Gas Cert Work vs Installations?

[Rob Foster]

There are two types of business people hunters and farmers.The Hunter is greedy and kills the cow eats burgers for 3 months and starves to death. The farmer ME and my associates just milk the cow for years. Set ur model up with the gas engineers getting £100 + per visit, then add ur small % then see what the final price is and come back to us then my boys were the best paid in Merseyside and it worked.
Rob Foster aka centralheatking

 

[Last Plumber]

There are two types of business people hunters and farmers.The Hunter is greedy and kills the cow eats burgers for 3 months and starves to death. The farmer ME and my associates just milk the cow for years. Set ur model up with the gas engineers getting £100 + per visit, then add ur small % then see what the final price is and come back to us then my boys were the best paid in Merseyside and it worked.
Rob Foster aka centralheatking

There is something in this, I agree.
If you pay the workforce well, they see that they get good money, job satisfaction and little of the organisation, pricing work, dealing with problems and paperwork etc.
A lot would take that as opposed to being self employed. They also work to keep their jobs because they know they are on a good number.

 

[sammathias]

I know guys who work for liberty gas they do 10 jobs (cp12s) a day I think they’re on £20 per appliance.

They will do a gas fire and boiler in 30mins and away they go.

Me personally your looking at around 2 hours for a cp12 with a fire and boiler.

I would like to be as quick as them I need to ask them what do they have for breakfast.

Half hour to do a boiler at fire. That's ludacris!!

By time I've taken tools out of van, greeted customer, done a let by and tightness test that's probably about 10+ minutes gone already.

 

[AMGasServices]

Half hour to do a boiler at fire. That's ludacris!!

By time I've taken tools out of van, greeted customer, done a let by and tightness test that's probably about 10+ minutes gone already.

I think they have rocket fuel to drink in the morning lol.

In my opinion their trick is tightness test, analyse the boiler, stick a smoke bomb under the fire (air gap), check outside for the smoke and cp12 complete.

A lad I know was approached by liberty gas to work on a social housing contact they expect him to visit 13 houses a day. I told him are you nuts it’s not worth it.

 

[firemant]

TBF, the OP at no point mentioned a service. He said Gas Cert. So, technically, no legal reason to even do a TT, and certainly not a service. I suspect , though, he is not offering £40 for a Poke and Go, which plenty of guys are happy to do for BG for £20.

 

[sammathias]

Raised on different practice then if you don't even do a tightness test for a gas cert....legal or not!

 

[billski]

Raised on different practice then if you don't even do a tightness test for a gas cert....legal or not!

I was surprised recently when I read in the gas safe mag a tightness test wasn't mandatory for a gas safety check!
Always do it my self.

 

[Bibbs118]

WOW! A TT isn't required to issue a cp12? But there's a question on the cert. Very weird .

To the OP, monkeys work for peanuts, Gas Engineers go to prison if we miss something and someone dies.

£30 is an absolute insult, I do them for £50 for customers how have a couple of houses, and in you've got 100s of houses it's still min £50 .

Go and sell you business idea else where, why the Damn would I want to make you rich you muppet? By offering £30 you are actually encouraging people to rush, cut corners and endanger life.

Please be so kind as to take your business idea, shove it up your arse and Damn off while you're doing it.

Regards.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yep dont need to tt on a llgsc only gas rate or input pressure and fga basically (on a boiler)

 

[Bibbs118]

I guess it makes sense don't have to do a TT on a service.

Just thinking about the op total cert vs installation. It's like he's saying what you rather do, work like a Japanese beaver all day or do some nice certs. What this clown doesn't realise is, lots of boiler installers aren't even qualified to do certs on fire and cookers.

Maybe if he was asking for 10％ of a cert price he may have some takers, 10％ finders fee is OK in my opinion, but 50 percent, hahahahaha. Get Damned

 

[Bibbs118]

Why would I want to do 10 a day for £30 and make you money, when I can do 5 a day for £60 and be in the pub for 2.30?

 

[Mark K]

Hi wondered if I could ask a question about preferences as a registered plumber?

In the process of developing a product for registered plumbers which in a nutshell collates requests for gas safety certificates from our network of customers and estate agents and offers them registered plumbers who are part of our network.

We can provide 5 - 10 certs per plumber per day based on the volume we have and for this volume we normally pay between £30 - £40 per certificate so roughly averages out about £200 - £300 a day plus any work you get out of condemed boilers etc..

I'm a little concerned about reliability of people turning up at time arranged with the client so I just wanted to find out whether there is a preference for certs over installations? And whether this level of work is too much for a single person in a day?

Appreciate any help

So, to break it down....get in your car/van, drive to the job, find parking, get out tools, walk to the house door, introduce yourself, carry out the checks/service etc, complete a certificate, tidy up, say goodbye and get back to your car/van ready to get in to drive to the next job, for £30.00-£40.00?

 

[Harvest Fields]

As I have said before, there are plenty of engineers out there that will snap your hand off.

 

[shyguy2005]

£60 each Cert all day long for me. No less .

 

[DGT plumbing]

Cert alone £60. Cert and service £80. boiler and hob. other appliances extra £20. I used to do service and cert work for a local letting company in 2012/13. They paid £100 a ticket regardless of appliances. I didn't have to haggle for that price, it was what they offered me. Happy days. They sold there lettings division to another not so generous agent. Good while it lasted.

 

[999]

Intresting thread 🙂
With the responsibilty of gas engineers even £60 is a low price. Putting your name on a legal document, we all should be charging way more but then theres competition thats keeps the price too low in my eyes. I charge £60 as thats what everyone else is charging.

Watched a gardener come into my clients garden today, blow away the leaves and left after 10 minutes £40 and not legal document signed......

 

[Bibbs118]

I've been charging £50 for a cert with a hob, am to cheap, it's going up to £65 in the new year .

I bet the OP thought he was onto a winner offering £30, I hope the £1000s he claims he has spent doesn't disappear down the drain.

 

[billski]

£110 for cert and boiler service for up to 2 appliances, 1 not being a fire! £25 extra for a fire. Local letting agency are happy with that and pass me plenty of work so must be about right.

 

[Bibbs118]

London?

 

[Ric2013]

I used to rent my house out. Used to pay around £60 (plus VAT, if the RGI was VAT registered) for a certificate on the boiler and cooker, more if the boiler needed cleaning. Took around 30 minutes IIRC. That, I felt, was a fair price, though to be honest I never shopped around based on price anyway and this was years ago.

Now, as a plumber myself, I won't go out for less than £45 if it's local. Tried working for less but worked out that any less than that and I may as well get a full-time National Living Wage of £7.83 job. No van, no diesel, no insurance, no NI bill at the end of the year, no spending evenings quoting, and no need to worry about anything except remembering to take my lunch in, and money in my account every single Friday.

One customer did find someone 'cheaper' than me, he thinks, but I'm pretty sure the work the other guy did was dangerous and illegal, though I only saw a photo.

Generally, I get repeat custom and recommendations, so I must be doing something right.

As someone who has made significant investment in training, tools, and time, I expect to earn over the Living Wage of £9 an hour, counting all hours and after all expenses at the very least and I'm not even gas registered.

I have plenty of sympathy for those who refuse to cut corners and put others at risk by failing to do their jobs properly just so as to give people a cheap job. Tell your clients that if they want a cheaper Landlord's certificate, they may as well write it out themselves for all it would be worth, but you get the job done properly and it costs ---.