HALL of SHAME PHOTo`s

[PriestyUK]

Arh man why go to all that effort, just get a pan that fits, also I hate DIY'ers and flexi's! Swear its not even pushed in all the way. Great photo for hall of shame any how 😀

 

[Rckape]

I was replacing a soil stack for a mate yesterday, when I was at the top of the ladder cutting out the old stack I peered over next doors' roof to see this shining example of a plume kit.

The installer had notched out the gutter perfectly to pass the flue through, supported by a bit of silicone round the gutter half way and a cable tie round the gutter at the top.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Can't tell from pics but doesn't seem any need for all that ?

 

[Rckape]

The flue is definitely too close to the opening but I'm not sure that plume kit installation was the right solution.

It does look a bit too close even with the kit.

 

[plumben]

wouldn't this weaken the pan?

 

[Millsy 82]

The installer was probably fed up of customers supplying back to wall pans when they cant physically have them!Ive had it a couple of times even after saying do not buy a back to wall pan as I cant fit one without building a false wall or running soil outside, What did I get yep 2 back to wall pans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rpm]

The installer was probably fed up of customers supplying back to wall pans when they cant physically have them!Ive had it a couple of times even after saying do not buy a back to wall pan as I cant fit one without building a false wall or running soil outside, What did I get yep 2 back to wall pans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had one this morning with a Sanislim shoehorned in behind it, luckily for me I could reach the problem area otherwise it would of meant pan and pump coming out as one. That`s fine when installing as it`s all new, empty and clean but 5yrs later it ain`t so fine for me or the customer.

 

[Millsy 82]

Had one this morning with a Sanislim shoehorned in behind it, luckily for me I could reach the problem area otherwise it would of meant pan and pump coming out as one. That`s fine when installing as it`s all new, empty and clean but 5yrs later it ain`t so fine for me or the customer.

Yuk!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

The flue is definitely too close to the opening but I'm not sure that plume kit installation was the right solution.

It does look a bit too close even with the kit.

dont think the window opens, only top opener

 

[Rckape]

dont think the window opens, only top opener

You're quite right. I've always taken it as the whole window (building opening) as that's what I was taught at college. I've just checked BS5440 and it's only the opening section of the window itself that counts - Good to know. A bit of a misunderstanding with terminology there, luckily I've never had to change my plan A on the basis of it. Every days a school day.

It does still look a bit close for the 150mm allowance for structural and temperature issues though. I know it's unlikely to cause any issues, especially with the flue temperature of modern boilers, but rules is rules.

It's the route of the kit that made me chuckle, it must have been a right pain cutting it through the gutter. At least it's not cast iron like the main roof gutter.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You're quite right. I've always taken it as the whole window (building opening) as that's what I was taught at college. I've just checked BS5440 and it's only the opening section of the window itself that counts - Good to know. A bit of a misunderstanding with terminology there, luckily I've never had to change my plan A on the basis of it. Every days a school day.

It does still look a bit close for the 150mm allowance for structural and temperature issues though. I know it's unlikely to cause any issues, especially with the flue temperature of modern boilers, but rules is rules.

It's the route of the kit that made me chuckle, it must have been a right pain cutting it through the gutter. At least it's not cast iron like the main roof gutter.

think that was to take in effect if the window gets changed etc and still a great pic

 

[rpm]

think that was to take in effect if the window gets changed

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

 

[Riley]

That's the thing isn't it whatever you install shouldn't prevent a neighbour altering their property

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

yea thats why if close to a window ie top open take a pic of the window with he flue in place as no come back then

 

[Riley]

yea thats why if close to a window ie top open take a pic of the window with he flue in place as no come back then

Camera phone is your friend

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Camera phone is your friend

these days especially and for you older folk a polaroid would be ok

 

[Rckape]

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

It just goes to show, it never hurts to be more cautious. Luckily it's never been an issue for me, I think i'll still carry on as before, but have the allowance in the back of my mind for that one job and make sure i've got my phone with me. :wink5:

 

[Millsy 82]

Seem to remember an installer being taken to court because a window in a hotel was changed after the installation. It`s in an old thread somewhere.

That was in Newquay and there was more to it than the window if I remember correctly.

 

[Keefy]

 

[Riley]

that is very dark!!!!

 

[Keefy]

that is very dark!!!!

'Very dark'? What is?

Anyway, here's another.

 

[Rickster123]

'Very dark'? What is?

Anyway, here's another.

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You northerners and your old fashioned ways...

 

[Toxic Ted]

I think yorkshire has come on a bit since then.............only a bit tho.....:1eye:

 

[dave1]

Basin mixer???

 

[1Steven]

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That a 100ft coin operated meter shilling at a time. I remember them. Oldest one I took out was 1923.

