Cooker lid

[Doodlebug]

An interesting one this. Now we all know that if the gas rings stay on when the cooker lid is closed then its an ID situation. The question I have is.......
If you remove the lid, it's no longer an ID situation as the risk has been removed. So is it acceptable to remove the lid? I've already put this to a few GSR safety inspectors and I've had different opinions on it.
My opinion is, you are disabling a safety device, so how can it be acceptable.
Interested in hearing your views on this.


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[mountainman]

It would depend on you own interpretation of the purpose of the lid IMO.
I would say that the lid is a decorative feature and is not essential to the safe operation of the appliance.
It then follows that the lid interlock is only required if the lid is capable of being closed.
If the lid is removed then the safety device is no longer required so the appliance is safe to use.

 

[zeebeedee]

I'd agree with that!

 

[Doodlebug]

What's to stop someone putting a lid back on? Isn't it best to fix the safety device?


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[zeebeedee]

What's to stop someone reconnecting a dangerous boiler after you leave? Same could be said for every unsafe situation.

 

[mountainman]

What's to stop someone reconnecting a dangerous boiler after you leave? Same could be said for every unsafe situation.

Very true.

 

[Doodlebug]

What's to stop someone reconnecting a dangerous boiler after you leave? Same could be said for every unsafe situation.

The difference is, a lid can be put on by a customer or DIY person without touching the gas supply.


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[Doodlebug]

Someone show me where it's written down that its acceptable to disable a safety device. Believe it or not I sort of agree with you on this, I can't see why you can't just remove the lid but that doesn't make it right.


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[Billy Bob Bob]

Someone show me where it's written down that its acceptable to disable a safety device. Believe it or not I sort of agree with you on this, I can't see why you can't just remove the lid but that doesn't make it right.


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its the old chesnut cant override a safety device,we would be in the brown stuff very deeply if we did

 

[mountainman]

Someone show me where it's written down that its acceptable to disable a safety device. Believe it or not I sort of agree with you on this, I can't see why you can't just remove the lid but that doesn't make it right.


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How does removing the lid disable the safety device?

 

[TBServices]

How does removing the lid disable the safety device?

The lid operates the shutoff valve on a freestanding oven. No lid, no shutoff.


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[mountainman]

The lid operates the shutoff valve on a freestanding oven. No lid, no shutoff.


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No lid, no shutoff device required 😉

 

[Doodlebug]

It's a funny one this and I can see both sides of it. I just wonder what a Gas Safe inspector would say.


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[mountainman]

It's a funny one this and I can see both sides of it. I just wonder what a Gas Safe inspector would say.


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I know what I'd say as I've already said it and I consider myself as competent as any gas safe inspector.

Excuse me for a moment while I leave the forum for my latest humility treatment...

 

[Doodlebug]

I know what I'd say as I've already said it and I consider myself as competent as any gas safe inspector.

Excuse me for a moment while I leave the forum for my latest humility treatment...

Pmsl like it.


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[mountainman]

MM returns to the forum accompanied by several crates of beer and a KFC Super Bargain Bucket.
Help yourselves gang!

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[Millsy 82]

I spoke to gas safe on this. It is not to manufacturers design or specification so it is AR

 

[mountainman]

I spoke to gas safe on this. It is not to manufacturers design or specification so it is AR

At risk of what, exactly?

 

[Nostrum]

A lot of companies see this as ID, AR if you ask me.

 

[Nostrum]

oh, you mean removing the lid!

I can't see the problem in it myself. If needs be i'm sure you could butcher the hinges to stop a lid being put back on.