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Rickster123
Good to see you back on mate. Where you been hiding? Hope you're keeping busy.
how did the advert at the football work out for you in the end?
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Good to see you back on mate. Where you been hiding? Hope you're keeping busy.
how did the advert at the football work out for you in the end?
Plenty of good replies here. I need to sort my routine out but it's hard when I have someone telling me do this do that. Although not ideal, if I could rip everything out straight away, even though the customer might have no hot water for a night the job would be done quicker. It will all work itself out eventually.
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sheff paul
Bit of 'swagger' from some of the replies on here,the truth is no job is the same,if the job went ok,customer happy,build your confidence.Truth is there is always gonna be quicker guys than you and slower guys.I bet your don't look at the urinal next to you when taking a ****...
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erpkid
Too true Erm fortunately down here you can still get a reasonable price so can take your time occasionally and have more pride in the end result. Doing more work for landlords recently so things might change..........................
Ive just done my first boiler swap for 2 years conventional with internal flue to combi in a 3 floor town house took me 3 days had 2 problems, the bathroom rad was on the primaries luckily the bathroom is going to be my next job and it will get connected up then the house is new to the present owner and they didnt know if it worked in summer so i had already said it could be a problem
and the main which i assumed run up a duct with all the other pipework didnt and had to join it to cold feed in loft again it can be crossed lower down when i do the bathroom always nice if you can leave a dry loft
belive it or not all the pipework is plumb the grout lines in the tile were 5 mm out of plumb above the work top and the other way below
and the main which i assumed run up a duct with all the other pipework didnt and had to join it to cold feed in loft again it can be crossed lower down when i do the bathroom always nice if you can leave a dry loft
belive it or not all the pipework is plumb the grout lines in the tile were 5 mm out of plumb above the work top and the other way below
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sheff paul
Always end up working on a 'price' I hate it with a passion, I will die at work,so my missus will carry on my posts on here..
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Ermintrude
Nice work. Do u not remove all your rubbish when ur doing a job? Just noticed a big lump on return ? [emoji74]logics are nice tho!
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Rickster123
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Your not alone in that range of timescales mine often go that way. Normaly because I missed something daft at survey and end up changing a flue or condense route. All I know is when im done there is a good install in place and the customer is happy. I charge fairly but if I think I have run over because of my own inability to work faster I dont charge more I just take the hit. I am never going to be a wealthy man off the back of my company but its a living and thats all that matters to me.
That is of course the luxury of working for yourself no boss looking to eek a little more profit out of you. I prefer to earn less and live relatively stress free.
I know the timescales posted on this thread by some of our seasoned installers are pretty dam quick and I dare say they may even complete an install to a higher standard but as far as I am concerned, if you leave the customer with what you quoted for and above all else they are happy, job done.
Maybe in another 10 years I will be slinging in 6 pristine installs a week only time will tell but I doubt it I guess im just wired more tortoise than hare.
Yes.
Also it should be law for all lofts to have propper fixed crawl boatds and wired lighting and a socket if they have any plumbing in them.
And why do 50DDING diyers insist on fitting giant digital freeview aerials across the perlins in lofts or just generally in the way they always seem balanced on a nail or cable tied to something exactly where I need room to reach the other side of the loft for the f&e etc.
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lambchop
If you were a sole trader, it takes as long as it takes... You've priced it, you do the work, you're reputation is on the line and future work. In my drunk haze as everyone is now watching the recording of X factor, yes unfortunately there is no escape!
what I gather, you have a boss who obviously prices the job and has overheads and needs a profit etc or it goes pear shaped for everybody
You have to work to your bosses expect actions within a time limit, I'm not saying he/she is unreasonable, it's a business with profit in mind
im a subbie, that's my thing and there's a lot of peeps who are in command of their own destiny, sole trader, small med firms etc.
lost at my thread, fleur was on, sexy like Janet Jackson
many years ago I was a window fitter, multi million pound mansion to fit windows. The best team was sent down to fit. Great job well within time, the custard spent £50k on this.