 

[plumben]

Can anyone spot the lovely mistake/incompetents

 

[ShaunCorbs]

iso valve on the gas line

but bet you the paints sealed it 😀

 

[rpm]

Think the clue is in the bottom right hand corner. lol

Why have 2 iso valves back to back?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Think the clue is in the bottom right hand corner. lol

Why have 2 iso valves back to back?

test point mate

 

[rpm]

test point mate

Come again, test point?

I`m not gsr but those on a gas line?

 

[rpm]

I`m not gsr but those on a gas line?

A quick google says they are ok. Surprised that's all.

 

[Sparkgap]

A quick google says they are ok. Surprised that's all.

Had plenty of ballofix-type valves leak with water let alone gas. I'd use a proper lever gas valve anyday.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

A quick google says they are ok. Surprised that's all.

the only iso valve on the gas line (closest the boiler eg left one) is not allowed but the test point is for working standing pressures (right/ lowest on the gas pipe)

 

[plumben]

Yeah ISO on the gas pipe above an isolatable test point, hopefully I'll be ripping it all out tomorrow and sticking a new boiler in anyway

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah ISO on the gas pipe above an isolatable test point, hopefully I'll be ripping it all out tomorrow and sticking a new boiler in anyway

hope your leaving the iso in easy to change, dont have to turn the meter/ecv off 😀

 

[plumben]

hope your leaving the iso in easy to change, dont have to turn the meter/ecv off 😀

Well you know I would do but the new boilers going in upstairs as the kitchen needs gutting 😉

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Well you know I would do but the new boilers going in upstairs as the kitchen needs gutting 😉

shame as them hand painted tiles will get damaged in the process 😀

 

[Destroyer2813]

Why haven't you got your little yellow badge yet

 

[plumben]

Why haven't you got your little yellow badge yet

I haven't got my little plastic gas safe card yet or my certificates

 

[plumben]

I haven't got my little plastic gas safe card yet or my certificates

I do work with a gas safe guy though for all of the gas work I do, Intact I basically do all of his gas work

 

[jonnyswamp]

A leak I was called to after a plumber repaired it 2 weeks ago

He had just resoldered the reducer without removing and cleaning etc and when he couldn't stop the drip he simply left a deep sandwich box underneath it (gatepost guarantee) which took 2 weels to fill and overflow through the ceiling again
Also in the next joist was this

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/03/05/8ad698b25af887781866c2e9cf0e4a40.jpg[/IMGpair of flexis joining some rad drops, which were also leaking
Whilst draining down I managed to give his car a wash at the same time (ends of hoses jumping around due to air in system)
[IMG]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/03/05/d8fb9ed5156c5f4d536ae792928f101d.jpg
Cut out the 28mm tee and replaced, also got rid of the flexis and rigid piped it
Was only supposed to be a leak on a rad ffs

 

[Ch4 plumbing]

Bet he loved the inhibitor on the paint work!

Some people are just to lazy to do what they are paid for, did you keep the plastic tub lol

 

[jonnyswamp]

Yeah, it was a probly a M&S one, not your usual takeaway container
(up market part of Cardiff, 6 or 7 bedder, dentists, minted)

 

[Howsie]

 

[Atouchofgas]

WTF is that monstrosity

 

[newcastle phill]

Man that is a beauty.
Here is an average customers car round here

 

[Howsie]

WTF is that monstrosity

UFH manifold...

 

[Atouchofgas]

Meant to be

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

clearly fitted by a special sort of person

 

[Alex Knight]

Some from the last couple of weeks

Also had a cylinder that had been connected to mains water pressure bypassing the tank in the loft.

Plus a flexicom with no condense connected that had been leaking for a good while under kitchen units

 

[Mr Wilson]

best thread ever... took me 2 days to look at all the posts but well worth it .

:clap:

 

[Mr Wilson]

best thread ever... took me 2 days to look at all the posts but well worth it .

:clap:


sorry seeing double

 

[Best]

Here is a condensing pipe on a Grant oil boiler done by idiots. Note they obviously threw the plastic connector away and used a brass compression bend. I have fitted a PRV and a manual vent on boiler. Wouldn't be safe if someone turned the two gatevalves off!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

 

[Paulplumb]

You were quick off the mark there Shaun. I edited my post to er sanitise it but the quote reveals all 🙂 Could a friendly admin please edit? Many thanks

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

You were quick off the mark there Shaun. I edited my post to er sanitise it but the quote reveals all 🙂 Could a friendly admin please edit? Many thanks

sorted

 

[newcastle phill]

I bet you drew those cock and balls shaun ??

 

[Koogatubac]

Installed less than a month ago!

 

[WaterTight]

 

[1Steven]

Called to this job, wasn't working properly!

