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To Oil installers:
When you put a lovely new boiler in a lovely boiler room with all your lovely wiring centres and isolator switches......PLEASE please please, put a single socket in for my hoover...


pull the L,N,E from wiring centre and just connect your hoover
 
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to fix a dripping 1/4 turn tap ...
Take out ceramic discs ..thin piece of plastic (the bit that joins rawlplugs together ) ...in back groove on discs .
It pushes discs back together in fitting when refitted.
Done this a few times for taps that are constantly dripping and not had time to replace or get proper cartridges .
ps ...is temporary 😉
 
when fitting rads under a window sill measure down from the sill for top of bracket height fix brackets pop rad in place check levels and whichever side is the high spot pop the bleed valve on . I go to quite a few complaints (not my jobs) that are rads that seem un level when infact its spot on but they look out because of the sills

Had a site agent going of nut because my radiator wasnt level...infront of customer
Let him rant for a wee bit....went out and got level. was a 1600k2x300 below a low big window.
Place level on it ...just as he was slagging ALL plumbers ( he was ex vajoiner) .
Mine level...window 25mm left to right...floor 25mm opposite way

OH how I chortled ... 😉
 
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Had a site agent going of nut because my radiator wasnt level...infront of customer
Let him rant for a wee bit....went out and got level. was a 1600k2x300 below a low big window.
Place level on it ...just as he was slagging ALL plumbers ( he was ex vajoiner) .
Mine level...window 25mm left to right...floor 25mm opposite way

OH how I chortled ... 😉

:smug2: When fitting a rad under a sloping cill and floor, make sure the rad fools the eye even though you might have to drop one end. Our work might be crack on but if has to fit in with whatever is already there. :wink5:
 
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i know that you can solder 8mm pipe inside a 10mm pipe if you havent got a coupling, but somebody told me today if you are changing rad valves on 8mm pipes and cant get 8mm valve or a 8-10 reducer, that if you solder a 8mm coupling on to the end of a pipe, that it will fit and not leak isnide a 10mm compression joint on the valve ?????
 
:smug2: When fitting a rad under a sloping cill and floor, make sure the rad fools the eye even though you might have to drop one end. Our work might be crack on but if has to fit in with whatever is already there. :wink5:
I fit my rads level. If the floor/window/house is lopsided then tough. If you want a rad fitted which isn't completely and utterly level to the millimeter then you need another plumber!
 
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I fit my rads level. If the floor/window/house is lopsided then tough. If you want a rad fitted which isn't completely and utterly level to the millimeter then you need another plumber!
Never, everything stays in uniform with me, if a sill is out a tad, my rad will be too.
 
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Never, everything stays in uniform with me, if a sill is out a tad, my rad will be too.
No No No. Can't do it, won't do it. I'm a bit OCD. I have a little boat level that I use on everything. Everything must be level and correct. But luckily I haven't ever actually encountered a situation where i've ever had to hang a radiator on the ****. But yeah, I wouldn't
 
im with whn1 on this gotta look alright from a distance...
 
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To aid adding inhibitor, leak sealer or cleaner ect Make one of these up, keep compression fitting loose as then u can keep filler upright and tighten into rad. Take blanking plug out of other side as it avoids gurgling.
Solder short end of 15mm to 22/15 end feed reducer. It fits into the neck of many screw top lemonade bottles very tightly. Cut bottom off bottle & instant funnel. Or use push fit 22/15 (If you can afford the expense) which saves soldering.
 
Little tip:

Have a system of storing your everyday tools that you repeat every single day.

I have always worked this way, but did some work with another plumber the other week, and realised he didn't do as I do.

It's all about repetition so it becomes second nature. I clip my van key with a carabiner to side as soon as I leave the van. Phone goes in pocket on left thigh. On my key ring I have a vent key, a meter key, and a washer that I can use to isolate ballafix valves in a pinch.

All my tools in the tote back go back in the exact same place every day. So does everything else in the van. So when I need something, I know where to place my hands to it straight away. How people don't work with this system is beyond me, but if you are one of these people. Adopt a system and stick to it. I do it as by nature I am a skatty forgetful person. So if I don't have a system I end up leaving tools behind, losing stuff, and generally more stressed.
 
