HALL of SHAME PHOTo`s

[Best]

Do I see a water main down there as well best ?

Yes Shaun. Well spotted! Luckily it is a balanced flue, so heat from flue gases is going straight out - when the grass etc was removed. It is an older standard efficiency boiler, so very hot gases. That photo doesn't really show the black grass that is directly in front of flue.
The house is a bit of a bodge.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yes Shaun. Well spotted! Luckily it is a balanced flue, so heat from flue gases is going straight out - when the grass etc was removed. It is an older standard efficiency boiler, so very hot gases. That photo doesn't really show the black grass that is directly in front of flue.
The house is a bit of a bodge.

😀 least when it snows, will melt it away for you

What you going to do move the flue or new boiler ?

 

[Best]

😀 least when it snows, will melt it away for you

What you going to do move the flue or new boiler ?

I come across stupid things like that often.
The owner as I insisted, had to later dig the ground away clear of the flue pipe.
I suggested a new boiler with an unvented cylinder, rather than a combi, if they want the expense.
But it is in the countryside and work has been done for maximum profit I suspect by some farmer type. It could be a can of worms.

 

[PriestyUK]

I haven't got a photo but a guy on the firm I work for fitted a pressure relief valve thinking it was a automatic bypass...WTF I know, and his in his early 50's thinks he knows it all, there was no telling him either, another guy on the firm also piped a new radiator upside down, with the grills on the bottom. There is a photo of that one, will get my hands on it lol

 

[SmokeyJ]

Came across this Potterton profile (positive pressure case) where the case hooks had snapped off. Case held on with cable ties both sides, been like it for last 2years....

 

[1Steven]

I haven't got a photo but a guy on the firm I work for fitted a pressure relief valve thinking it was a automatic bypass...WTF I know, and his in his early 50's thinks he knows it all, there was no telling him either, another guy on the firm also piped a new radiator upside down, with the grills on the bottom. There is a photo of that one, will get my hands on it lol

Nothing wrong with 50 :dizzy2:

 

[Koogatubac]

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Couldnt miss this one 🙂

Simon, i installed that lol its not a openable door. Its a listed building which was passed by surveyors

 

[Koogatubac]

Simon, i installed that lol its not a openable door. Its a listed building which was passed by surveyors

Its within all the boundaries as stated within manufacturers instructions

 

[Koogatubac]

Its within all the boundaries as stated within manufacturers instructions

Walk inside the building, they have converted the pub to 3 flats inc a 4 storey townhouse. Joke of a job, guy who demanded boilers where they were didnt listen to a word i said but all the boilers are not affecting anywhere. It got a plume kit on because its less than 2m off the floor, should have a cage but alot of people walk past there which im afraid people could sway onto the road, i informed baxi of all my worries but they agreed if the flues were within distances of OPENINGS of building they were fine. Looks funny from the outside though [emoji23]

 

[mfgs]

haha never thought we would have a member on here posting another members work!

 

[rpm]

haha never thought we would have a member on here posting another members work!

Had to happen one day.

 

[Koogatubac]

haha never thought we would have a member on here posting another members work!

Please tell me whats wrong with it and it will be changed? It was a side entry for the old pub, they have kept the outside the same but new walls and other stuff added inside. Over 300mm from openable window, over 2m off floor. Theres nothing else to pick on is there?

 

[plumben]

Please tell me whats wrong with it and it will be changed? It was a side entry for the old pub, they have kept the outside the same but new walls and other stuff added inside. Over 300mm from openable window, over 2m off floor. Theres nothing else to pick on is there?

I can't see anything else wrong with it apart from it looks like its stuck out next to a door, which we now know is bricked up on the inside, I bet your heart dropped when you found that on here

 

[Koogatubac]

Lol i kind of knew it would of came up because i would criticise it aswell, the boilers are in silly places. One of those jobs which you end up hating and dreading getting up in the morning to go to! Sure people will report it in the future until they go inside and see that the boiler on the inside is in the kitchen and in a tall cupboard, will take a picture on the inside and post back

 

[gmartine]

Simon, i installed that lol its not a openable door. Its a listed building which was passed by surveyors

I'd pull SG up on his van, that windscreen won't pass the next MOT. 😉

 

[Rickster123]

Koogs I wondered why you've been avoiding this place! Fancy them putting a door there the thoughtless sods!:1eye:

 

[Koogatubac]

Lmfao i was wondering when my work was going to come on here [emoji23] haha ive been to the merchants few times today, been waiting to catch simong [emoji6] hope all is well!

