Cooker lid

[Nostrum]

Why not just replace the valve, all have a big hug and go home.

 

[wards]

It controls the flow of gas to the cooker rings and It's not working, in other words when the lid is closed it's not shutting the gas off, so if you remove the lid then you have removed the risk but if someone puts the lid back on then the risk is there once more. Get it? Lol

yes the control is still working once the lid has been replaced.so the issue is what?

 

[AWheating]

yes the control is still working once the lid has been replaced.so the issue is what?

the discussion was about when a safety control fails and you remove the lid to avoid classing it as AR. If somebody refits the lid the control will still not work.

 

[stevetheplumber]

What if you made sure that the lid couldn't be refitted, ie cut off the hinges as per an earlier post? computer says no syndrome

Are we qualified, experienced, professional engineers who are capable and qualified to make judgement calls and decisions.
Or are we just trained fearful monkeys following the letter of the constantly changing manual??

now days its the latter the drones are being turned out by the queen bees at the training center computer says no syndrome

 

[Doodlebug]

yes the control is still working once the lid has been replaced.so the issue is what?

Do you really not know how a safety cut-off lid works. :0


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[Doodlebug]

now days its the latter the drones are being turned out by the queen bees at the training center computer says no syndrome

Sorry, am I in the wrong place, I thought this was a GSR forum.


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[Doodlebug]

the discussion was about when a safety control fails and you remove the lid to avoid classing it as AR. If somebody refits the lid the control will still not work.

It would actually be to avoid classing it as an ID situation.


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[tamz]

9/10 it's quicker to fix it correctly (for free if need be) than write out the paperwork. Not exactly brain surgery is it?

 

[Doodlebug]

9/10 it's quicker to fix it correctly (for free if need be) than write out the paperwork. Not exactly brain surgery is it?

I've freed a few in the past, but the scenario is, it's bust, beyond repair and the part is now obsolete. Remove the lid or not?


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[tamz]

Cap it :lol:

 

[Doodlebug]

Cap it :lol:

Tofo lol


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[AWheating]

It would actually be to avoid classing it as an ID situation.


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sorry dad 🙂

 

[wards]

oops should have read the whole thread.doh

 

[AWheating]

we have all done the same LOL me probably too offten.

 

[Mike Jackson]

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[arran197]

At the end of the day, is it worth getting in a decision with someone over it, classify it and tell them it needs repairing correctly and then leave it in their hands. IMO, it's a safety valve, it's not working, therefore it's ID. I suppose you could say removing the lid on a cooker with a valve is a bit like modifying a gas fire so the thermocouple isn't required. You can still turn it on and off, but it doesn't work as it was intended.

 

[Mike Jackson]

As far as I'm concerned the obligation is to make it safe. The cut off valve is there to shut off the gas supply to the hob should the lid be inadvertently closed whilst the burners are on. Removal of the lid makes it safe. yes the customer could potentially refit it but they can also block up ventilation that you've cleared, fit a cupboard too low over a cooker etc. As long as I've left it safe and got a signature I'm happy. I know full well that customers have blocked up vents the minute I've walked out of the door, I'm not going to worry about it, I've done my job correctly. If they want to kill themselves it's their lookout.

Also bear in mind that a lot of models are available with or without a lid anyway.