Metres bypass help

[Dannypipe]

I don't have a bypass jig, but don't deal with many prepay meters. Yes, it is a right pain in the neck, I can see why you asked. Even if it is a no, no.

 

[REDSAW]

Also cannot believe a gsr is asking this

that's exactly the point.

this is why this private forum is here to discuss possibilities and cross knowledge by giving the best advice.

whether you have the incline to do 'what is possible' thats another matter for the individual to decide.

right or wrong is not the point! it is nothing different in a colleague asking you at work tomorrow, you would not just blank them, you would share your thoughts and concerns.

 

[Resolute]

you would think that we could all get an access account key with some credit on?
think these are registered to the addy and gas meter?

Go to any pay point, get a new card, stick it in the meter for 60 seconds (this registers it tithe meter) then you can top up credit.

If the meter displays call help or the above doesn't work then call the supplier and report an off supply and they'll come and sort it for you.

 

[lame plumber]

so how are you going to rate your boiler with no meter, just air test your pipework and go back when they have a card to commission it

 

[Nostrum]

Borrow your meter from home if you really want to commission. At least then you can say you've paid for the gas yourself.

 

[Nostrum]

Go to any pay point, get a new card, stick it in the meter for 60 seconds (this registers it tithe meter) then you can top up credit.

If the meter displays call help or the above doesn't work then call the supplier and report an off supply and they'll come and sort it for you.

Didn't know you could do this, always thought you had to get one sent in post from a supplier. I take it the existing card will no longer work?

 

[gassafe]

Okay, so after looking on British gas website it says I can ask shopkeeper for replacement card! Then put in meter for 1 minute to activate, would this work for my meter, as I don't know who the previous supplier was?

 

[Resolute]

Didn't know you could do this, always thought you had to get one sent in post from a supplier. I take it the existing card will no longer work?

The existing card will no longer work.

 

[lame plumber]

its not your problem, treat it like a new build,boiler on wall and back you go when a supplier puts in a meter and back you go to connect it and test your system. then you give them a bill

 

[gassafe]

I appreciate some guys don't like my question! But It's purely to test the boiler etc, I would not leave in place, or commission the boiler with it in place!

But, being self employed, I don't want to wait 6 weeks for the new gas suppliers next available slot to fit a working meter!

Its a bad job if guys can't ask questions on here without the fear of being shot down!

 

[Resolute]

Okay, so after looking on British gas website it says I can ask shopkeeper for replacement card! Then put in meter for 1 minute to activate, would this work for my meter, as I don't know who the previous supplier was?

http://www.ukpower.co.uk/who-supplies-my-gas-and-electricity/

Not sure if the site above will give you the supplier for pre pay but worth a try.

 

[REDSAW]

might not be a bad thing going back.
last one i had to return to commission because of no meter or gas, i charged £120

 

[dancinplumba]

that's exactly the point.

this is why this private forum is here to discuss possibilities and cross knowledge by giving the best advice.

whether you have the incline to do 'what is possible' thats another matter for the individual to decide.

right or wrong is not the point! it is nothing different in a colleague asking you at work tomorrow, you would not just blank them, you would share your thoughts and concerns.

That they don't know about bypassing meter etc when they are gsr ? Doesn't take much to be one

 

[neily01]

I wouldn't want to belittle the bloke and suggest that he doesn't realise that would be theft but he has got him self in a bit of a spot by the sounds of it.

 

[mfgs]

It's a bit harsh to jump on the guy for asking a question. I would just look at buying a meter to keep as a spare if I were you. I think BES sell them.

 

[lame plumber]

forgive me but arent these nice card meters tamper proof, ie dont go moving them around or when the custard gets their card the meter will be useless till the supplier pops out to reset it, and your name will be mud.

 

[Dannypipe]

forgive me but arent these nice card meters tamper proof, ie dont go moving them around or when the custard gets their card the meter will be useless till the supplier pops out to reset it, and your name will be mud.

Good point.

I would be a bit concerned that if my customer can't afford gas, then my bill may go unpaid! Or is this mainly HA work?

 

[tamz]

You've had some answers, right or wrong make your own decision or send the householder up to the shop for a tenner card.
If it is housing association stuff don't be stupid.
Get some arrangement made with whoever you are working for a price to cover your aborted calls because you will get plenty of that.

 

[Mike Jackson]

forgive me but arent these nice card meters tamper proof, ie dont go moving them around or when the custard gets their card the meter will be useless till the supplier pops out to reset it, and your name will be mud.

They've changed them now so that they don't trip out so easily, if at all. Too many call outs to reset them before.

 

[DirksPlumbing]

forgive me but arent these nice card meters tamper proof, ie dont go moving them around or when the custard gets their card the meter will be useless till the supplier pops out to reset it, and your name will be mud.

To my knowledge at least if these are getting used to recover a debt then they get put in a special mode where you rather would lock them. You could get yourself a bit in trouble playing about with it as you seem not to know the history and the setting of the meter.

If it is a HA the responsible agent/manager usually comes forward quickly with a solution to prevent further costs.

As for the theft thingy, once caught they usually assume you have used it since the last check/meter reading by themselves and average the usage.
It is your part to proof different then. You could try by videoing during the time of bypassing as a preventive measurement. Still would get charged as theft but the claim for the stolen gas could get reduced.
Dunno how easy Gas Safe does take that then? Worth trying?

Word of mouth can be brilliant but if your customer spreads word of this it could as well go wrong.

Add on: Not so funny episode to think about, a company in my area had installed a few months ago a new gas appliance. Now there was an accident. From rumours totally unrelated to the new installation. But. That still means that now even the new installation got checked by inspectors, any potential flaws would be reported to Gas Safe. And likely lead to increased check ups/reports.

You never know before. Cutting corners can become quite costly in the aftermath. At least this company has spent many unpaid man hours on answering questions and hunting paperwork to proof their procedures.

This is no assumption that faults have been found on the new installation. Just a hint how tricky things can be.