Help needed with strange looking (to me) Bath drain connector

[bennygas]

about this business of no overflow - i fitted an ideal standard bath and waste set up a couple of weeks ago which had a fandangled arrangement of pressure pipes connected to the waste outlet connection, turns out it all acts as a concealed overflow, no need for a separate one. that aint possibly what you're supposed to have on this monster is it? if so, was there something missing from the delivery?

 

[gcgold]

haha it was a bit of a job getting it up , considering the staircase has yet to be completed - but we managed. Now wondering whether to find some way of having a drain in the floor behind the bath (out of site) that tees into the bath waste pipe below the floor, will need to fit a trap on this though but shouldn't be an issue -- or have I missed something ? Anyone know where I can get a suitable small drain

 

[Hardy1]

buy a bath waste kit with overflow..instead of scratching your head and trying to figure it out(been there) lol. and mann does it do your head in!!

 

[gcgold]

Hi Hardy1 . Many thanks for the advice. Sorry for being a bit naive but how does the water get into the overflow ? Her ladyship has decreed that no holes will be drilled in her bath with the death penalty being re-introduced for any transgressions. Did you have a particular waste kit in mind ?

 

[gcgold]

Just fit it and connect it to a hepvo.

Hadnt heard of these but having done a bit of research think this is a good option - just need to sort out the overflow situation now . Do you know best (ie cheapest) place to get hepvo's - I have trade accounts with quite a few suppliers but often find t'interweb cheaper

 

[gcgold]

Hi Bennygas. Thanks for your reply. I now discover the monster is manufactured in China (even though the rep in shop told bosslady it woz coming in from Italy) so don't think it would have anything complicated. It just had that grotty looking plastic flexi pipe connected to the waste outlet. Why is it that jobs in your own house , which you dont get paid for, are always the worst and the 'customer' is never happy with the result

 

[ecowarm]

Something like this McAlpine un slotted bath waste 1.1/2 X 1.1/2"
With something like this Marley 40Mm Shallow Bath Trap Wsb4:W

 

[PlumbBobBob]

Why is it that jobs in your own house , which you dont get paid for, are always the worst and the 'customer' is never happy with the result

it's the way of the world

 

[ecowarm]

Hi Bennygas. Thanks for your reply. I now discover the monster is manufactured in China (even though the rep in shop told bosslady it woz coming in from Italy) so don't think it would have anything complicated. It just had that grotty looking plastic flexi pipe connected to the waste outlet. Why is it that jobs in your own house , which you dont get paid for, are always the worst and the 'customer' is never happy with the result

Yes the ship from china will have dropped off some carp in Italy too!

 

[gcgold]

Something like this McAlpine un slotted bath waste 1.1/2 X 1.1/2"
With something like this Marley 40Mm Shallow Bath Trap Wsb4:W

Thanks for the help. Think I have the waste side sorted with an hepvo which can connect to the click-clack waste OK ( I have tried it and its OK. Problem has now switched to the monster having no overflow. Perhaps I am being a bit dim here (something I am very good at :crazy🙂 . My fear is that her ladyship starts running the bath and then the phone rings, she is on for ages to her best friend and the bath simply overfills with catastrophic results and a massive water bill for me and probably a drought declared given the size of the bath.

 

[bennygas]

alright, just googled "bath with no overflow", found this as first result, dunno if you've seen this...Nova-Flo®: Stop overflowing baths automatically

 

[gcgold]

Looks great. Thanks a lot I really appreciate all your help. Happy Days:clap:

 

[Puddle]

alright, just googled "bath with no overflow", found this as first result, dunno if you've seen this...Nova-Flo®: Stop overflowing baths automatically

You do need an over flow with this unit,idea is water goes down over flow and cuts off water supply

 

[gcgold]

Aaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh Just looked at the installation instructions for teh Nova-Flo and it fits to the pipe coming from the Bath overflow and the monster doesnt have one. Anyone want to buy a house with a part complete loft conversion with a very heavy and nice looking bath thrown in :😵:

 

[gcgold]

Is there any reason why I cannot build a shower waste trap into the floor beside the bath in case it overflows ?

 

[bennygas]

aww that's a shame. sorry about that, get your hopes up etc, gotta be honest, I didn't read too much about the product, just saw it and thought, that sounds alright - well spotted puddle. like i said earlier though, ideal standard have a system whereby there is no overflow connection needed on some of their double ended baths - instead they have an arrangement whereby the plughole has an integrated overflow system (so if you have wall mounted taps, say, then all you see in the bath is the waste outlet, which has a posh cover over it etc). the thing that fits on the bottom of tha bath is a bit of a contraption but it seems to work quite well. I don't know whether you could get hold of one of these wastes as a separate kit, or perhaps if someone else make such a device.

 

[gcgold]

My current thinking is to fit one of these into the floor and connect into the waste pipe via a hepvo. site this adjacent to the Bath but will be out of sight . Maybe I am being a bit dim but cant see how this shouldnt work / get an adverse reaction from the BCO.

 

[JCplumb]

Any external drain would need a fair bit of seperate wastepipe before joining the waste from the bath to prevent your 8 gazillion gallons of bathwater coming up from it when emptying the bath/swimming pool 🙂

 

[JCplumb]

Thinking about it, whoever owns the house just needs telling that installing this bath without an overflow could potentially cost them many thousands to repair the property if it overflows. Also advise them that it is very doubtful that an insurance company would cover this due to the bath not having the basic safety feature of an overflow.
'Boss lady doesn't want a hole drilling' might not cut it with the insurers.
If the boss lady is also the house owner, just make it very clear to her, and get something in writing to cover your back.
You could try a shower waste but what's the guarantee that it would catch all the water?

 

[gcgold]

Any external drain would need a fair bit of seperate wastepipe before joining the waste from the bath to prevent your 8 gazillion gallons of bathwater coming up from it when emptying the bath/swimming pool 🙂

I see what you mean. Would a hepvo fitted on the external drain help in preventing the bathwater coming back up the external drain? Could probably get a metre of separate pipe before joining to the bath waste. At a push could run a separate pipe all the way to the main stack via a strap on-boss, but a bit of a job .