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[stevetheplumber]

sent to me from an agency
Combi boiler swap inc local pipework up to 1mtr per service. Powerflush, condense and
commissioning £200.00
SYSTEM/ Regular boiler inc local pipework up to 1mtr per service. Powerflush, condense
and commissioning £190.00
Re-site from back boiler removal £18.00
Vert flue installation complete (installer only) £32.00
Install new cylinder including parl L lagging £60.00
Exchange Unvented Hot Water Cylinder £80.00
Cylinder - convert to fully pumped Y/S plan inc pipe £120
Reconfigure airing cupboard pipework i.e. coldfeed/open vent/reposition/pump/controls inc
pipe £30.00
Fit pressure vessel £20.00
Fit 'Y' or 'S' plan convert to fully pumped inc pipe £85
Fit Auto Bypass Valve ONLY £10.00
Powerflush inc water test £60.00
Fit Magnaclean/Boiler Buddy £12.00
Cold Water Storage HWT £40.00
Fit new radiator including valves and pipework up to 1m £25.00
Fit new radiator valve (not to be used in conjunction with above) £2.00
New pipework 15/22mm including lagging £4.50
Fit new cooker point 1m of pipework & bayonet £17.50
Replace stop tap £5.00
Make good balanced flue hole (12x12) £15.00
Fix boards for boiler install £12.50
Recall attended by other -£30.00
Draindown system - (only to be used with below code indicated with **) £27.50
**exchange S/Y plan valves £5.00
Production of commissioning LGSR £12.50

doesnt say if its cards or s/e but reading it you have to supply pipe and fittings £2 for a rad valve?????

 

[stevetheplumber]

just called them and its self employed own van public liability etc jokers id sooner put needles in my eyes

 

[Millsy 82]

That's a joke! I bet no power flushing machines will be used on those installs!

 

[Nostrum]

So long as mugs keep doing it, they'll keep paying it!

 

[gassafe]

£5 pound for a replacement stop tap lol... I'd rather sit at home than go to work for those prices, there really having a laugh with that list!!

 

[CXR100]

I an tell you now that I would not even change a washer for £5 , replacing a stop tap for £5 is a joke!! ive had some awfull ones!!!!!!!!

 

[hammers4spanner]

I had some agency call me last week offering same sort of rubbish rates ended up having a convo about how poor the rate was . He agreed however he did say their are so many gas fitters and plumbers about that rates won't go up anytime soon.

And thats your problem saturated market .

Even saw an advert today where plumbs getting offered £12 per hour and decorators £12.50 !!!!!

 

[Rickster123]

I get better prices on the cards!

 

[IDCHAPPY]

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
and so on....

 

[kris]

Companies like that will never have guys on books as then they'd be responsible,,, there will always be problems because at the end of the day IF U PAY PEANUTS U GET MONKEYS,,, OOO OOOO OOOO OOO AAAAA AAAA

 

[gasmanrob]

Prices on sites are better then that.

 

[wattsie1987]

That's just hideous.

 

[gasmanrob]

Is that working in voids or occupied? In voids you could make your money easy enough but not supplying pipe and fittings to boot

 

[AWheating]

biggest problem is there is prob so many people taking a cut of the money the customer is paying, main contractor, sub contractor, agency etc....... i bet they are making a good rate.

 

[Ch4 plumbing]

It's a joke, then to add insult to injury the custard will tell you what they are laying out for the job!

 

[rocketmanbkk]

So long as mugs keep doing it, they'll keep paying it!

Polish?

 

[Ch4 plumbing]

biggest problem is there is prob so many people taking a cut of the money the customer is paying, main contractor, sub contractor, agency etc....... i bet they are making a good rate.

The biggest problem is theirs loads of guys who will do it for those prices! Lash it in and run away! Companies who work in this way should be accountable for the mistakes and mess their sub contractors cause.

 

[townfanjon]

Is it April 1 st

 

[Rickster123]

The biggest problem is theirs loads of guys who will do it for those prices! Lash it in and run away! Companies who work in this way should be accountable for the mistakes and mess their sub contractors cause.

Oi! I lash it in and run away, but not on those prices!

 

[Paulplumb]

I really can not believe there are mugs out there willing to accept those prices.

 

[Rickster123]

I wouldn't say mugs. Some people really need to pay the bills and feed the family. I've been so desperate in years gone by that I'd work for peanuts just to survive.

 

[Paulplumb]

I hear yah AP but looking at some of those prices I think you would be making a loss. Fuel, admin, tax, materials etc.

 

[REDSAW]

COMISSIONING AND LLGSC £12.50

WOULDNT EVEN ANSWER PHONE FOR THAT...HAD ONE LAST WEEK BOILER SERVICE AND CP12, wanted to pay £35 for the lot..told him to do one, like chewing wasps

 

[newcastle phill]

Wow - im not charging enough. [emoji1]

 

[kris]

You honestly would make more money stacking shelves at tesco, and that's no exaggeration ,

 

[jonnyswamp]

You honestly would make more money stacking shelves at tesco, and that's no exaggeration ,

You'd make more money with a paper round.....and a tip at christmas

 

[Millsy 82]

The biggest problem is theirs loads of guys who will do it for those prices! Lash it in and run away! Companies who work in this way should be accountable for the mistakes and mess their sub contractors cause.