 

[SimonG]

Lmfao i was wondering when my work was going to come on here [emoji23] haha ive been to the merchants few times today, been waiting to catch simong [emoji6] hope all is well!

Sound as a pound. Up Baldersdale today with a quick visit to Ovington later. Been waiting for your response 🙂 Picture doesn't do it justice, looks weirder in the flesh. It caught my eye the first time I saw it before it was mortared in.

Surveyor happy with the structural integrity? 🙂

 

[Koogatubac]

Haha im over scargill, off to atkinsons now though [emoji12] its caught everyones eye! After showing this to the boss hes phoned gas safe and want them to issue in paperwork that it is fine or if it isnt to what they want will change it! Well first they wanted it to go through the lintel including flue joints that wouldnt be seen! [emoji102]

 

[SimonG]

Where abouts in Scargill? Was there Thursday.

 

[AMW]

Different use for a bath trap I suppose

 

[plumben]

Might not be right but I bet it worked at first

 

[mache]

Where abouts in Scargill? Was there Thursday.

Your not going to be stalking Koogatubac trying to find more installs to post up are you...lol

 

[SimonG]

No hiding away in Caldwell for next two weeks, keeping my head down 🙂

 

[WaterTight]

Note the exposed inner rubber as it comes through the wall.

 

[Toxic Ted]

Something tells me this this wasn't a professional installation..........:cowboy:

 

[Toxic Ted]

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Note the exposed inner rubber as it comes through the wall.

That's absolutely diabolical............how could they use sand and cement on lime mortar brickwork.

 

[1Steven]

Have seen it so many times :reddevil:

 

[snoopy8888]

I am not touching that waste

 

[ShaunCorbs]

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I am not touching that waste

diy install ptfe on a flex to plastic ball valve

 

[plumben]

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Note the exposed inner rubber as it comes through the wall.

That's DIY shops for you I've seen plenty of these done like this

 

[plumben]

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I am not touching that waste

Unscrew the pan and cistern from the wall and stick some 3x2 under it then flush about 50 times

 

[jonnyswamp]

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I am not touching that waste

I see the rodents like the skirting !

 

[AlexGas]

Spot the Wally!

 

[Chalked]

Spot the Wally!

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Nice one! Just pop the meter to one side when hoovering!

 

[AlexGas]

 

[plumben]

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I think someone had a few spare anaconda's on the van, that earth bonding is terrible as well wrong place by about 2 inches

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I think someone had a few spare anaconda's on the van, that earth bonding is terrible as well wrong place by about 2 inches

thats what i dont get why does it have to before the first t like it would have any effect

 

[AlexGas]

thats what i dont get why does it have to before the first t like it would have any effect

We have to go by the book, Shaun.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

We have to go by the book, Shaun.

yea i under stand but the sparky book is as soon as it enters the property (within reason)

 

[Chalked]

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Inlet pipework looks new.

 

[AlexGas]

Inlet pipework looks new.

Yes it is new. I wasn't happy with the install.

 

[plumben]

thats what i dont get why does it have to before the first t like it would have any effect

I think it might have more to do with if someone in the future removed the branch or something

 

[AlexGas]

FYI. Had to sort it myself.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

much better

 

[plumben]

Surprised they didn't stick a smart meter in when they put the new anaconda & governor on

 

[AlexGas]

yea i under stand but the sparky book is as soon as it enters the property (within reason)

It's actually in our - gas BS books. It's something to do with the current (under fault conditions) travelling in a certain direction...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Surprised they didn't stick a smart meter in when they put the new anaconda & governor on

or at least change for a newer one

 

[1Steven]

That's another job!

 

[PriestyUK]

Got stuck in traffic today, and as you do, your eyes start to wander and look at other people's work around you when I saw this I nearly spat me coffee out! First thing I thought was #HallOfShame 😀

 

[plumben]

Got stuck in traffic today, and as you do, your eyes start to wander and look at other people's work around you when I saw this I nearly spat me coffee out! First thing I thought was #HallOfShame 😀

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Just core cut straight through the roof it'll be fine 😉

 

[PriestyUK]

I think who ever has replaced the boiler on the left thought rather than switch it to a vertical flue kit he has just thought can't be arsed with that and slid it down the same lead slate and turned a vertical flue into a horizontal flue bobs your uncle.... Guys got skills 😀 Long way up as well lol

 

[Riley]

Is that Parkstone mate

 

[PriestyUK]

Ferndown mate where the old Police station used to be, you know where I mean?

