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my payslip says "technical lead engineer" but i spend more time doing onsite supervision than i do doing the technical spec, cad design and schematics for biomass systems.

keeps me out of trouble!!
 
I'm a plumber, can't be arsed with people's hang ups by either wanting to be an "engineer" or even worse, those who feel the need to justify that being an "engineer" is somehow special, it isn't
 
If you want to call yourself just a 'plumber' while a lot of monkeys out there with little or no experience, OR those capable but who just want to do bad work, but call themselves 'Engineers', then I think you are underselling yourself. First impressions of you from a potential customer is your job title. 'Plumber' says to me less skilled, plus possibly someone who can't do heating work.
 
easily resolved, if like me you say on the van you do heating and plumbing, service repair and installation, covers most things🙂
 
an engineer is some one with an engineering degree not a city n guilds

But, be honest, I bet you have done work for at least several people who are genuine highly qualified 'engineers', who typically will talk the talk, but are morons who can't hammer a nail in straight?
 
If you want to call yourself just a 'plumber' while a lot of monkeys out there with little or no experience, OR those capable but who just want to do bad work, but call themselves 'Engineers', then I think you are underselling yourself. First impressions of you from a potential customer is your job title. 'Plumber' says to me less skilled, plus possibly someone who can't do heating work.
That's the problem,this is what Jo public say, its the 'just' bit that's bad. I am a Plumber and Proud
 
But, be honest, I bet you have done work for at least several people who are genuine highly qualified 'engineers', who typically will talk the talk, but are morons who can't hammer a nail in straight?

more than several lol
 
I always call my self a heating engineer, I know that engineers hate it but it's just what I got called in quite a few jobs.

I do try and shy away from plumber mainly because I have worked more on heating in my career and feel this is more my specialist area, also I can't do poo! It just makes me gag every time.
 
The Humble Apprentice is my job title. I always wondered about trying to explain typical job or company's services in one title since plumber/plumbing doesnt suggest that you do gas/appliance work, gas/heating engineer suggests you dont deal with drains.. Engineer suggests a qualified person, plumber suggests a tradesperson
 
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So, if you're an engineer - you have a degree in engineering?

(I have .. )

Mechanical Engineer = Degree in Mechanical Engineering
Electrical Engineer = Degree in Electrical Engineering
Civil Engineer = Degree in Civil Engineering
Structural Engineer = Degree in Structural Engineering
....

So for Heating Engineer, that must be in thermodynamics then.

In Germany, Engineer has the same status as Dr..

Sorry guys most people that call themself an Engineer should be called a technician ...

Heating Technician, Air Conditioning Technician I go along with that.

Heating Engineer? Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

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so, if you're an engineer - you have a degree in engineering?

(i have .. )

mechanical engineer = degree in mechanical engineering
electrical engineer = degree in electrical engineering
civil engineer = degree in civil engineering
structural engineer = degree in structural engineering
....

So for heating engineer, that must be in thermodynamics then.

In germany, engineer has the same status as dr..

Sorry guys most people that call themself an engineer should be called a technician ...

Heating technician, air conditioning technician i go along with that.

Heating engineer? Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

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BIG HEAD, BET YOU CAN'T HAMMER A NAIL IN STRAIGHT, sorry seem to be shouting
🙂
Entropy:
a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.
"the second law of thermodynamics says that entropy always increases with time"

so everyone knows now 🙂🙂
 
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Heating Engineer? Doubt one in 100 knows what entropy is

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its a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.

.....Booom! How do ya like them apples!! I'm not even an engineer, just a crash bang wallop installer.
 
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So, if you're an engineer - you have a degree in engineering?

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Hi Gordon.

My old man was apprenticed as a tool maker from 14, spent 20 years learning his trade in various "engineering" workshops, and then went on to run the production facilities at Roots group, finishing his career as production manager at Hoover.

He also lectured in engineering at university, and both Roots and Hoover would fly him all over the world to troubleshoot their equipment.

However, he didn't have a degree himself.

You can tell him he isn't a real engineer if you like. The old boy is in his late 80s, but I don't have the bottle.
 
Well Gordon I do . I did a degree in chemical process engineering . It was a lot of thermodynamics, fluid dynamics and lots of maths. And some chemistry. Entropy, enthalpy Gibbs free energy...... Tensor calculus, Fourier transform infrared mass spectrometry...... .
Oh also did some PhD research on fuel cell technology . Sodium borahydride and methanol.
 
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its a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.

.....Booom! How do ya like them apples!! I'm not even an engineer, just a crash bang wallop installer.

took you long enough to google 🙂, I had heard of it, had to check though lol
 
its a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly understood as a measure of disorder.

.....Booom! How do ya like them apples!! I'm not even an engineer, just a crash bang wallop installer.
Always thought you a know it all 🙂
 
Well Gordon I do . I did a degree in chemical process engineering . It was a lot of thermodynamics, fluid dynamics and lots of maths. And some chemistry. Entropy, enthalpy Gibbs free energy...... Tensor calculus, Fourier transform infrared mass spectrometry...... .

I know what makes a cow fart! years of training and hard work to learn that 🙂
 
Syllables?
is an English sweet dish described by the Oxford English Dictionary as "A drink or dish made of milk or cream, curdled by the admixture of wine, cider, or other acid, and often sweetened and flavoured."

nice!
 
Syllables?
is an English sweet dish described by the Oxford English Dictionary as "A drink or dish made of milk or cream, curdled by the admixture of wine, cider, or other acid, and often sweetened and flavoured."

nice!


.... That's syllabub you tool. ...
 

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