogue customers i.e. bad payers and the like. Say if someone does a job for Mr Smith in Doncaster and gets ripped off, he goes on a blacklist and we can check on the list before responding to any jobs. We could incorporate the tilers and sparkies forums and the other ones so everyone is less likely to get goosed!
 
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thats a good idea lee people are always saying on here that we should have a rogue customer section.
 
good ideas lads keep em comming your ideas are being noted.

proof of qualifications and p.l insurance and a minimum posting level (say a 1000) i think will be essential imo.

what! not got a 1000 yet?. get posting then.lol.
 
Well, by the time Ive got a 1000 posts the system should be well up and running with all the problems ironed out. lol
 
yeah i remember when i txt him to see what he thought , then it appears on hear but hey ho
 
we have been looking initially at this for a few months now and we are working at it in the background.
on the 'other (secret) forum'
but we still need as much 'think tanking' to get it right whilst things are being set up, we are also considering taking on the 'big-uns' too.

keep your eyes open for the boiler forum.


ps. are we there yet?. are we nearly there yet?. lol.
 

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