 

[Riley]

I know exactly where you mean mate

 

[Alex Knight]

Ripped this Ariston Combi out today after turning it off yesterday, no flue seal whatsoever between inner and outer flue, made my hand wet with condensation and didn't need to use the flue test point to get a analyser reading haha

 

[IND_Nick]

Went to install some kitchen taps and found this when looking for the stop tap. It has only been in a week. I left water and power off and told him to get the installer back and check his qualifications! The list of faults is quite high!

 

[Chalked]

Went to install some kitchen taps and found this when looking for the stop tap. It has only been in a week. I left water and power off and told him to get the installer back and check his qualifications! The list of faults is quite high!

Speedfit City!!
Can't see how the expansion vessel will work!
Nice joinery on the stand tho:dead:

 

[Dotty]

Speedfit City!!
Can't see how the expansion vessel will work!
Nice joinery on the stand tho:dead:

Quite glaring the EV one, innit......

 

[plumben]

Quite glaring the EV one, innit......

I'm correct in saying the EV should be after the PRV aren't I?

(I don't do unvented)

 

[Best]

I'm correct in saying the EV should be after the PRV aren't I?

(I don't do unvented)

Yea, - after the PRV, between it and the unvented unit it is supposed to be for.
Nothing is to be fitted on that pipe except perhaps a drain off.

 

[SilentMike]

I'm correct in saying the EV should be after the PRV aren't I?

(I don't do unvented)

Yes there is a check valve in the combination valve

 

[stani]

Went to classic lxff today and found the case bracket had broken off and been repaired with silicone

 

[stani]

Anyone turn them right way up please.

 

[Best]

Hope this works, -

 

[Best]

Lovely pipework and soldering. Gas heating job, what a joke!

 

[Best]

Take a look at this soldered joint I melted off. Literally holding by a solder thread and all joints seem same. Some of the pipes are also cut at a bad angle, obviously with a hacksaw. Pipes half in, barely soldered. This is original work (30 years old) on a system now converted to combi high pressure in a flat.
Really shocking "plumbers" could do such consistently useless soldering.

 

[Best]

Take a look at this soldered joint I melted off. Literally holding by a solder thread and all joints seem same. Some of the pipes are also cut at a bad angle, obviously with a hacksaw, (this one in photo is done badly with a pipe cutter) Pipes half in, barely soldered. This is original work (30 years old) on a system now converted to combi high pressure in a flat.
Really shocking "plumbers" could do such consistently useless soldering.
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Note the fitting shows bare copper never soldered also. I am removing every fitting above the floor, but it is a worrying thought that the pipes are buried in screed floors. Not a good idea to even move the pipes

 

[ShaunCorbs]

not clean enough before soldered

 

[tamz]

Take a look at this soldered joint I melted off. Literally holding by a solder thread and all joints seem same. Some of the pipes are also cut at a bad angle, obviously with a hacksaw, (this one in photo is done badly with a pipe cutter) Pipes half in, barely soldered. This is original work (30 years old) on a system now converted to combi high pressure in a flat.
Really shocking "plumbers" could do such consistently useless soldering.
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Note the fitting shows bare copper never soldered also. I am removing every fitting above the floor, but it is a worrying thought that the pipes are buried in screed floors. Not a good idea to even move the pipes

Come across that a lot on stuff fitted in the 70's and 80's. Some that are fully soldered you can snap off easily. Might be a combination of bad cleaning and the flux but it only seems to be on stuff from about a 10 year span. Saying that it is unusual to find soldered copper stuff from the 60's or earlier. It was all compression or paraffin blow lamps for lead then.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Come across that a lot on stuff fitted in the 70's and 80's. Some that are fully soldered you can snap off easily. Might be a combination of bad cleaning and the flux but it only seems to be on stuff from about a 10 year span. Saying that it is unusual to find soldered copper stuff from the 60's or earlier. It was all compression or paraffin blow lamps for lead then.

after 30 years warrentys probably void

 

[tamz]

Nearer 40 years. The guy who put it in is probably pushing up daisies 😉

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Nearer 40 years. The guy who put it in is probably pushing up daisies 😉

after 30 years its done its job,may be ****e but its held up,move on folks,nothing to see here

 

[Best]

not clean enough before soldered

Maybe, but it also can happen with lack of flux and/or blasting too much heat at the fitting.
It is a very common fault I believe in the methods plumber use to solder. I have the habit of melting off soldered joints to replace the joint and I find this with many fittings.