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Little tip:

Have a system of storing your everyday tools that you repeat every single day.

I have always worked this way, but did some work with another plumber the other week, and realised he didn't do as I do.

It's all about repetition so it becomes second nature. I clip my van key with a carabiner to side as soon as I leave the van. Phone goes in pocket on left thigh. On my key ring I have a vent key, a meter key, and a washer that I can use to isolate ballafix valves in a pinch.

All my tools in the tote back go back in the exact same place every day. So does everything else in the van. So when I need something, I know where to place my hands to it straight away. How people don't work with this system is beyond me, but if you are one of these people. Adopt a system and stick to it. I do it as by nature I am a skatty forgetful person. So if I don't have a system I end up leaving tools behind, losing stuff, and generally more stressed.

my vans like that untill i work with an apprentice, then im hunting around for weeks trying to find tools that were stuffed in gaps or thrown in.. found a pair of 14" stilsons and some thread cutting fluid in my domestic servicing box once, thought it got a bit heavy.
 
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Yeah, lads are a bit good at upsetting the apple cart, but I always explain that I'm clearly a weirdo and must maintain the system. Then they know it's me being a gimp but that's how I have to work.

That said, got out my socket set today. Everything all over the place. Last person to use it? Apprentice.
 
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im with whn1 on this gotta look alright from a distance...

never fit a rad out of level unless specifically told to by customer or agent you cant argue with the bubble if they want it changed afterwards then they pay if you fit it out of level and they dont like it then you have no argument cos they will always say its your fault
 
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Yeah, lads are a bit good at upsetting the apple cart, but I always explain that I'm clearly a weirdo and must maintain the system. Then they know it's me being a gimp but that's how I have to work.

That said, got out my socket set today. Everything all over the place. Last person to use it? Apprentice.
Got two new boys, finally got them to understand clean the gear away and stack it besides the van but never load it!
 
Got two new boys, finally got them to understand clean the gear away and stack it besides the van but never load it!

Risky! I don't leave a screwdriver outside job or van. Walked outside to find cordless jigsaw level and tape on the front lawn of a house on a lovely estate... Hid it then asked lad to get me jigsaw..
 
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never fit a rad out of level unless specifically told to by customer or agent you cant argue with the bubble if they want it changed afterwards then they pay if you fit it out of level and they dont like it then you have no argument cos they will always say its your fault
i do fit them unlevel. Obviously telling the cust or whoever the reasons. a level rad under a drunk sill looks awfull and a rads part of the astheatics of a room. gotta agree to disagree bud.
 
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It is all about common sense when it comes to whether you fit a rad level or not ??

If it looks wrong then it is and as for deliberately asking to be paid extra to alter as far as I am concerned you would be flying off site very fast !
I have worked on listed buildings for 30 years and we even build extensions on the :censored: to suit the original !
One architect we worked with had us putting in floors on the :censored: ! It is actually harder to do that than get the string line out .
As with everything in the building trade it is all about knowing your trade and the clients expectations we have gone to war with an architect before as he was blatantly ignoring the clients instructions ,at the end of the day they pay our wages so I listen to them ?
 
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I always thought a reciprocating saw was over rated until I discovered LENOX blades it turned the saw into a great tool was really suprised at the difference which was what the guy at the fixings company said when he gave me one to try he said you will be back for more !
I was and it just shows you never stop learning !
 
I always thought a reciprocating saw was over rated until I discovered LENOX blades it turned the saw into a great tool was really suprised at the difference which was what the guy at the fixings company said when he gave me one to try he said you will be back for more !

I bought some of these off ebay and thought they were absolutely rubbish, they are not a patch on the Bosch blades, even the cheapo Silverline blades are better.

They left me in a right pickle when i was cutting a CWSC out, i will never use no name brands again because of it.
 
yes I have tried all othe brands and would say LENOX are the best not cheap though !
I think they are American ?
The ones from ebay must have been a copy I would think ?
 
Lenox are part of the Irwin family. Blades aren't cheap. Possibly fakes from china? Or wrong blade selection ?
 
