Condensate into rain water pipe...YAY or NAY??

[mutley racers]

The boss and I are installing a boiler tomorrow, and to be honest, the only place to install the condensate is into the rain water pipe. Is this allowed?

I can not see any where that says no.

Also, is there a boss for this type of thing, or do you just cut and seal with silicone?

This is my home work from the governor.

Cheers fellers

 

[mutley racers]

oh ok, i see. A hopper. I have not seen them for sale any where. Do any where else sell them? Apart from ebay? Like plumb centre, PTS or Grahams?

 

[mutley racers]

Thanks marley, I know i have seen them done like this before. And that is where i got the idea from. So, i shall give the governor our options tomorrow.

Thanks for all the replies guys. It does seem that everyone has seemed to have done this once. So, i shall have a go too.

 

[Heating-eng]

The answer to the question is No.
You are not allowed to put into rain water, I am sorry but I cannot remember the reason. British gas had to change there regs because they were told off for doing it.

 

[AWheating]

never silicone a fitting which will have condense water through it as the condense water eats through many silicone sealants.

 

[marleyco]

never silicone a fitting which will have condense water through it as the condense water eats through many silicone sealants.

I never knew that about it eating through silicone. Although if pipe was inserted into rain pipe and siliconed around pipe it would not come into contact. I do stress that this is not the appropriate means of connection and a suitable connection would be better. It's just a cheat really. You will more than likely pick up a hopper from mkm. Or a y piece fitting, then run rain water pipe to point of entry of condensate into building. You could drop 32mm into this.

 

[gaspastemania]

I read somewhere couple year ago (cant remember exactly where) that the amount of acidic water now going into sewage or ground is now a concern for contamination . So once this becomes common knowledge we will probably be terminating it into buckets !!!
I did hear couple weeks ago that worcester now are making noises of sleeving the condense pipe through walls , not seen nothing in mi's as yet tho .

 

[tommytoker]

i also remember reading something a while ago about condensate in sewers.
the theory says the acidic water from the many 1000's of boilers discharging into sewers will eventually build up and ruin the eco system in there....

 

[kay-jay]

i also remember reading something a while ago about condensate in sewers.
the theory says the acidic water from the many 1000's of boilers discharging into sewers will eventually build up and ruin the eco system in there....

i heard this too, but its mainly the utilities companies kicking up fuss because of the increased cost of treating the water.

 

[Rautospoon]

See section 2.3 and figure 5 to the attached link.
[DLMURL="http://www.centralheating.co.uk/checklists/frozen-condensate-pipes/frozen-condensate-guidance-installer#5"]HHIC » Frozen Condensate Guidance for Installer[/DLMURL]

 

[GQuigley67]

i try to avoid soakaways at all costs, they are a real pain, is it only against regs to discharge into a downpipe if its a seperate piped system ??

 

[Rautospoon]

i try to avoid soakaways at all costs, they are a real pain, is it only against regs to discharge into a downpipe if its a seperate piped system ??

See the link to Post #29.

 

[GQuigley67]

oops ..........

 

[Heating-eng]

i try to avoid soakaways at all costs, they are a real pain, is it only against regs to discharge into a downpipe if its a seperate piped system ??

yes, you are ok if it's shared.

 

[REDSAW]

and just to put a spanner into the works....

unless there is already one there and you are renewing it,

you can no longer install a hopper........

as i was told by a b.c inspector recently, its against building regs?.

 

[gaspastemania]

well lets be honest the general gist on here is that most of us have done it at some point wether aware of regs or not.

 

[Heating-eng]

and just to put a spanner into the works....

unless there is already one there and you are renewing it,

you can no longer install a hopper........

as i was told by a b.c inspector recently, its against building regs?.

Do any of us know the regs lol. They change to much.

 

[GQuigley67]

i dont see many of them done the way of figure 5 anyway, they are all run into pip horizontally with a run no insulation and siliconed

 

[gaspastemania]

I always use to terminate it into a Mcalpine tee if in the kitchen now i try use clamp1gr/wh . But like i have said i have terminated about 4/5 into downpipes this year .

 

[dontknowitall]

Do any of us know the regs lol. They change to much.

That can used to our advantage - "It was allowed when I took my last exams."

 

[Heating-eng]

That can used to our advantage - "It was allowed when I took my last exams."

I am renewing mine in about a month or so, can't wait.