 

[1Steven]

Screw driver keeping the electrics on.

 

[chris watkins]

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Called to this job, wasn't working properly!

Go on then apart from no pipe insulations whats wrong ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

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Screw driver keeping the electrics on.

😀 nice restriction on the filters

 

[1Steven]

Yes Shaun that's why he is my exboss! Quote it will be alright! :death:

 

[1Steven]

Go on then apart from no pipe insulations whats wrong ?

Look at the pipework off the cylinder. Pic is a bit small.

 

[macackau]

Look at the pipework off the cylinder. Pic is a bit small.

Lack of open vent?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Lack of open vent?

piped the wrong way round i think

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes Shaun that's why he is my exboss! Quote it will be alright! :death:

hope its not a wet area also 😀

what do the contractors supply?

 

[chris watkins]

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Called to this job, wasn't working properly!

Isn't it a Warix? if so it is piped correctly.

 

[tolly]

yep, warix is the other way round to surrey flanges.

 

[tolly]

the brass comp elbow gives away the fact its a warix, so it is piped up the right way round

 

[1Steven]

Isn't it a Warix? if so it is piped correctly.
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Well another school day, Thankyou for pointing this out. It's what I like about this forum, your never to old to learn.

 

[Crinkmeister]

As a mere amateur, can you educate me about what is special about a Warix please?

 

[plumben]

As a mere amateur, can you educate me about what is special about a Warix please?

I'd surgest you start a new thread in the plumbing section of this forum as your more likely to get a better response from other users Plumbing Forum

 

[gpbeck]

Sorry can't link image

 

[SimonG]

Couldnt miss this one 🙂

 

[Riley]

This was the solution to a wrongly installed flue that I raised a couple of months back

 

[rpm]

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Couldnt miss this one 🙂

Nasty crack you`ve got there Simon.

 

[Clint 1979]

Found this work of art in Croydon yesterday......hmmmm

 

[Clint 1979]

Sorry don't know how to turn the pic

 

[plumben]

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Found this work of art in Croydon yesterday......hmmmm

Quality job,

 

[SimonG]

Nasty crack you`ve got there Simon.

You want to see the other side 🙂

 

[1Steven]

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Found this work of art in Croydon yesterday......hmmmm

I would complain about the those vertical bricks! :dizzy2:

 

[mountainman]

That soil pipe hasn't got enough fall on it.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

 

[Best]

It's all very jammed together and not exactly very serviceable, but what else is wrong Shaun?
Edit, - that looks like the pipework is permanently bypassed?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

soldering is interesting 😀

 

[Best]

soldering is interesting 😀

Looks like they wipe the joints. I think that is fine to do with leaded soldering and looks alright if done neatly. But I think a lot of that is rough and also it has been more like spreading solder all over.
I still think there is something wrong with the pipework. Looks like the bypass is irrelevant as the pipes are already joined. Or am I wrong?

 

[plumben]

Looks like they wipe the joints. I think that is fine to do with leaded soldering and looks alright if done neatly. But I think a lot of that is rough and also it has been more like spreading solder all over.
I still think there is something wrong with the pipework. Looks like the bypass is irrelevant as the pipes are already joined. Or am I wrong?

Looks like they've uses half a roll on that bottom tee

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Looks like they've uses half a roll on that bottom tee

thats what got my attention first 😀

and best bypass looks right

after pump but before mv

not straight tho which is - points 😀

 

[Best]

thats what got my attention first 😀

and best bypass looks right

after pump but before mv

not straight tho which is - points 😀

But behind the bypass valve, - it looks in photo as if the pipes are joined together with a tee off going to an elbow?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

But behind the bypass valve, - it looks in photo as if the pipes are joined together with a tee off going to an elbow?

Drain off cock type a I think

 

[Best]

Drain off cock type a I think

You are right Shaun. My mistake, I can see it know. It had the illusion of a pipe joining to an elbow in my eyesight.

 

[gmartine]

Looks like they tried to pack it all within the width of one kitchen cabinet, what floor stander is that btw Shaun?

 

[Best]

Looks like they tried to pack it all within the width of one kitchen cabinet, what floor stander is that btw Shaun?

I was wondering about the same. Looks similar to an oil boiler - Grant Vortex

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Post up a guess martine and will see whose close

 

[gmartine]

Post up a guess martine and will see whose close

Firebird?

 

[mutley racers]

How is this for an install. Wonky boiler, piles all over the shop and can you imagine having to change the cylinder?

 

[Best]

I arrived to service a Warmflow combi oil boiler that was in constant use and looked on the outside wall and asked the guy where the flue was. He said, It is in here somewhere, and started to pull the turf up to reveal this.

And the boiler room is part of the basement of the house and the young couple have a baby.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Do I see a water main down there as well best ?