surveyour sent down and company director on completion for hand over. Custard says 2 weeks for the job you done it in in a week, I'm not happy.
rip out all windows, same fitters, takes exactly 2 weeks to the hour, custard happy, everybody gets paid
what I gather, you have a boss who obviously prices the job and has overheads and needs a profit etc or it goes pear shaped for everybody
You have to work to your bosses expect actions within a time limit, I'm not saying he/she is unreasonable, it's a business with profit in mind
im a subbie, that's my thing and there's a lot of peeps who are in command of their own destiny, sole trader, small med firms etc.
lost at my thread, fleur was on, sexy like Janet Jackson
many years ago I was a window fitter, multi million pound mansion to fit windows. The best team was sent down to fit. Great job well within time, the custard spent £50k on this.
surveyour sent down and company director on completion for hand over. Custard says 2 weeks for the job you done it in in a week, I'm not happy.
rip out all windows, same fitters, takes exactly 2 weeks to the hour, custard happy, everybody gets paid
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tamz
I would always go for quality of work over speed and please don't anyone ever think because someone can do something quicker that you that they are better than you in any way.
I know guys who are "throwing in" 5 x 9 and 10 rad full systems a week and are rarely home after 5 but they cut every corner you can imagine and know they leave shyt work.
I know they are better than that as they worked for me in the past, they are good guys but the companies they work for push speed before anything else.
You never want to turn into that unless needs must. Btw i've done that too and know just about every shortcut and half rsed way to do most things but i choose not to these days.
Your speed will come with experience in more things than plumbing and you will make lots of mistakes while you learn.
I've been doing this a long time now. Done well into the 1000's of heating systems so i really don't need to think about anything except maybe what is for dinner that night. That saves a lot of time.
I know how every type of house, with very few exceptions, are built so know where and where not to try to put pipes.
I don't need to read MI's unless it is something i've never done before so i already know how to get a baxi or whatever to high fire without looking it up (more time saved).
These things are all experience. Thinking takes time and most things to me are now (becoming) boring routine.
I've probably made every mistake most of you can think of in the past and more and got away with it because i grew up in different times where people (customers) weren't so much up their own rses and accepted that mistakes happen.
I've been standing sweeping the water out the back door when the woman walked in the kitchen, asked if i needed wellies and told me to put the kettle on for her and make myself one when i got a minute (you wouldn't get that these days :lol🙂
I know guys who are "throwing in" 5 x 9 and 10 rad full systems a week and are rarely home after 5 but they cut every corner you can imagine and know they leave shyt work.
I know they are better than that as they worked for me in the past, they are good guys but the companies they work for push speed before anything else.
You never want to turn into that unless needs must. Btw i've done that too and know just about every shortcut and half rsed way to do most things but i choose not to these days.
Your speed will come with experience in more things than plumbing and you will make lots of mistakes while you learn.
I've been doing this a long time now. Done well into the 1000's of heating systems so i really don't need to think about anything except maybe what is for dinner that night. That saves a lot of time.
I know how every type of house, with very few exceptions, are built so know where and where not to try to put pipes.
I don't need to read MI's unless it is something i've never done before so i already know how to get a baxi or whatever to high fire without looking it up (more time saved).
These things are all experience. Thinking takes time and most things to me are now (becoming) boring routine.
I've probably made every mistake most of you can think of in the past and more and got away with it because i grew up in different times where people (customers) weren't so much up their own rses and accepted that mistakes happen.
I've been standing sweeping the water out the back door when the woman walked in the kitchen, asked if i needed wellies and told me to put the kettle on for her and make myself one when i got a minute (you wouldn't get that these days :lol🙂
that sums it up for me as well you take ten years after qualifying to be able to do it all on auto pilot but unfortunately just like life you at some point you start to go backwards(born bald and incontinent die bald and incontinent ) and it starts to get harder again i have definately passed the point of no return recently
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