should i have a room thermostat with my combi boiler.

[Nostrum]

Just in case you need proof, taken from GSIUR regulations 1998

Regulation

work on a gas fitting to be carried out only by a competent person; and employers of gas fitting operatives, together with other specified persons (eg those in control of the work such as building contractors), to ensure that operatives have the required competence for the particular work being done. Employers of persons carrying out work on gas fittings/service pipework and self-employed persons doing this work are required to be a member of a class of persons approved by HSE; at the time of publication of this ACOP/guidance this means that they should be registered with the Gas Safe Register

Definitions of a gas fitting

“gas fitting” means gas pipework, valves (other than emergency controls), regulators and meters, and fittings, apparatus and appliances designed for use by consumers of gas for heating, lighting, cooking or other purposes for which gas can be used

 

[baileys]

Turn your gas supply off, switch the power off to the boiler and get a gas safe guy in to make it safe.

Ok thanks...will do.

 

[baileys]

Just in case you need proof, taken from GSIUR regulations 1998

Regulation

work on a gas fitting to be carried out only by a competent person; and employers of gas fitting operatives, together with other specified persons (eg those in control of the work such as building contractors), to ensure that operatives have the required competence for the particular work being done. Employers of persons carrying out work on gas fittings/service pipework and self-employed persons doing this work are required to be a member of a class of persons approved by HSE; at the time of publication of this ACOP/guidance this means that they should be registered with the Gas Safe Register

Definitions of a gas fitting

“gas fitting” means gas pipework, valves (other than emergency controls), regulators and meters, and fittings, apparatus and appliances designed for use by consumers of gas for heating, lighting, cooking or other purposes for which gas can be used

Thank-you for that.

 

[Ermintrude]

Feel your anguish! Hope this gets sorted . The blokes a moron and a blagger. I would just ignore the paso he's conning out with.

 

[REDSAW]

i wouldnt worry about the flue as there is some movement in these baxi's without loosing the seal.

what baffles me is...if you are not allowed to install an appliance that deems it A.R

then why has the boiler been mounted on a combustible surface, and one could say (tongue in cheek) with signs of scourching?????????????

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

Thought you could hang condensing boilers on ply????

 

[baileys]

Feel your anguish! Hope this gets sorted . The blokes a moron and a blagger. I would just ignore the paso he's conning out with.

I try to ignore him and his family but its not my personality to be able do that. I get so wound up by it. How do people not understand how dangerous it is to be doing gas work when you are not trained. I have to think of my neighbours as well, if my gas isnt save then they are not safe either and i need to make sure that they are.

 

[REDSAW]

Thought you could hang condensing boilers on ply????

if i remember right..its a question in the acs?

 

[baileys]

i wouldnt worry about the flue as there is some movement in these baxi's without loosing the seal.

what baffles me is...if you are not allowed to install an appliance that deems it A.R

then why has the boiler been mounted on a combustible surface, and one could say (tongue in cheek) with signs of scourching?????????????

Im not really understanding all you are saying, i dont know what an ar is.
What could the scorch marks be, it smells like burning but where would it be coming from.
The reason it was suspended from the wall was because the gas pipe runs down the center of the back wall

 

[baileys]

It could be where he soldered the pipes?

 

[gassafe]

Boiler on ply is no problem at all, most manufactures say this is fine.

The scorch mark is obviously from the lack of a heat mat when soldering... .

Ar is 'at risk' abbreviation for a gas appliance

 

[baileys]

Boiler on ply is no problem at all, most manufactures say this is fine.

The scorch mark is obviously from the lack of a heat mat when soldering... .

Ar is 'at risk' abbreviation for a gas appliance

Thanks for that, he didnt use a heat mat thats probably why its scorched.

 

[baileys]

Thank-you guys for listening and answering my questions tonight, no doubt i will be back here again before this saga ends:smile5:

 

[Jimbob]

Yea, if he's of a bit of a know it all like your saying, I'd be letting gas safe know of this activitys, bring him down a few pegs and show his family that he is infact wrong.

Some people do it knowing they're in the wrong just to make a cheeky buck but he just sounds plan arrogant.

He will probably only get a slap on the wrist. All of us here pay our registration and retrain every 4 years so I'm not sure why he thinks he's any better and can be excluded from that.

 

[baileys]

Yea, if he's of a bit of a know it all like your saying, I'd be letting gas safe know of this activitys, bring him down a few pegs and show his family that he is infact wrong.

Some people do it knowing they're in the wrong just to make a cheeky buck but he just sounds plan arrogant.

He will probably only get a slap on the wrist. All of us here pay our registration and retrain every 4 years so I'm not sure why he thinks he's any better and can be excluded from that.

Its my word against his though because he got the work signed off by a GSE and you are right they wouldnt do much anyway

 

[Ermintrude]

Well if a GSR signed it off gas safe will inspect and send him a notice to correct the dangerous and defective works. At his expense!!
Hopefully make the GSE think twice about signing off substandard and illegal work?

 

[baileys]

Well if a GSR signed it off gas safe will inspect and send him a notice to correct the dangerous and defective works. At his expense!!
Hopefully make the GSE think twice about signing off substandard and illegal work?

I read that you can ask for a gas inspection and if you are chosen then it could be six months before they come and check it. Ive turned my boiler off now.
Other than that i will have to make a complaint, that wont go down well with them all, i think i will be watching my back.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Have a read of

 

[baileys]

Have a read of

Thanks mike i will look at it when my son gets home, im having trouble opening the file.

Im getting a bit closer to getting things sorted. I rang a builder that i last saw about 25 years ago and told him my situation and he is putting me in touch with a GSE that he totally trusts to do his gas. His niece was killed by a faulty gas boiler, installed by an illegal fitter so he is very careful about who he has in and he was livid when i told him about mine situation.
Ive also decided to ring the GSE who connected me because its his name on the benchmark he needs to know what a mess the plumber has got him into.

 

[Aquariusplumb]

I wouldn't bother ringing the GSE as he came and connected the gas supply and should have checked everything was correct when he was there! As for the plumbers family twisting on at you, tell them to off! It's you and your family with a badly fitted boiler which could possibly kill you. I couldn't imagine why you wouldn't fit a room stat? Hard wired £10 wireless £50 both take 10 mins to wire up!!