My thoughts exactly. The buck stops with the small guy at the bottom getting paid peanuts where really the company should get looked at as well.

That is really the only way of stopping the boilers that get thrown in.

 

[kay-jay]

Christ on a bike!even the local handyman would charge more .

 

[Rickster123]

My bet would be it's housing association or council work. The money that company's make on these contracts now is peanuts so the prices are always low. But u could still do a grand a week without breaking sweat.

 

[kay-jay]

My bet would be it's housing association or council work. The money that company's make on these contracts now is peanuts so the prices are always low. But u could still do a grand a week without breaking sweat.

Only if all the houses are next door to each other. Otherwise it would be a struggle

 

[Rickster123]

5 combi swaps a week? You could do that and be home for lunch most days...

 

[kay-jay]

5 combi swaps a week? You could do that and be home for lunch most days...

Whats the chances of that.
Agency will probably have you fitting Magna cleans and rad valves 3 days a week.

 

[Rickster123]

Whats the chances of that.
Agency will probably have you fitting Magna cleans and rad valves 3 days a week.

You northerners are soooo negative!...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[hammers4spanner]

This is why I am trying to move away from any form of contract work its laughable now . When I worked for mears their was a gas contract manager who was promoted from painting decorating !!!
The rates are pants have been for several years now .
What I suggest doing tell them you will do the work but send over your terms conditions the ones with the full set of bells where any form of downtime is charged at pound a minute . Any parking issues is chargeable to them travel time is by the minute plus mileage etc etc.
Reverse the trend I say

 

[Millsy 82]

5 combi swaps a week? You could do that and be home for lunch most days...

Not with a power flush though. That's going to take half a day at least on its own to do a thorough job.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not with a power flush though. That's going to take half a day at least on its own to do a thorough job.

thats what speedfit pipe is for esp if there next door to each 🙂 link them all together and do one big flush 😀

 

[Rickster123]

Not with a power flush though. That's going to take half a day at least on its own to do a thorough job.

Oh come on, nobody powerflushes really do they? Do they?!?...

 

[gasmanrob]

Oh come on, nobody powerflushes really do they? Do they?!?...

Not on any contract I've ever seen!! Domestic privately owned yes but contract work no.

I know one bloke doing between 2 and 3 combo swaps a day at £200 each plus extra if they need a gas run

 

[Rickster123]

Not on any contract I've ever seen!! Domestic privately owned yes but contract work no.

I know one bloke doing between 2 and 3 combo swaps a day at £200 each plus extra if they need a gas run

I used to do two. But I'm getting old now and less greedy!

 

[wattsie1987]

I do a lot of boiler changes and that's pretty much all i do (580 in 5 years) and if someone can change a combi and flush the system, fit condense (these can take an hour or two at times) commission correctly, make good and explain the operation to the customer and be home by lunch I'd love to watch! Not to mention top floor flats issues parking and so on. I do all the above fit scale reducer mini exp vessel and magnaclean, change all rad valves and upgrade controls where needed and that's a good 12-16 hours graft.

 

[Rickster123]

Come and watch and learn wattsie, watch and learn...

 

[wattsie1987]

Come and watch and learn wattsie, watch and learn...

Haha I'm sure they'll look delightful! The amount i change that are 5 years and under is unreal totally chocked up and rotting from the inside out. Heating contracts......

 

[gasmanrob]

Prices dictate the quality of work. Which this thread shows. So long as it's safe what can you do about it

 

[wattsie1987]

Prices dictate the quality of work. Which this thread shows. So long as it's safe what can you do about it

Just glad I'm not caught up in price driven shenanigans!

 

[Rickster123]

Just glad I'm not caught up in price driven shenanigans!

Do you do contract work wattsie? What areas you working?

 

[AWheating]

2-3 combi swaps a day, wow thats 6 hours for the fernox cleaner to circulate alone..........

what i ment to say is £30 for 3 bottles of fernox on ebay as a bonus.


Just do what i do now, i sign somebodys elses gas safe details on all the under gased, non flushed £150 boiler changes i do. Sumtimes i even gas rate them and patch the flue, probably atleast 5% of the time.

 

[Millsy 82]

Oh come on, nobody powerflushes really do they? Do they?!?...

No they don't, it's not possible in the time/ money that people are paying now. I know when a bloke I worked for subbed me to iguana he told me not to powerflush them as the prices were carp (and the only job I got picked up for not powerflushing was a full new central heating system!)

BUT the customer has usually paid for it to be powerflushed so it should be done and people shouldn't take the jobs on if they are not going to do what they are paid for.

 

[hammers4spanner]

Lets be honest nearly all these jobs where your given boiler change or conversion are never flushed. I expect also the majority are not even gas rated a nor pressure's checked accordingly. Helplink only offer you £160 to fit a new combi with a power flush , cust pays about £3000 and expect a power flush yeah right . As far as I'm concerned if i choose to work for help link for e.g i am helping to put them out of business by installing utter carp.

That can't be a bad thing !!

 

[wattsie1987]

Do you do contract work wattsie? What areas you working?

No mate LGA and my own bits. Mostly Southampton and surrounding.