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dontknowitall
My reply is off topic but there's much less profit than implied in this post.
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My reply is off topic but there's much less profit than implied in this post.
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REDSAW
you forgot to ad the boiler manufacturers turn out these boilers for £135 each after cost so are making over £600 profit each. not,
your assuming it is all profit mate, ask your boss at work 'why pay me so much when your time is free'?. then have a wee think of what your saying.imo.
With regards to paperwork, im self employed have a young son of 14 months old sometimes i leave for work before he gets up and sometimes i dont get home till hes gone to bed and sometimes i miss bedtime going to look at jobs and then paperwork to try and fit in as well but i find the time, wanna do the best i can to make my business grow and earn the best i can to support my family.
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jase158
have fun argueing with yourselves as too bored now, playing with words is a fun game but not really my cup of tea,
How many Plumbers does it take to say No.........
How many Plumbers does it take to say No.........
paperwork is the aspect of the job that bothers me the least. it doesn't involve kneeling down or fighting with some stubborn fitting, if you put it off for a few days nobody phones you up and complains and if you are so inclined in can come with a sit down, some music and a side order of oven chips.
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secret squirrel
I think the problem is with work is the sort of work people want to do and what pays.
If someone wants a whole house heating system renewed, boiler, rads, timers etc there is a lot more profit in this than say changing a set of kitchen taps. Obviously. So, when people say I had to wait 3 weeks to get a plumber, what sort of job is it?
I know a plumber who will not touch the small stuff, just doesn't need it or want it. Thankfully. He gives these customers my number, in return, I give him the boilers (not the two legged type!). It works well, if he gets a job that is a bit too much for one, I take a few days out my diary and work for him.
He can't employ me full time (certainly wouldn't want him to, I like working on my own), even doing the small stuff. Lets say a kitchen tap, relatively straight forward with flexi's (if you use them) lets call it £100 job, it all goes a bit wrong, drain tank, air locks blah blah. Maximum half a day, so, £100 is good (IMO).
The problem is Jase that he would have paid you £100 and may not have anything else for you to do. So, in real terms your earning more than the guy employing you.
I don't believe what customers tell me, I've phoned 6 plumbers no one's interested etc. more like the customer won't pay what is being asked!
Just a small point, not wanting to get into the boring old debate, fast trackers are rubbish, I'm a time served dinosaur etc etc.
Although the older fast tracker has a lot to offer the established plumber, over a 16 year old muppet on his phone all day, unwilling to help, unreliable etc, there is a hell of a lot to learn the tricks of the trade, how to hang a rad quickly and accurately (not the college way), I certainly didn't get paid well by my friend when I started, I do get paid more now though, although still not £100 but certainly the knowledge, experience is well worth it.
If someone wants a whole house heating system renewed, boiler, rads, timers etc there is a lot more profit in this than say changing a set of kitchen taps. Obviously. So, when people say I had to wait 3 weeks to get a plumber, what sort of job is it?
I know a plumber who will not touch the small stuff, just doesn't need it or want it. Thankfully. He gives these customers my number, in return, I give him the boilers (not the two legged type!). It works well, if he gets a job that is a bit too much for one, I take a few days out my diary and work for him.
He can't employ me full time (certainly wouldn't want him to, I like working on my own), even doing the small stuff. Lets say a kitchen tap, relatively straight forward with flexi's (if you use them) lets call it £100 job, it all goes a bit wrong, drain tank, air locks blah blah. Maximum half a day, so, £100 is good (IMO).
The problem is Jase that he would have paid you £100 and may not have anything else for you to do. So, in real terms your earning more than the guy employing you.
I don't believe what customers tell me, I've phoned 6 plumbers no one's interested etc. more like the customer won't pay what is being asked!
Just a small point, not wanting to get into the boring old debate, fast trackers are rubbish, I'm a time served dinosaur etc etc.
Although the older fast tracker has a lot to offer the established plumber, over a 16 year old muppet on his phone all day, unwilling to help, unreliable etc, there is a hell of a lot to learn the tricks of the trade, how to hang a rad quickly and accurately (not the college way), I certainly didn't get paid well by my friend when I started, I do get paid more now though, although still not £100 but certainly the knowledge, experience is well worth it.
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Hybrid
Jase you need to take a step back and decide whether this lark is for you because SE plumbing doesn't seem compatible with your personality.
You need to take the blinkers off and forget everything you've been told by the fast track training centre.Now you've seen why we get so wound up by the nonsense the media spews about plumber's earnings. It's created a myth that isn't harmless, people like yourself are spending a lot of money for a piece of paper that's worthless if it isn't backed up with a massive amount of hard work to get off the ground.
You need to take the blinkers off and forget everything you've been told by the fast track training centre.Now you've seen why we get so wound up by the nonsense the media spews about plumber's earnings. It's created a myth that isn't harmless, people like yourself are spending a lot of money for a piece of paper that's worthless if it isn't backed up with a massive amount of hard work to get off the ground.
i will take you on mate and I will pay you £100 a day ,just contact me next year ! I will help you and i will train you up
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Guest123
I was surprised at this post. Jase didn't appear "Plumbers Mate" going by his posts. Hope it works out for you mate.
your been serious despite the fact that he's not worth £100 a day,i think this has got some thing to do with a thread you posted a while back and got a bit of stick for....?
for a business to make 50,000 a year is perfectly reasonable, but you will have overheads to pay to run that business, if you run a large business with alot of plumbers and alot of work and you are the director of that company, then yes 50,000 a year salary looks about realistic, but thats not going to be easy.
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