Apprentices

[cr0ft]

Totally agree, different people like to mould apprentices their way. I prefer the strict ways, just because thats where i learnt and stuff started sticking in my head.

Erm's comment is absolute spot on! What he said it always happens! Especially if your giving him a massive responsibility of your franchise, but then again, its all up to you croft 🙂

Will only do it when I feel he's ready. He's just had a kid (unexpected) which is his motivator so I think he is genuinly excited about the possibility of running a ready made business in a few years.

He is ex-military and his standards are good. I think I have found a good one on reading this thread!

 

[Kev the gas]

£2.80 an hour, ex military guy !

8 hrs a day gives him £112 a week, crikey I would be careful as he may well be on his way sooner than you think.

 

[Kev the gas]

To qualify my above post, the apprentice painter on site this week is paid £ 50 a day. 20 years old with 6 months in the job.

 

[tamz]

National minimum wage 2013/2014: Adult rate to increase by 1.9% to £6.31 per hour | XpertHR - Pay Intelligence

Minimum wages, including apprenticeship rates. £2.65/hour is currently the minimum wage for year 1 apprentices.

English plumbers rates
http://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/SNIJIBPMES Wage Agreement from July 201311-13096.pdf
Scottish rates
http://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/SNIJIBPMES Wage Agreement from July 201311-13096.pdf
Electricians rates England
http://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/JIBIndDet2013201411-5454.pdf

 

[IDCHAPPY]

I remember when I first started on sites as a mate, I was on £4.04 ph, them were the days :lol:

 

[Kev the gas]

I started with bg in 1986 and used to take home £60 a week inc London Weighting, can't remember the tax or ni if applicable then ( 16 years old ) for a 38hr week works out at £1.58 an hour, was well chuffed at the time.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Blimey, walk in off the street to us, no qualifications or experience, but good attitude, and its £300 pw start. At 6 months at least 10% more than that. Plus profit share. And matching pension contribution.

Send your man down to me Keiran, we'll find a job for him.

 

[Koogatubac]

Lowest ive ever been was working in morrisons stacking shelves at £3.95 a hour, had that job aswell as being a apprentice haha

 

[Ray Stafford]

Lowest I have worked for is 30p a bucket, picking blackcurrants.

I still can't drink Ribena, because the best way to make sure that a bucket of black currants weights 12.5lbs, (you didn't get paid if it was underweight) was to p1ss in it.

During the 70s, I reckon 5% of all blackcurrant juice products consisted of the pickers piddle.

 

[kirkgas]

I started on the YOP scheme in 1978 on £0.46 per hour

 

[jefaz]

How old is he? Ex military too? That's a minimum 4 year commitment.

 

[fogarty]

Blimey, walk in off the street to us, no qualifications or experience, but good attitude, and its £300 pw start. At 6 months at least 10% more than that. Plus profit share. And matching pension contribution.

Send your man down to me Keiran, we'll find a job for him.

Ray, when are you opening in Barnsley? I can start Monday.

 

[JAH HEATING]

I took home £190 a week first year, second about £220 by third I was able to earn bonus an by fourth year was on site doing y plans getting decent doe

 

[tamz]

I posted the wrong link to English plumbers rates earlier. Here they are.
http://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/JIB PMES Rates & Allowances 2014-201511-13200.pdf

 

[Ray Stafford]

I posted the wrong link to English plumbers rates earlier. Here they are.
http://www.unitetheunion.org/uploaded/documents/JIB PMES Rates & Allowances 2014-201511-13200.pdf

Heres a funny thing.

I have been in the industry for 28 years, and that is the first time that I have ever seen "union" rates.

 

[LPC]

I just took on an apprentice about 3 weeks before xmas. I pay him £50 a day. He's doing some sort of plumbing college course and actually knows a little bit.

At the moment he's not really helping me at all because I have to check everything he does but he's well worth it at the moment just for getting him to drill holes, tidy up, hoover etc. He's very quiet, and sometimes he says he has done something when he hasn't etc. But he's only 21 and when I was 21 I was bloody useless.

Looking pretty good so far though.

 

[tamz]

Not specifically known as union rates Ray. JIB rates.

 

[Killy Bing]

First year i got nowt......

 

[cr0ft]

How old is he? Ex military too? That's a minimum 4 year commitment.

He is 21 mate. I will be straight with him re wages the whole time. As soon as he can do small jobs on his own unsupervised he will be on minimum wage with his own van. Until then to be honest he is of limited use to the business and £2.80p (paid 5 days a week for 4 days of work) is a fair reflection of how fast he is relative to a qualified plumber imo. Yes, I agree it's tough to live off, but he has a goal of running a franchise in 3 years.

The plasterer is paying his apprentice the same rate. I don't think it would be attractive to a small business to take someone on in their first year for more than that to be honest.

 

[cr0ft]

Blimey, walk in off the street to us, no qualifications or experience, but good attitude, and its £300 pw start. At 6 months at least 10% more than that. Plus profit share. And matching pension contribution.

Send your man down to me Keiran, we'll find a job for him.

In the current climate I think you will have a few people on here asking you for a job!!