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Heat up any coupling to red hot, drop in water to cool rapidly, clean up, place on end of same sized pipe as fitting, tap down (I use pipe former as flat), and the lip in middle will stretch out giving you a slip coupling, got me out of grief plenty
 
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The main frustration with Plumbers Mate centers round how to manipulate it. Nobody doubts it works when applied correctly but it's just properly hard to use. If you've got to return a WC to a pre-existing dodgy-looking pan connector you've not the time or inclination (or available stock) to replace, a ring of plumbers mate round the WC spigot (properly cleaned with an abrasive pad and some wipes first - oh joy) will sort it every time.

The way I've found that works is to never handle the same mm of it for more than half a second at a time. Keep it moving from finger to finger or it will stick to you. When you've got it where you want it start proding it at a million miles an hour, really quick, soft, finger moments pressing and persuading it this way and that. It starts to mould to your will rather than act like an autonomous little beggar. Bit like the wife.
 
The main frustration with Plumbers Mate centers round how to manipulate it. Nobody doubts it works when applied correctly but it's just properly hard to use. If you've got to return a WC to a pre-existing dodgy-looking pan connector you've not the time or inclination (or available stock) to replace, a ring of plumbers mate round the WC spigot (properly cleaned with an abrasive pad and some wipes first - oh joy) will sort it every time.

The way I've found that works is to never handle the same mm of it for more than half a second at a time. Keep it moving from finger to finger or it will stick to you. When you've got it where you want it start proding it at a million miles an hour, really quick, soft, finger moments pressing and persuading it this way and that. It starts to mould to your will rather than act like an autonomous little beggar. Bit like the wife.

Don't know how we got onto plumbers mate, but back when I used that, which was a long time ago I did a couple of things.

I mixed a ball from a new tub with a ball from an old tub to give a better workable consistency. If I didnt have half an old tub, I would form a ball and roll it out on a bit on newspaper to remove some of the excess oil.

Haven't used plumbers mate for years, and don't see myself using it ever again!

Plumbers Gold on the other hand. Always carry a tube in clear and white. Lovely jollop!!
 
The main frustration with Plumbers Mate centers round how to manipulate it. Nobody doubts it works when applied correctly but it's just properly hard to use. If you've got to return a WC to a pre-existing dodgy-looking pan connector you've not the time or inclination (or available stock) to replace, a ring of plumbers mate round the WC spigot (properly cleaned with an abrasive pad and some wipes first - oh joy) will sort it every time.

The way I've found that works is to never handle the same mm of it for more than half a second at a time. Keep it moving from finger to finger or it will stick to you. When you've got it where you want it start proding it at a million miles an hour, really quick, soft, finger moments pressing and persuading it this way and that. It starts to mould to your will rather than act like an autonomous little beggar. Bit like the wife.

And the best way of getting plumbers mait off your fingers is to rub another ball of mait over it and that will snowball rather than stay stuck to you
 
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Did no one ever play with putty when you were young? Fresh putty is much stickier but smells nicer.
 
Don't know how we got onto plumbers mate, but back when I used that, which was a long time ago I did a couple of things.

I mixed a ball from a new tub with a ball from an old tub to give a better workable consistency. If I didnt have half an old tub, I would form a ball and roll it out on a bit on newspaper to remove some of the excess oil.

Haven't used plumbers mate for years, and don't see myself using it ever again!

Plumbers Gold on the other hand. Always carry a tube in clear and white. Lovely jollop!!

theres no oil in plumbers mate your thinking of putty
 
theres no oil in plumbers mate your thinking of putty

There clearly is oil in it. Leave in in a warm place for 2 weeks on a tray. It will split like Beurre blanc left under hot lights. Oil makes about 15% of it. That's why u shouldn't use it to seals sleeves on gas pipes.
 
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Think you have the repair one there Tamz the standard old style is

[DLMURL]http://www.indanc.com/downloads/pdf/Evo-Stik/Plumbers_Mait.pdf[/DLMURL]

Very dangerous stuff this one LOL
i like this line best seeing as it is designed for use on waste joints
"Stop leak if possible without risk. Do not contaminate water sources or sewer. "
how does that work???
 
