External condensate pipe size

[king of pipes]

No one can say you dont explain yourself Dave ha ha . Cheers kop

 

[Welder]

No one can say you dont explain yourself Dave ha ha . Cheers kop

It's my deeply unhealthy and utterly abnormal desire to help KOP 😱🙄🙂

 

[landlordray]

Thanks for all the interest in my question.

Having considered all input, I think I will just leave things as they are ( but maybe get feedback from potential tenants as to what they think of the black condensate pipe )

cheers 🙂

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks for all the interest in my question.

Having considered all input, I think I will just leave things as they are ( but maybe get feedback from potential tenants as to what they think of the black condensate pipe )

cheers 🙂

Or don't even mention it

 

[Ric2013]

Can we please have a photo of this pipe? I'm now intrigued as to what this looks like!

 

[rpm]

The first 2ft vertically is downwards yes?

 

[rpm]

Wouldn`t mind a photo of the end of the pipe and the drain.

 

[Old Account]

You sure Ron ?

As long as you got a good fall that’s just in my opinion. I never came across a frozen 32mm KOP. I unfortunately have to also disagree on 3m in total. I really think what the mis states is external 3m in total but it could be longer for example, 2m inside, and 3 outside. That’s the way I see it.

 

[rpm]

This pipe runs almost 3 metres across the outside wall of the kitchen and then a further 2 metres round a corner to the drain.

So in this case ......................................................

 

[Old Account]

The reasons condensate freezes so readily is because in the UK we do not run our boilers in perm condensing mode. If we did it would be far less of an issue. So, running them as we do we get literal drops of condensate flowing every so often. As drops of water contain virtually zero sensible heat to give up they soon transfer it into the open atmosphere of the pipe. At 4 degs C and below they then give up their even smaller amounts of latent heat and change state to ice and we have the start of a freeze.

That’s so true, most of the people do not understand that radiators with a smart controller don’t have to b3 roasting hot to achieve the desired temperature. The boiler would the work on its own when having weather comp. and a boiler which modulates. Set the boiler to 55 flow temperature and let it run even though it runs the whole day it will still use much less fuel than getting it up to 75 and the boiler starts and stops all day long. You can put it this way, you could drive a porsche from east London to Oxford street but burning 20l or using a fiat which uses 6l but for both cars it will take the same time.

I hope you get my point. But as soon as you install a modulating boiler with a smart controller which has wether comp. and you setup the flow temperature you can be sure people will call you back very soon especially in winter time because the rads aren’t roasting.

However, that’s my point of view. Anyone who wants to disagree there are more than welcome 🙂 I love collecting disagreements🙂

 

[Ric2013]

You can put it this way, you could drive a porsche from east London to Oxford street but burning 20l or using a fiat which uses 6l but for both cars it will take the same time.

I couldn't disagree more. The Porche will only take the same take the same amount of time as the Fiat (500?) if it is stuck behind the Fiat. The 2CV will get there with 5 litres and more quickly because it can cut across fields.

Though I do agree with the bit about a modulating boiler. Can you duplicate the post so I can both agree and disagree please?

 

[Old Account]

I couldn't disagree more. The Porche will only take the same take the same amount of time as the Fiat (500?) if it is stuck behind the Fiat. The 2CV will get there with 5 litres and more quickly because it can cut across fields.

Though I do agree with the bit about a modulating boiler. Can you duplicate the post so I can both agree and disagree please?

Of course I can 🙂 however I do t get the first bit though perhaps you caould take the time to explain in a different way

 

[Ric2013]

I just felt like taking the thread further off-topic 🙂

If the Fiat and the Porche leave Oxford at the same time, the Porche will get there before the Fiat unless it gets stuck in traffic (or behind the Fiat). It is a faster car.

Only if there were a traffic jam would the Porche take as long as the Fiat. But if a Citroen 2CV then joined the race, the Citroen 2CV would win. Because it has phenomonal off-road capability, it can cut across ploughed fields carrying a basket of eggs on the back seat without any getting broken, so it could avoid the traffic jams by cutting across fields. My comment about 5 litres was incorrect. The 2CV would also need 6 litres to cover 56 miles.

On a more serious note, your analogy is imperfect. A better analogy for weather comp would be that a car run at 60mph and using slow acceleration will take a little longer to get to London than a similar car driven hard but stopped for frequent breaks but will use less fuel. Because, after all, the point about weather comp is that it improves the efficiency of the same boiler by "driving" it in a different way.

Silly though this discussion may sound, we may as well have the discussion here as we need to rehearse for when we explain to customers.