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Gary71
It's quite possible that the training procedure and ethos for testing gas has moved on since I served my apprenticeship, but before BG split you had a large body of engineers doing a lot of soundness tests who were safety conscious, leaving permissible drops where it met gas regs and not fearing a negative outcome.
I know of no incident now or then where a situation had occurred following a engineer leaving a permissible drop, if it had I think we'd be working to different regs.
So in the circumstances where i'v left a drop I feel happy it's safe to do so, but each to their own.
When I first started it was common place for the older gas fitters to check for leaks using a lit match, I decided not to use that procedure when a fitter I apprenticed for ended up in the living room from underneath the stairs cupboard without using any doors:wings: because he was trying to find a leak on the meter with a match(which obviously he found).
It's now quite possible with the passage of time that i'v become the old git with out dated working practises but until I end up in the living room I'll crack on.
I know of no incident now or then where a situation had occurred following a engineer leaving a permissible drop, if it had I think we'd be working to different regs.
So in the circumstances where i'v left a drop I feel happy it's safe to do so, but each to their own.
When I first started it was common place for the older gas fitters to check for leaks using a lit match, I decided not to use that procedure when a fitter I apprenticed for ended up in the living room from underneath the stairs cupboard without using any doors:wings: because he was trying to find a leak on the meter with a match(which obviously he found).
It's now quite possible with the passage of time that i'v become the old git with out dated working practises but until I end up in the living room I'll crack on.
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kirkgas
"Must verify that it's not on pipework"
Are you saying this is a change in the new document?
I've read the doc and there's nothing like that in it, permissable drop on existing system with existing appliances connected is in a table, so by definition if you are allowed a permissable drop on existing with existing appliances you don't need to confirm where it is, HOWEVER if you choose to isolate the appliances and find a drop on the pipework you cannot leave it
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Ermintrude
Yep. I'm making a u turn. Thought what I was told and what I do was inline with regs but those are the regs and I'm wrong ! Your statement is very concise and correct . I never leave anything more than 0.25mbar and a pebble dashed bowl tho as what I perceive as best practice . Also it is clear that a small leak is considered not to be a danger. From the second document .
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Reltub
Personally I'm happy to leave 2-3mb on both e6 and u6, anything more and I want to know where it's leaking. 99 times out of 100 it will either be at the meter, at the cooker bayonet or pipe work in a concrete floor without protection.
I also play the rules as I see sensible at the time, if the pipe works all outside bar a couple of feet and I check those internal sections for leaks and find nothing I feel happy to let it be. If the house is a gas pipe rats nest with old fire points everywhere and miles of pipe work ( normally older type houses) I am more wary. A bit of common sense goes a long way IMO.
I also play the rules as I see sensible at the time, if the pipe works all outside bar a couple of feet and I check those internal sections for leaks and find nothing I feel happy to let it be. If the house is a gas pipe rats nest with old fire points everywhere and miles of pipe work ( normally older type houses) I am more wary. A bit of common sense goes a long way IMO.
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REDSAW
your confusing 'new installed gas supply and appliances' with existing!
otherwise, why do you think there is not an alarm system required to be installed on all gas installations capeable of picking up any drop of say 1mb or more?
quite simple cheap and effective solution..because it is not required!
otherwise, why do you think there is not an alarm system required to be installed on all gas installations capeable of picking up any drop of say 1mb or more?
quite simple cheap and effective solution..because it is not required!
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Kyle87
It's one thing if you do that while working for a firm but If a self emp lad does it.....that would be hilarious
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