 

[Best]

after 30 years its done its job,may be ****e but its held up,move on folks,nothing to see here

True :smile: it has somehow by luck held until now, but my point is the joints have been very weak from first day and obviously that plumber would have one or two leaking joints frequently.
Also joints like this will crack easily if we touch a pipe to connect onto and really got to be gentle with any pipes not being replaced. You never know what way a joint is done

 

[leethegasman]

This one held for 20 years on mains cold water it fell out when I was replacing boiler luckily it was isolated and drain at the time.

 

[1Steven]

Flux joints on gas last well!

 

[plumben]

Looks like the paint is all's that was holding it

 

[Alex Knight]

Flux joints on gas last well!

Yep found a few of those underfloor

 

[ShaunCorbs]

😀

"Nice and neat inside your cupboard! No DIY kit fitted here, Outside tap done properly"

 

[Riley]

😀

"Nice and neat inside your cupboard! No DIY kit fitted here, Outside tap done properly"

I am looking at this on my phone so I wonder if I might be missing something

 

[rpm]

Chrome nut on Brass fitting.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

outside tap whats missing 😀

 

[rpm]

outside tap whats missing 😀

How are we supposed to know that from your photograph?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

How are we supposed to know that from your photograph?

""Nice and neat inside your cupboard! No DIY kit fitted here, Outside tap done properly""

if you read above it 😀

 

[brum]

Gate valve on Mains no double check valve although there may be a dble check valve on incoming mains and check valve in bib tap...brum

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Gate valve on Mains no double check valve although there may be a dble check valve on incoming mains and check valve in bib tap...brum

check valve in bib tape not allowed unless existing install
needs check valve after iso valve to tap as you could contaminate your water supply
your right on gate valve tho

 

[brum]

Always under impression that check valve in tap with dble check above main stop tap is adequate...this is how we are doing new builds in Scotland and never any issues with building control,Scottish Water or NHBC.....am I missing something...brum

 

[AlexGas]

What can I say...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Always under impression that check valve in tap with dble check above main stop tap is adequate...this is how we are doing new builds in Scotland and never any issues with building control,Scottish Water or NHBC.....am I missing something...brum

might be different for scotland tho but https://www.southernwater.co.uk/Media/Default/PDFs/WaterSupplyRegs.pdf

 

[brum]

Now that's worth more debate than a dodgy outside tap glad I'm not the window cleaner lol

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Spotted this today what's missing 😀

 

[mutley racers]

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Spotted this today what's missing 😀

Clips

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Clips

Good lad I can move it up and down about 4 inches 😀 only just been serviced lol

 

[mutley racers]

Good lad I can move it up and down about 4 inches 😀 only just been serviced lol

Frightening that. Some people hey. Why do they even bother

 

[Best]

I know it is not plumbing, but I was asked to remove an old light fitting (all in one unit that you wire directly to) and replace with a standard pendant. Wires were crammed together just past ceiling level. As you can see, some idiot years ago must have used the brass connector blocks from the original ceiling rose. Obviously decided to just ignore the earth wires also. Lethal for electrocution or fire risk.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

I know it is not plumbing, but I was asked to remove an old light fitting (all in one unit that you wire directly to) and replace with a standard pendant. Wires were crammed together just past ceiling level. As you can see, some idiot years ago must have used the brass connector blocks from the original ceiling rose. Obviously decided to just ignore the earth wires also. Lethal for electrocution or fire risk.
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Bloody hell,thats Lethal

 

[Best]

Bloody hell,thats Lethal

Yes, scary! That was today and in a rental flat and by the aged look of the plastic light fitting, a good 20 years old probably. I don't even like using the plastic terminal blocks to wire to, unless they are enclosed in a electrical wiring box. So easy to touch bare parts of the live cables.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Yes, scary! That was today and in a rental flat and by the aged look of the plastic light fitting, a good 20 years old probably. I don't even like using the plastic terminal blocks to wire to, unless they are enclosed in a electrical wiring box. So easy to touch bare parts of the live cables.

imagine those touching if no RCD or MCB,S would have exploded

 

[Best]

imagine those touching if no RCD or MCB,S would have exploded

Those cables in the photo were pushed fully up into the ceiling void, with little more than from the brass connectors showing.
Funny you mention an RCD, - the flat was built in the 80s and coincidently I had to replace the electric shower about 3 years ago in lower flat also owned by landlady. There was only a cartridge fused consumer unit in each flat - no safety devices whatsoever. I insisted on bringing an electrician to fit a shower RCD, but the guy very wisely said he would fit an RCD for supplying everything. Got him to also fit one on upper flat that happens to have had that light wiring mess.