Advise on Flue Terminations

[ShaunCorbs]

Hope the flue is going to be accessible for any inspection, Cant believe that he doesn't do vertical flues !

left on show also indoor washing line/hanger

 

[jtsplumbing]

left on show also indoor washing line/hanger

I'll keep a look out in the installer mag, those photos could turn up !! :book:

 

[Afzal Abrar]

Sorry to say this, your flue is less than 200mm to the building opening.

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Window is permanently Closed , Not Openable

 

[ShaunCorbs]

doesnt matter sorry to say

"300mm above, below and either side of an opening door, air vent or opening window"

 

[AlexGas]

Window is permanently Closed , Not Openable

It is now, very true. But what do you think about this one?
Engineers fined over Cornwall hotel death safety breach - BBC News

 

[Afzal Abrar]

doesnt matter sorry to say

"300mm above, below and either side of an opening door, air vent or opening window"

It does matter if you read the thread from start then you'll understand the real story , rather than making fun ..

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It does matter if you read the thread from start then you'll understand the real story , rather than making fun ..

I have read the thread from the beginning trust me and does it change anything no still doesn't comply with the regs

 

[buckley plumb]

I thought vaillant plume kit was worded as termination variation and could be used to come over termination issues .have they changed things

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I thought vaillant plume kit was worded as termination variation and could be used to come over termination issues .have they changed things

you are right good sir

https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/vaillant-variable-termination-kits/

 

[buckley plumb]

why cant they standardise things .some flues can use plume kits some cant .some can have white on show others cant .can you imagine such stupid variable rules at car mot station - o its ok sir that's a ford it does not need front brakes

 

[ShaunCorbs]

why cant they standardise things .some flues can use plume kits some cant .some can have white on show others cant .can you imagine such stupid variable rules at car mot station - o its ok sir that's a ford it does not need front brakes

just put every flue like the worcester (can add a plume kit later on with no changing/fuss)

 

[Leo21]

That looks like the new Vaillant flue. In which case you can't use a plume kit to correct non-compliant terminal position. And you're right, the stack is also too close...

You can Mas, if you call technical they'll email it to you.

 

[PlumbersMate]

So even if window can't open it still can't be closer than 300mm?

 

[Atouchofgas]

That's right is what I would say, if the window is shut but has trickle vent you have a opening?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

That's right is what I would say, if the window is shut but has trickle vent you have a opening?

or the window gets changed later on to an open-able one

 

[SPC]

I'm not sure I agree with that, it's like saying I can't flue out the side of a building in case a builder builds an extension over it. We need a bit of good faith in humanity and hope they will use reputable tradesmen in future who can advise accordingly or seek the appropriate advice.

 

[ambrosia]

In which case you can't use a plume kit to correct non-compliant terminal position

what have i missed something, is this just a vaillant thing or has a new important rule passed me by

 

[Atouchofgas]

Technically speaking we've never actually been allowed to do it?
This from corgi in 2009
http://www.a1gassafe.co.uk/pdf/TECHNICAL_BULLETIN_231.pdf

 

[Leo21]

They brought a ruling in for opening in the fabric of the building, because there was a case where a new window was fitted with an opener. And ther was a fatality.
If you contact Vaillant, they'll send you some info, where as you can have it 150mm away from an opening instead of 300mm. With a plume kit.

 

[Masood]

You can Mas, if you call technical they'll email it to you.

I stand corrected! When I did the Level 2 training at Vaillant they said very firmly that it was a no-no. Obviously they've relaxed a bit now. Ideal were the same, I wonder if they've also changed their stance??