What Combi Bolier should I have installed

[pipefitter]

I'm saying this touching wood....my worcester cdi is 6 years old & never had a problem ....also I service a lot of Worcesters & generally find them reliable & nice to work on ,
I think a lot of it is down to the install

 

[happyflyer]

I knew they were having me on Pipe

 

[pipefitter]

Yeh Worcesters are the best ......

 

[wetdrip]

I've got a Worcester still boxed, and you guys have me filling-up here:-(
Pass me a tissue...PLEASE.

 

[julesverne]

The issue I have against Worcester and vaillant is the price. Your paying for an alleged premium product and a lot of its plastic the price isn't justified they no more reliable than Baxi or ideal yet these are so much cheaper and the back up from ideal is tip top and the warranty is available to all not just the chosen few. Also you get better benefits from Baxi and ideal available to all not just the chosen few

 

[southcoastboile]

1. Vaillant
2. Worcester
3. Viesmen/remeha
anything else In my opinion is pretty rubbish, although I haven't had much dealing with the new ideals.
vaillant is a good quality boiler easy to service, everything bar the main heat exchanger can be replaced in less than an hour. Poor customer service in comparison to others. Tech adv okay.
worcester, good when they work but parts are a pain to change, reliable boiler, prone to fans failing. Good customer service and technical advice.
viesmen I have only had breakdowns a handful of times all sludge related.
remehas excellent value for money and a good boiler although fault codes way over complicated but good tech advice.
the main thing is to make sure the installer carries out a good powerflush and fits a magnetic filter with water treatment. That way whatever you go with it will last a whole lot longer.
we use a kamco machine with magnet attachment and that works really well.

 

[LPC]

Vaillant, every time.

 

[plumben]

If im honest I think that most new boilers are good boilers as long as they've been installed and serviced well, personal preference would be Worcester or valliant if it fits the budget but even valliant have gone down hill used to be all shiny parts inside now its just bog standard, however its installers preference, my boss hates ideal, but im sure theres plenty of installers who would swear by them and install nothing els, aslong as you get someone who knows what there doing, checks the system properly flushes it (dosnt have to be power flush)

 

[happyflyer]

If im honest I think that most new boilers are good boilers as long as they've been installed and serviced well, personal preference would be Worcester or valliant if it fits the budget but even valliant have gone down hill used to be all shiny parts inside now its just bog standard, however its installers preference, my boss hates ideal, but im sure theres plenty of installers who would swear by them and install nothing els, aslong as you get someone who knows what there doing, checks the system properly flushes it (dosnt have to be power flush)

I think you are spot on Plumben...😛unk: Plumber of the year 2014 :star::star::star:

 

[billy1]

Thanks for the reply the main thing I'm looking for really is reliabilty. From the replies on the forum I can see that flushing out the system is important but would you reccomend installing a magnetic filter?

 

[nysk2008]

vaillant for me

 

[Ray Stafford]

but would you reccomend installing a magnetic filter?

I wouldnt just recommend it. I would bin any installer who didn't propose to fit one, regardless of the rest of the quote.

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

So to summarise for you, there are lots of choices and reasons to go for one and not the other and the field is very mixed. But most important is the fitter. You will have hassle if a boiler is fitted incorrectly, you call on the warranty and they give you the bad news and you now have to track this plumber down, get him to believe he as done it wrong and get him to rectify all whilst you potentially have no heating or hot water.

You will find most plumbers have there own preference of boilers as they have worked with them for years and installed many others and know what they are doing. They dont want call backs so they will recommend something they feel confident in.

Avoid the low budget boilers as even if it has a warranty it is still hassle have an engineer out every so often.

Oh and magnetic filter is a defo. In line scale inhibitor is a maybe (im still cautious of the voodoo infused product range)

 

[pipefitter]

Always insist on a magnetic filter

 

[happyflyer]

I wouldnt just recommend it. I would bin any installer who didn't propose to fit one, regardless of the rest of the quote.

Ray your a :star:, old story too much money filter another 100 quid

 

[happyflyer]

Always insist on a magnetic filter

Your a :star: too Pipe, I put one on my new boiler and flushed the system but hell still crap on the filter for about 4 weeks

 

[julesverne]

I fit filters as standard on quotes. There isn't a good reason enough not to fit one.

 

[julesverne]

If your budget will allow get an ideal vogue fitted. nice piece of kit and now comes with a ten year warranty.

 

[Ermintrude]

These posts are always gas biased. I can thoroughly recommend a grant oil combi.
My favourite is a parkray

 

[happyflyer]

I think I am going to buy a Vogue and leave it in the box just in case the Worst-er packs in, it will probably be in the winter and any time
time now accordingly to one or two members. And even if it doesn't get fitted for 2 years there will still be 8 years warranty left. Kia do only 7 yrs
on their cars.