Raised on different practice then if you don't even do a tightness test for a gas cert....legal or not!
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Gas Cert Work vs Installations?
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I was surprised recently when I read in the gas safe mag a tightness test wasn't mandatory for a gas safety check!
Always do it my self.
Bibbs118
Gas Engineer
WOW! A TT isn't required to issue a cp12? But there's a question on the cert. Very weird .
To the OP, monkeys work for peanuts, Gas Engineers go to prison if we miss something and someone dies.
£30 is an absolute insult, I do them for £50 for customers how have a couple of houses, and in you've got 100s of houses it's still min £50 .
Go and sell you business idea else where, why the Damn would I want to make you rich you muppet? By offering £30 you are actually encouraging people to rush, cut corners and endanger life.
Please be so kind as to take your business idea, shove it up your arse and Damn off while you're doing it.
Regards.
To the OP, monkeys work for peanuts, Gas Engineers go to prison if we miss something and someone dies.
£30 is an absolute insult, I do them for £50 for customers how have a couple of houses, and in you've got 100s of houses it's still min £50 .
Go and sell you business idea else where, why the Damn would I want to make you rich you muppet? By offering £30 you are actually encouraging people to rush, cut corners and endanger life.
Please be so kind as to take your business idea, shove it up your arse and Damn off while you're doing it.
Regards.
Yep dont need to tt on a llgsc only gas rate or input pressure and fga basically (on a boiler)
Bibbs118
Gas Engineer
I guess it makes sense don't have to do a TT on a service.
Just thinking about the op total cert vs installation. It's like he's saying what you rather do, work like a Japanese beaver all day or do some nice certs. What this clown doesn't realise is, lots of boiler installers aren't even qualified to do certs on fire and cookers.
Maybe if he was asking for 10％ of a cert price he may have some takers, 10％ finders fee is OK in my opinion, but 50 percent, hahahahaha. Get Damned
Just thinking about the op total cert vs installation. It's like he's saying what you rather do, work like a Japanese beaver all day or do some nice certs. What this clown doesn't realise is, lots of boiler installers aren't even qualified to do certs on fire and cookers.
Maybe if he was asking for 10％ of a cert price he may have some takers, 10％ finders fee is OK in my opinion, but 50 percent, hahahahaha. Get Damned
So, to break it down....get in your car/van, drive to the job, find parking, get out tools, walk to the house door, introduce yourself, carry out the checks/service etc, complete a certificate, tidy up, say goodbye and get back to your car/van ready to get in to drive to the next job, for £30.00-£40.00?
As I have said before, there are plenty of engineers out there that will snap your hand off.
shyguy2005
Gas Engineer
£60 each Cert all day long for me. No less .
DGT plumbing
Gas Engineer
Cert alone £60. Cert and service £80. boiler and hob. other appliances extra £20. I used to do service and cert work for a local letting company in 2012/13. They paid £100 a ticket regardless of appliances. I didn't have to haggle for that price, it was what they offered me. Happy days. They sold there lettings division to another not so generous agent. Good while it lasted.
999
Gas Engineer
Intresting thread 🙂
With the responsibilty of gas engineers even £60 is a low price. Putting your name on a legal document, we all should be charging way more but then theres competition thats keeps the price too low in my eyes. I charge £60 as thats what everyone else is charging.
Watched a gardener come into my clients garden today, blow away the leaves and left after 10 minutes £40 and not legal document signed......
With the responsibilty of gas engineers even £60 is a low price. Putting your name on a legal document, we all should be charging way more but then theres competition thats keeps the price too low in my eyes. I charge £60 as thats what everyone else is charging.
Watched a gardener come into my clients garden today, blow away the leaves and left after 10 minutes £40 and not legal document signed......
I used to rent my house out. Used to pay around £60 (plus VAT, if the RGI was VAT registered) for a certificate on the boiler and cooker, more if the boiler needed cleaning. Took around 30 minutes IIRC. That, I felt, was a fair price, though to be honest I never shopped around based on price anyway and this was years ago.
Now, as a plumber myself, I won't go out for less than £45 if it's local. Tried working for less but worked out that any less than that and I may as well get a full-time National Living Wage of £7.83 job. No van, no diesel, no insurance, no NI bill at the end of the year, no spending evenings quoting, and no need to worry about anything except remembering to take my lunch in, and money in my account every single Friday.
One customer did find someone 'cheaper' than me, he thinks, but I'm pretty sure the work the other guy did was dangerous and illegal, though I only saw a photo.
Generally, I get repeat custom and recommendations, so I must be doing something right.
As someone who has made significant investment in training, tools, and time, I expect to earn over the Living Wage of £9 an hour, counting all hours and after all expenses at the very least and I'm not even gas registered.
I have plenty of sympathy for those who refuse to cut corners and put others at risk by failing to do their jobs properly just so as to give people a cheap job. Tell your clients that if they want a cheaper Landlord's certificate, they may as well write it out themselves for all it would be worth, but you get the job done properly and it costs ---.
Now, as a plumber myself, I won't go out for less than £45 if it's local. Tried working for less but worked out that any less than that and I may as well get a full-time National Living Wage of £7.83 job. No van, no diesel, no insurance, no NI bill at the end of the year, no spending evenings quoting, and no need to worry about anything except remembering to take my lunch in, and money in my account every single Friday.
One customer did find someone 'cheaper' than me, he thinks, but I'm pretty sure the work the other guy did was dangerous and illegal, though I only saw a photo.
Generally, I get repeat custom and recommendations, so I must be doing something right.
As someone who has made significant investment in training, tools, and time, I expect to earn over the Living Wage of £9 an hour, counting all hours and after all expenses at the very least and I'm not even gas registered.
I have plenty of sympathy for those who refuse to cut corners and put others at risk by failing to do their jobs properly just so as to give people a cheap job. Tell your clients that if they want a cheaper Landlord's certificate, they may as well write it out themselves for all it would be worth, but you get the job done properly and it costs ---.
Presumably, you are qestioning MY training? At what point did I say I did ANY CP12's for commission agents , let alone the cut throat mob? When I do a CP12, any OF appliance is properly serviced, and at a higher rate than is often mentioned here. However, I do kniw the rules, and explain to new clients MY T&C's. I do not lie to them, by incorrectly stating that a TT or a service is REQUIRED on a tenented property. If they want a basic check on a non OF appliance, that is what they get. Their house, their money. A LOT of guys here get basic facts wrong. The fact is that a CP12 does not REQUIRE a TT. This has been discussed countless times, yet you still get it wrong. My point was that the OP will probably not be asking for a service, but a bare bones CP12 - and there are plenty of LL's happy with that, and a lot of RGIs willing to perform. British Gas DO NOT TT even on a "service", except, more recently, when a gas fire is involved.
Exactly my point. You are, presumably, qualified - and have only recently understood a basic rule.
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