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one just popped to me today (im sure others will have used it plenty like as its so obvious but hey) when replacing a towel rad or standered rad upstairs and you cant find a drain off without lifting a trap or 2, find a downstairs rad has modern bleed valves you can drain straight into a large flexy tub through the bleed valve nice and easy allthough this wont allways work if all rads have been dropped from above
 
one just popped to me today (im sure others will have used it plenty like as its so obvious but hey) when replacing a towel rad or standered rad upstairs and you cant find a drain off without lifting a trap or 2, find a downstairs rad has modern bleed valves you can drain straight into a large flexy tub through the bleed valve nice and easy allthough this wont allways work if all rads have been dropped from above

That would take all day and is not the best way to achieve what you did.
 
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one just popped to me today (im sure others will have used it plenty like as its so obvious but hey) when replacing a towel rad or standered rad upstairs and you cant find a drain off without lifting a trap or 2, find a downstairs rad has modern bleed valves you can drain straight into a large flexy tub through the bleed valve nice and easy allthough this wont allways work if all rads have been dropped from above

Far better to isolate valves and remove vent plug and replace with a compression coupler with a bit of pipe on it then open valves and fill a bucket or stick hose on pipe.
 
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Keep some Vicks vapour rub in van. When your in a nice fragrant dwelling a small amount of Vicks under you nose will help u feel less dirty.
 
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When fitting push fit to chrome, i literally do one rotation of an old, blunt pipeslice around the end of the pipe about 10mm in. The grab ring will sit in this score and the push fit fitting will never come off !
 
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Never trust that the apprentice has turned draincock off on a rad before filling system, check to make sure they haven't turned it fully on!
 
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Physics doesn't even correlate to that making sense oily face, heat activated flux, acid based?

Explain if you would, thanks
 
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or just book a new one out to the next job, and give the crap ones to the apprenticce !!
 
As cold weather is here never leave any batteries in your van or the cold wont do them any good...even things like digital thermometer...inspection cameras..AA's etc. Also things like silicone in the really freezing nights should be brought it.
 
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when working in a cramped space and you can't find that screwdriver/spanner/tape you were just using, your usually sitting on it.
 
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If you've had a curry the night before and are carrying excess wind, take your hoover into work and boff into that. Dilutes the exhaust a treat.
 
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What on the soil ? Or are the houses really posh? I would say empty all your pockets and get a bucket cut down to move tools around?
 
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A good way to crawl below floorboards is get some good thick cardboard - like what comes with shower doors & boilers. Lay it down on the subfloors (which tend to be covered in rubble often) & you can just slide yourself on it very easily & it can be very comfortable & warm also.
Don't let a blow lamp near it though!
 
No on the oversite

U must strike it lucky. Normally old houses with decent voids have no over site or loads of rubbish under there or new ones har a 200mm void. No trolley will help me in an 200mm void as my middle engine is a little bigger than that!
 
Keep an old cast wheel head from a gate valve (not the pressed tin ones) in the toolbox. They fit most lock shields aswell as gate valves. Makes rad-work easy 🙂
 
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Old radiator brackets can be used to strengthen boxing or cupboards if you've pulled them apart, ugly but effective. Also they can be used to support floorboards of you've cut them a touch too short
 
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Sentinel bottles make great drip trays. And look better than Ones with aldi chicken thighs written on them
 
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If you don't know what your doing leave it alone, or if the urge is too strong, at least talk to somebody who does 1st.
 
Pair of Moles to help set up your soldering
(Please excuse the coupling, just got that length wrong and didn't have another length within reach 🙂 )
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if you have done a hole with a holesaw but its the size too small and want to make it larger, then obviously its not as simple as just drilling away because you have nowhere for the centre bit to go and holesaw will just sbin around everywhere. you can do a jig with some ply, drill thr requred size hole thru the ply then scew that ipece down to the floor or whatever over the hole you want to make larger, this will keep the holesaw in place to start drillig!
 
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if you have done a hole with a holesaw but its the size too small and want to make it larger, then obviously its not as simple as just drilling away because you have nowhere for the centre bit to go and holesaw will just sbin around everywhere. you can do a jig with some ply, drill thr requred size hole thru the ply then scew that ipece down to the floor or whatever over the hole you want to make larger, this will keep the holesaw in place to start drillig!

also a great way to start off tile drilling, tile coring or even core drilling in awkward locations.
 
if you have done a hole with a holesaw but its the size too small and want to make it larger, then obviously its not as simple as just drilling away because you have nowhere for the centre bit to go and holesaw will just sbin around everywhere. you can do a jig with some ply, drill thr requred size hole thru the ply then scew that ipece down to the floor or whatever over the hole you want to make larger, this will keep the holesaw in place to start drillig!

Good idea!
Another way to do it if the hole is too small is to have the larger hole cutter you need & screw a hole cutter (same size as tge smaller hole) inside it - which will stick out a little more & act to guide the outer cutter. Brilliant for when you need to drill larger holes in plasterboard ceilings for down lights.
 
the ones i have wont do this as i tried, also the thread is not the same size on all of the set!
 
Laminate floors are a pain but not the end of the world, after fault finding a dead and empty radiator I deduced the problem pipe work had to be under the laminate floor in the dining room. I told the customer it had to be partially removed and I would do my best to put it back properly. I found two valves under there both turned off but I'd removed more or less half the dining room floor.

I was quite suprised that I managed to get it all back in one piece and when the customer came back from work she even said " so you didn't need to take it up after all!"

As long as you put the cut pieces in a seperate pile you cant really go wrong, also you have to ideally work backwards from the way it was fitted so start with the full length cut side.

This is just normal 6mm laminate though, don't know how easy it would be with the 18mm solid/engineered wood.

But its worth knowing it can be done for those of you that didn't know!
 
Laminate floors are a pain but not the end of the world, after fault finding a dead and empty radiator I deduced the problem pipe work had to be under the laminate floor in the dining room. I told the customer it had to be partially removed and I would do my best to put it back properly. I found two valves under there both turned off but I'd removed more or less half the dining room floor.

I was quite suprised that I managed to get it all back in one piece and when the customer came back from work she even said " so you didn't need to take it up after all!"

As long as you put the cut pieces in a seperate pile you cant really go wrong, also you have to ideally work backwards from the way it was fitted so start with the full length cut side.

This is just normal 6mm laminate though, don't know how easy it would be with the 18mm solid/engineered wood.

But its worth knowing it can be done for those of you that didn't know!

Grabbing a market pen and jotting on the backs to remind you which ones belong I. A row together might not be a bad idea either.

I've found the main thing is when you put two ends together its making sure they are PERFECT or the entire joint line will have a tiny gap and look bad
 
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I keep a small piece of 9mm ply about 800mm x 400mm in the van.

I wrap it in a dust sheet and lay it across a bath when working on taps or showers. The same for a basin when changing taps and washers.


Stops you from dropping a spanner and damaging things and can slide under your toolboxes in van so doesn't take up any room.
 
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Same principal when tiling a bathroom Kyle , put your cutter on it saves you bending down all the time

I always put my cutter on top of its case, on top of my hop up.

For tiling above a bath, get a bit of old worktop/ply with a bit of nice soft carpet stuck to it.
 
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get the snazzy bosch hole saw sets with the quick release arbor.

as they wear out you can take out the quick release section off the old holesaw and put on most other brands !!
the quick functionality of the quick release with any hole saw

*looks online for new starret hole saws to fit his bosch arbor*
 
I keep a small piece of 9mm ply about 800mm x 400mm in the van.

I wrap it in a dust sheet and lay it across a bath when working on taps or showers. The same for a basin when changing taps and washers.


Stops you from dropping a spanner and damaging things and can slide under your toolboxes in van so doesn't take up any room.
this reminded me always put the plug in or pop up down when working on tapssaves taking the trap of to find the screw or nut youve dropped in the basin
 
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Haven't read all the thread so I might be repeating what someone has already posted but, I always keep a couple of spare test nipples, old rad air vents and the top off a thumb screw air vent
I once dropped a thumb screw air vent cap whilst filling (on my own) and couldn't find it anywhere, ended up tying my jumper around it while I ran back to the drain off........
Lesson learnt
 
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When removing things like monobloc taps keep backing plate/washer and on CH pump keep bleed screw. You can guarantee they will find the only hole if dropped....never to be seen again !
 
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Try to plan ahead and have a second way of getting the job finished before you even start if you get part way through the job and isn't going according to plan !
 
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